Diet Recovery 2: Restoring Mind and Metabolism from Dieting, Weight Loss, Exercise, and Healthy Food

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It’s here, it’s queer, get used to it.  99 cents on Amazon HERE until 11:59pm eastern time U.S. on Friday 2/15.  Then $9.99.  As always, it’s included in the 180 Platinum Collection, which will include audio versions of this book (read by yours truly) and Eat for Heat by the end of the month.

It’s also included in the brand-spankin’ new Metabolism Bundle.

Read it, review it, eat the food and don’t spew it.

No really, the reviews are a big help and I anticipate this one rocketing up to #1 in all of diets and weight loss on Amazon this week.  If you want some hungry, cold, barely-fertile, food-obsessed dieter out there to hear the basic message of this book and 180DegreeHealth, your chance to reach them is in a heartfelt review.

Plus, it will just be fun to see this thing sitting atop all the other weight loss crap currently for sale on the planet, if only for a brief moment.  It’s not likely to happen without some great reviews.  Even just a couple sentences is a big help.

Let all your dieting friends know about the 99-cent window of opportunity too.  This one is really meant for your average person, with no obscure internet health nerd references.  100% butyric acid and Kitavan-free.  Enjoy everyone!  BUY ON AMAZON

PS- No Kindle required. Free Cloud Reader here.

So far so good… Screenshot from 11:24pm eastern time 2/13/2013

Excerpt…

 “It’s extremely hard to figure out whether or not something is good or bad for you based on purely intellectual reasoning.  Think coffee is bad for you?  Well, there is a lot of good information about coffee being healthy.  There is a lot of information and justification for it being unhealthy.  I’ve been studying health and nutrition intensely for a decade, and you know what, I’m not sure if coffee is healthy or not.  Or sugar.  Or alcohol.  Or chocolate.  Or grains.  Or legumes.  Or meat.  Or probiotics.  Or vegetables.  Or fruit.  Or dairy.

I used to be able to give a definitive answer on each one of those things, but now I can’t. I simply know too much to be sure, as there are numerous justifications for or against each one of the things I just listed.  If you are sure about one of the above-listed things, that’s because you’ve ingested one set of information and haven’t investigated the other side of the story.  If you had, you would be equally as unsure as I am.

And even with things that we can all intellectually agree is unhealthy, such as a meal at McDonald’s, there will be literally thousands of people that read this book who are freezing cold, or haven’t slept through the night in years, or who are suffering from anxiety, yada yada.  And most of those health-conscious people wouldn’t DARE eat at McDonald’s.  But, to their surprise, they might find almost immediate relief from their health condition(s) if they were to go pig out on 2-3 double Cheeseburgers, an apple pie or two, and an ice cold Coke from none other than the infamous Mickey D’s.  Why?  Because the calorie-density, digestibility, and salt and sugar-heavy load of a McDonald’s meal is unparalleled.  And for someone in a really low metabolic state, this can literally be the most therapeutic of all combinations.  You might heal faster eating at McDonald’s than trying to do it on organic, unrefined, wholesome, and nutritious food because such food is not as calorie-dense, has a higher water content, has more fiber, and is just too damn filling and unexciting to foster the same level of calorie consumption.

So the unknowns about what is and isn’t healthy for an individual at any given moment are so vast that they are beyond our ability to neatly file into categories of “good” and “bad.”

I am quite serious about all this.  I love the shocking but I’m truly not saying this for shock value.  It would be easier to be liked and for this book to be well-received by continuing to re-affirm your beliefs about what is and isn’t healthy, because when someone says something is healthy that you think isn’t, you react with serious objection.  And in this case, that objection is directed towards me.  But my goal is not to be liked.  My goal here is to provide accurate, truthful, and unbiased information based on my wealth of study and experience.  Most of you reading this don’t need to hear what is and isn’t healthy based on macronutrient breakdowns, nutrient density, ratio of polysaccharides to monosaccharides, and fiber type and quantity.  You need to move on from this overly analytical way of thinking.  For health reasons.”

235 Comments

  1. First,
    now I’m going to buy the book on Amazon.
    Lucia

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  2. got the book, reading it now.

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    • lol i was totally kidding about putting my astrology sign

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  3. At these prices I’m not even waiting for my Lifetime Membership PDF. Psyched to read this tonight.

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  4. I read the book yesterday (I couldn’t wait), and absolutely loved it. I want to write a review, however the only problem is that I’m not too good with words. My review would probably only be something along the lines of: “AWESOME, BUT IT NOW! NOOOOWWW!”. Ya.

    Keep it up, Matt. While I may not buy your next book (I will try to focus on other aspects of life), you will always have a special place in my heart for being that guy that cured me from the hell that is dieting (strong homo). Thank you.

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  5. I’m used to buying your books the old way. I get a link sent to me and I can read it as a pdf document. I don’t have a kindle. I’m guessing there still is a way to purchase and read the e-book without a kindle. Any help for the technically challenged would be appreciated.

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    • No need for a Kindle- you can read it free through the Amazon Cloud Reader here:
      https://read.amazon.com/

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      • Great, thanks!

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  6. Reading it now!

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  7. I would love to buy this however I am only registered with amazon.co.uk (I also bought Eat for Heat there)

    Any way for me to buy this book?

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      • Cheers! Bought.

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    • Sorry, stupid me, just found it on amazon.co.uk :)

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      • No worries- enjoy!

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    • i just brought it from the uk store for £1.02 – bargain thanx Matt! :o

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  8. So- when speaking of diet recovery, does this include advice that will help our bodies recover? I’ve screwed my set point point up so badly through dieting its ridiculous and not healthy. I’ve started fixing my metabolism, I can eat whatever whenever and stay where I am…. Now what? If the book helps me repair the rest of what’s wrong with my health (mostly caused by diets) without resorting to another asinine diet, I’m all in!

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    • That is very much the focus of the book. Helping people see the recovery process through after the wringer of one diet and then the next.

      From the description page:
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      With the help of Diet Recovery 2, you should not only be able to overcome your diet obsession and eat normally again, but you can also confidently expect to:

      – Raise your body temperature significantly – most returning to the normal 98.6 degrees F or above in just a few weeks

      – Become “fat proof,” more or less incapable of gaining body fat eating whatever you want, in the quantity you desire, with or without exercise

      – See major health improvements in areas that were being impaired by the metabolism-suppressing effect of restricted diets

      – Learn how to make small changes in your diet to function properly in the main competencies of physical function – such as digestion, metabolism, sex drive and function, sleep, mood, dental health, and other primary places

      – Completely eliminate all strong cravings for any and every food 100% in just a matter of weeks

      – Eradicate binge eating, emotional eating, and other behaviors only seen when a person is consciously interfering with his or her food intake

      – Receive simple guidance to get the benefits of exercise you’ve never been able to get, with just a fraction of the time and effort that you put into it in the past

      – Actually see big improvements in how your body looks (more muscle, less fat, better proportions) a year or two down the road from having fully completed the diet recovery process
      ———–

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      • Thanks for the response! I’ve read many of your other books and I have noticed a change in your thinking as I move along. I’ll be checking out this one!

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      • Rob, can you clarify what a healthy body temperature is orally? What is the range for waking? It seems that the conversation has shifted a little from basal body temperature from the armpit to afternoon oral temperatures and I want to make sure I understand what a healthy range is.

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        • The book answered my questions. Almost through it. Currently drinking a soda for the third time this year and will have eat a fast food hamburger for the first time ever one of these days.

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  9. Bought! THANK YOU :)

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  10. I bought this. Now Matt Stone will be my slave? Clean my house? Wash my dishes? Be forever indebted to me? Matt, I hope you look pretty in a French maid outfit…

    Best $0.99 I ever did spend.

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    • Yes of course. And I look great in a maid outfit. Got a sweet Brazilian booty.

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        • That site is sweet. Reminds me of a video I watched last night. All I heard while watching was “4 big macs, 4 orders of fries, 4 apple pies, and 2 milkshakes every day for lunch for 20 years makes you a badass.” http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x5xXsdWRaFw

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          • Dude, that guy’s awesome. Roll up into a competition like Larry Bird-‘ “Which one of you mofos are coming in second?” Haha

            And yeah- don’t know how I found that Eat Big site, but I dig it.

          • Yep- enviable name, for sure.

          • I wonder what he eats now? He looks awesome for his age, discounting the fact that he had open heart surgery and is on 10 medications.

          • Damn, that dude is an impressive testament to the fact that calories are greater than steroids. Too bad about his McD induced heart condition, though.

          • Everyone assumes burgers. It could have been fries. It could have been his training. It could have been alpha male syndrome. Or living in the ghetto. Or heredity. Any number of things. I get pissed when burgers automatically get the blame. What about the vegetarian eating 1500 calories per day and jogging who has the exact same condition at the exact same age?

          • Easy there, burger-man. :-)

            I would actually “assume” the fries were the real culprit in the McD equation, due to the PUFAs. If he had stuck to burgers, pies and milkshakes, and just a single serving of fries, maybe he would haven’t had any problem.

            Or maybe being 300 pounds and lifting like a maniac, pushing beyond the body’s limits day in and day out is just bad for the heart.

            Or maybe it was “Alpha male living in the ghetto with a genetic heart problem syndrome” like you said.

          • Dam that 1990 change over from beef tallow.

          • I wish they would have just offered a choice. Like you can either order the tallow fries or the veg oil fries. Most people, upon taste would have probably stuck with tallow.

          • Why is everyone so positive about McD? Maybe the burgers taste great over there,but here it tastes like nothing if it’s not drenched with lots of HFCS-sauces

        • LBEB is cool. Perfect antidote to the paleo / starvation model of “fitness”

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        • Saw that site a while ago,they however seem mostly Paleoish as in eating lots of meat/proteine exclusively,from pics I saw

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      • Dude. Pics or it didn’t happen…

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  11. I purchased th book but cannot download it.
    Is there a link to get it?

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    • Reyaz- did you buy it on Amazon? If so, it’d be available under your account, and you can view it through either a Kindle or the free Cloud Reader: https://read.amazon.com/

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      • Yes, I purchased it on Amazon. I now see it in my Kindle Library on Amazon.
        I wasn’t aware that i could not download and print this ebook. i don’t own a Kindle, and my browser (IE9) cannot use the Cloud Reader.

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  12. hi matt ….every link just offers kindle version which i dont want
    please advise//thanks
    robbie UK

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    • Hi Robbie,

      The promo price is for the Amazon edition. You don’t need a Kindle to view it, though- the free Cloud Reader mentioned above works.

      The PDF edition is available on the site for the normal price, or as part of the Metabolism Bundle or the Platinum Collection. Cheers

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      • Ah,damnit! Matt wouldnt you be willing to do the same offer for the pdf?as i have all your other books too and sadly DR1 didnt give me the courage i need. this one sounds interesting,id really like to have it.

        on another subject,today was the first time i spoke with a PT/nutrition guy working out at the gym who preferred carbs over highproteine to bu8lt/maintain muscle.

        and im also shamelesly gonna ask,if there are some wealthy kindhearted peeps here,wh9 are willing to ‘sponsor’ me/’the-help-Dutchie-to-consultate-billy craig fund’

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  13. Thanks for making it available at a reduced price for your regulars, Matt. I’m reading it right now and will be sure to leave a review. (Likely glowing, but I gotta read it first to be sure…) Cheers!

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  14. Why does it say $3.74 on amazon ?

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    • Where do you see that Karl?

      It’s coming up as 99c for me. Are you on a non-US Amazon site? Could it be a currency conversion thing?

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    • Karl, do you have a non-US IP address? I’m thinking that’s what’s giving you the extra VAT. It did on mine too, but not on the US computer.

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  15. It doesn’t seem to be available on Amazon uk ??

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      • I clicked on this link to see about the VAT and all, but all it says is ‘pricing not available’.

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        • Any luck? It comes up as 1.02 GBP for me.

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  16. Thank you for writing it, I have been anxiously waiting for this to come out! Thank you also for the great introductory price! I will repay you with a heartfelt review!!

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  17. Loving the cover! I’ve got me some intense cupcake desire now, THANK you very much.

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  18. Back a few months ago when I was contemplating buying the diet recovery e-book, but knew a revised edition was in the works, we were told that previous buyers would get the upgraded ebook free. That’s why I spent the $20 for it.

    Now it has a new title, and apparently I can get a discounted cloud version which is great. However I prefer the pdf version so I can print parts of it if I want, which can’t be done on the cloud reader. And it’s going to cost me $1.08 or so, if I buy it in the next 2 days. I probably will get it for that price, just to check it out when I can.

    However, I’m feeling pretty misled by the assurances back in September or whenever it was about a free upgrade to a revised version.

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    • Cia-marie,

      Sent you an email.

      Just to be clear, though the name is DR 2, this is not the update that was planned several months ago. This is an entirely new 40,000+ word book. The topic is similar, but the content is different. We toyed with different names, but decided on DR2 since the term diet recovery applies best.

      This isn’t designed to mislead or gouge- the scope of the project changed since the initial idea was floated.

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      • K, thanks Rob. Got the email. Just because I may be a little dense about this, is there going to be a revision to the previous DR? Or is this basically a replacement for that? Hope to have read the DR 2 within a week or so, maybe less. Depends how fast I can get other work done!

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        • There is no other revision planned. The revision idea morphed and became this new book.

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  19. Yeah, mine is coming up at 3.74 as well. It’s also what I paid for Eat for Heat, but then I thought it had gone up a little in price. It isn’t Friday yet this time, so something’s up. I’m on Amazon.com and my address is a US address on there. I’m using a Swedish computer, maybe that affects it. It does say the price includes VAT and international kindle delivery. VAT sounds British to me, and I’ve ordered from the UK site before. I’m gonna check to see what I get on our US computer.

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    • Odd- I’ve heard Amazon, like airline web sites, sometimes will adjust the price if you look frequently before you buy. Instigate a little buyer’s fervor by making them think the price is going up.

      Try a different browser and/or private browsing to see if that works.

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      • I tried a different computer. See below.

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      • Oh, and thanks! I always suspected that, but wasn’t sure if it was true. I’ll be using Thor or whatever it is for those purchases I guess!

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    • Yup, what I thought. It won’t matter what address is on your Amazon account I guess, as long as your computer’s IP address is foreign. I’m not savvy enough to change it, so I’ll just order from the other computer!

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  20. Bought it and will read as soon as possible.

    Hope there are details in it about how I can use herbal colonics to cure Sexually Transmitted Lyme Disease. What can I say? My girlfriend and I broke up, and Bambi was there for me.

    Let me tell you people. Don’t make the same mistake I did. This isn’t fun.

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  21. A couple of weeks ago, I decided that instead of telling my 83 year old dad he should eat less sugar, more saturated fat, fewer grains, drink more water etc because that’s what I’d just read we are supposed to do, it dawned on me he’s the loveliest, happiest, friendliest, warmest, healthiest person I know. I started trying to figure out why (what does he eat/know that I don’t etc.and that lead me to your site). Then I just ead Diet Recovery 2. My dad is Adrenal Man!!!!

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    • awesome story Jude! I have been able to recognize the people in my life who have are metabolic superheros after learning so much here… and none of them have weight issues. How is your dad’ weight/how has it been throughout his life?

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      • Hi kr
        His weight has been constant and pretty right for his height – he’s a solid bloke, not thin, but I wouldn’t say overweight and of course, he’s never been on a diet! A school friend saw him after about 25 years & said he honestly looks as well as he did when we were at school.

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  22. Reading it now and absolutely LOVING IT

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  23. Will this help you LOSE weight?! I need to lose 80-100 pounds. Definitely can NOT stay at this weight!

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    • I would think weight loss would be the inevitable result of following the book’s guidelines to completion, which involves getting very strong and fit and sort of choosing cleaner foods by default after getting to the point of neutrality with food in general.

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      • By ‘clean’ do you mean like home-cooked sorts of foods? Because that’s what I’m craving now that a lot of junk foods just sound gross.

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  24. Reading it now. Good intro!

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  25. Amazon took 3,74 dollars from me. I guess because I live in Sweden? Strange that I have to pay more just for that!! But anyways…It´s really cheap nevertheless so I´m good I guess. :-) BUT!! I can´t download it to read it in my phone?? I have to sit by the effing computer????? THAT I´m not fine with! Is there a way to get it from “Cloud Kindle” to my phone? I´m super-allergic to my computer, I can´t sit by it for more than a couple of minutes before I turn all red and itchy. (And no, it´s NOT because I have kinky stuff on my computer. ;-) )

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    • Hey Cammi: Kindle has free reading apps for smartphones. Check ‘em out here: http://amzn.to/pcqiAJ

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      • Rob = Installed it and the book was automatically there!! :-D So happy and eternally grateful to you!!! Thanks!!

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        • Awesome!

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  26. Just bought it! I think I am pretty recovered at this point, but wanted to support and hopefully share with some people I know who do need it. I’ll try to put up a review, too.

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    • And by the way, to share a personal story on the beauty of “eat for heat”, my temp dropped big time this past week after a really stressful time and missing a few nights of sleep. After hanging in the low 97s for a few days, 2 days ago it fell to 96.8, yikes!! The last 2 days I really focused on food, sleep, and had ice cream twice (it was just a little even, a scoop each time) and today I was back at 97.7 and hopefully still rising back up!

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  27. Excited you used the cover photo I suggested!! Off to read it and eat some cupcakes.

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  28. I’ve been lurking here and reading about RBTI too. After doing the whole 30, two years of moderate carb paleo, and trying to find a safe healthy eating sweet spot (hint fasting til 2pm ain’t it) I’m hoping this book will give me some insight on how to continue my n1 experiment. I hope this book is more helpful for women’s health issues than most of the advice from the other gurus. I believe that there is a key that will open up a full recovery for me. Still gotta heal those adrenals… I’m not necessarily ready to give up eating real food for MacDonalds, yet but it should be fun to try swinging back the other way with carbs. Homemade, vanilla ice cream anyone? Will review asap! Thanks

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  29. Read some more. I was just having a few nagging questions about Intuitive Eating and what I’ve read (I skipped around) has put my mind to rest that IE is the way to go and I’m not a crazy knuckle head.

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  30. I’m not computer savvy, but getting the feeling that I can’t buy this if I am using a public computer, as I can’t download cloud at the library?

    Please lettuce no…

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    • One way or another, if anyone is having trouble Rob will take care of you – either sending you a pdf or advising you on how to read it via Cloud Reader or similar applications.

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    • Jagrati,

      You can buy it on any computer and it will be associated with your Amazon account. Then you can access it at any computer by logging in to Amazon, and using the web-based cloud reader, no download required.

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      • Rob,

        Can I purchase this from Amazon and then have you e-mail me the pdf version. I don’t have a kindle, nor do I want to download cloud. I like having it on my pc like I was able to for DR and EFH. If so, then I’ll go ahead and make the purchase and then e-mail you to let you know. If not, I understand. Thanks.

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        • Hey Emma,

          That’s fine- just go ahead and place the Amazon order and then email me.

          Cheers,
          Rob

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          • Great, Rob. Thanks! I just bought the book but realized that I don’t know your e-mail address, so I’m just letting you know here that I bought it. I’m assuming you have my e-mail address per my comment information. You can e-mail me the pdf version at that e-mail address. Thanks.

  31. what! Canadians can’t buy this book! :( please make available before sale ends :(

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    • oh wait, nevermind, I think I got it…

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      • Jenny, I am in Canada and I can’t seem to figure it out. What worked for you?

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          • Yeah, I found DR2 on amazon.ca but it seems that the cloud reader is linked up with the US store, and I don’t have a Kindle. (Totally not computer saavy either.)

          • Andrea,

            Go ahead and place the Amazon order, and email me and we’ll make it work for you.

            Cheers,
            Rob

          • Rob,

            Thanks for your help. When I try to check out through Amazon, the site will not allow it because I don’t have a Kindle or reading app.

            What is your email by the way?

          • Rob at 180degreehealth dot com (converted to standard email format)

            I’m not sure why it wouldn’t allow you to check out. Is it on. Smartphone? If so, try on a computer. Long as you have an Amazon account, that should be all you need. I definitely bought eBooks before I had a Kindle. Email if you need to.

  32. So I’ve read all of your books Matt and I totally get what you’re saying. I’ve been there done that just like you. I’ve been an avid dieter and seeker of the perfect diet since I was 12 years old. Have been working out and training like a mad man since then too. Hit the wall 8 years ago after following super low carb paleo type diet and gained 75 lbs within 6 months of eating a “normal diet” Pure adrenal burnout. Haven’t been able to get back to “normal” since. If I look at carbs I gain fat weight. So, I tried the HED for 4 weeks and I felt TONS better. However, my body fat started going up very fast. After gaining a quick 15 lbs I’m struggling with continuing to eat so much. What has been your experience with people gaining body fat quickly when following this. Do you see the body fat gain tapering off and then dropping. I certainly don’t want to gain 75 lbs again.

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    • Woo Hoo!! Just bought the book and read it. Thanks Matt, DR2 answered some questions I had after recently reading DR1 and Eat For Heat :)

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  33. Well guys, this is the end of 180 degree health and the beginning of 360 degree health.

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  34. I’m sooo excited, I really hope it gets to people who need to hear its message (though, sadly enough, they might also be the ones who filter it out. But let’s be optimistic)

    Anyway, I just came here to say that the sales page is GENIUS and it makes me want to buy it even though I’ve already done that.

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  35. Great book, Matt!

    I would love to translate it to German – so more people over here could read it ( definitely necessary :-) !

    Matt attacks Europe, I like that.

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    • Lars, I’ll go out on a limb here and say, that’s awesome- go for it! Email me rob at 180 degree health dot com and let me know what you’d need from us to make it happen.

      Cheers, dude

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  36. Thanks for this Matt. Another great addition to the 180 collection – Much better now via amazon, cloud reader is super easy for anyone to use and with most people wanting to read on a kindle or iPad this makes things even easier. duck fiets and spread the word, big congrats on getting to no.1 on amazon!

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  37. Not sure if this is the appropriate forum, but I have a question. I get the refeeding bit. I have about half the markers for low metabolism. I have horrible acid reflux right now and even drinking a bit of water can upset it. I’ve quit coffee for the time being, but I’m not sure how to heal my metabolism when sugar causes the acid in my throat feeling. Not to mention that I get funny tongue…I’m not sure if it’s yeast but it’s whitish. Anyway, sugar seems to make things worse. How can I work through this? I had a donut and croissant this morning and I’m definitely warm, but the acid feeling in my throat is pretty annoying, never mind that it’s probably causing some acid erosion.

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    • Hi Jill,

      When you say you are eating sugar, in what form is it. Is it HFCS, Honey, white cane sugar etc? Even though Matt has relaxed about having sugar over the past year or so, I’m sure he would still favor eating starches, so it may not be necessary to eat sugar. I’m not speaking fo Matt, I hope you understand. I think if the starches are bring up your temps, then maybe you can start having sugars after you have achieved a stable high temp (98.6 F or higher) and see how that affects you. Personally, I find starch and salt being more helpful for bringing up my temps than sugar, but I’m not having any negative reactions from sugar either. Just my 2 cents :)

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      • Thanks for the reply. I will think on that.

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    • Whenever I get acid reflux I have noticed that upping my salt intake helps it considerably.

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      • Upping salt and decreasing water, solved all heartburn, acid reflux issues with me too.

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    • I have to keep my oral temp above 97.8 or else I have gerd symptoms. I can even predict it based on my morning temperature. It took a few weeks of being above that temperature to get to that point though. So yeah, you are at the right forum.

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      • I didn’t take my temperature back during those many years of chronic reflux, but I gaurantee you it would have been equally consistent for me too. Kept trying and trying to find the right diet or combination of foods to keep from having it. Turns out the answer was to not diet and combine all of them together! What’s interesting is that doing lots of hiking is what made it the worst, and also what lowered my body temperature the most. I wish I could go back in time and track my temperature during all the really extreme things I did, as I hit 96.2 while hiking and eating everything in sight. I can only imagine how low it went when I was restricting calories and eating low fat with zero sugar and hiking 10 or more miles per day.

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        • Thanks. I’ve taken my temps several times now and they’ve really been fine…at least 98.2 (AM), but some higher. I’m wondering if I really have metabolism issues. When my temp got to 99.1 (an hour or so after eating pizza and gelato) the other day I felt almost feverish, hot eyes and whatnot.
          Anyway, I think overeating may really what be is causing the GERD. That and I had thought I could do coffee, and I think it’s a bit much maybe until I get to a better state. Oh yes, and chocolate. Anyway, I think I need to take a break from overanalyzing and really just start focusing on the intuitive stuff. Besides, who here wants me to list anymore garbage??? Seeing as my temps are really pretty good, I feel no need to overindulge and that should help the reflux.
          And Matt, thank you so much for some no-nonsense realistic workout ideas. I am so happy to know that even if I can’t do 3 or 4 days a week I can still be accomplishing good health. This thrills me!

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          • With good temps all day I managed to get reflux with the coffee(decaf) chocolate combo. That’s definitely it. I figure I’ll just lay low on those for a bit. Ice cream and other things are fine.
            Sorry if this is all boring or insignificant….just wanted to share.

  38. What do you think about coconut flour??

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  39. World love to get it but according to the Amazon UK store I can’t due to copyright restrictions, because I’m in Sweden :(

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  40. Just finished the book this morning and left you a 5-star review, Matt. Seriously good work on the book. You deserve it.

    AND, you’ve inspired me to get my ass in gear and move around more, because that’s the key ingredient I’ve been missing the past months and it’s making me feel like a slug. :-P

    Good thing I’m leaving my job in a month; it eats up all my time and I never get to go outside when I’m feeling frisky, then when I go home all I feel like doing is sitting on my ass to recover from a long-ass day doing mind-numbing shit. Not a good combo.

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    • Also, I should note that I really like the direction you’re going with your exercise recommendations; it makes a TON of sense and the idea of ramping up intensity rather than duration for conditioning purposes is perfect. I can’t stand running distance but even I can go for 5 minutes!

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    • I can relate. I want to get back in to lifting as well, but the only times of the day I would be available to are also the times when I’m the hungriest (early in the morning, at lunchtime, or after I get home in the evening). Eating enough takes priority over lifting for me now.
      In my case though, my job is engaging and involves a lot of mental stress, which I think burns up many more calories than people realize.

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  41. Ok. Bought another copy of the updated version. Look forward to reading this weekend.

    Cheers!

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  42. I can has cheezeburger!!!

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  43. Hi Matt,

    Working my way through the books (got the Plat) and all the stuff you are saying to totally making sense… seen a lot of it happen to me on low carb.

    BUT I have also had most symptoms caused on SAD so what shoould a person in that situation do to heal?

    I developed migraines (w/ aura, ERs think u r having a stroke) after starving myself to lose weight. Then I gave up and ate whatever (ate out most meals) and literally more than doubled my body weight. Lost hair, etc, and periods stopped and migraines reduced. Did migraine diet (reduced foods with additives otherwise not restrictive) and periods returned with no weight loss. Eventually removed an allergen and lost weight easily but then switched to low carb, lost 70lbs and all hormonal issues got way worse. Migraines were rare until 18 months on GAPS and they returned with a vengeance! (GAPS helped some things long term but screwed up others and we were trying to keep the carbs up as much as possible.)

    I know u recommend eating whatever (many SAD foods) for a time but I had most of my issues arise on SAD (could it have been the PUFAs?). You mention people with these problems were healthy before restrictive diets sooooo….. Am I getting this wrong? What should I do?

    Thanks, D

    BTW thanks for the new (free) book!!! Totally worth the Plat price!!

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    • Would to hear some qualified thoughts on this matter too, since many people I talk to say they started getting sick on the SAD diet. My hunch is that they were doing other things ‘wrong’ such as getting too little sleep, being stressed out, skipping meals, eating at fast food restaurants for a prolonged time, and with that drop in metabolism they discovered that certain foods ‘hurt’ them and then got on the health food trend. Which only made them sicker. This is sort of what happened to me, although I never had perfect health as a kid.

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  44. OK. I actually read this book.

    And I have one comment and one question.

    First of all, really well written, well to the point, and quick read.

    Topless photos, a nice bonus. I think to be fair, you should have included one for the ladies, Matt. But that woman’s progress is impressive. She is definitely sexier in the after pic and that bucketloads comment was titillating, to say the least…

    My question is, who’s phone number is that really? I haven’t tried calling it yet.

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    • It’s the Rick Roll number.

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      • Haha. Busted. I figured Thomas would have been the first to actually dial it.

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        • “Sorry” to ruin the “surprise” there, Matty-o. :D

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  45. As I read these comments, I’m eating two Big Macs (on sale $1.99 in U.S.) thinking to myself, 6 months ago I would never have considered McD’s for lunch even with the sale price. Thank you Matt for freeing me from my dietary prison!!! :) Now if only I can lose the weight..ha!!

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  46. Book was absolutely superve!

    Reading the exercise section it made me think of one thing, however..

    Whenever I do exercise or aerobics I feel myself start to get hot and my arm breaks out in a ton of small, red itchy bumps. It spreads to my chest area and even my legs, and I find myself having to constantly itch everywhere and stop the exercise. What could be causing this??

    Could it perhaps be metabolism-related at all? :O

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    • Hi, I have the same reaction. When you exercise hystamines are released and some people are sensitive to them and they get itchy skin. This happens to me when I run or walk after a period of inactivity. You should try taking anti histamine non drowsy an hour before you exercise. I find with a few days of consistency and taking the antihistamine I am okay. Lots of people have this reaction, google it. Hope it helps

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      • P.S don’t itch, no matter what, it makes it much worse.

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  47. Matt,

    I bought the book and, am looking forward to reading it tomorrow. :)

    I have to baby sit the grand-kids today. :) Thanks to you I have the energy
    to do that now!!!

    Happy Valentine’s Day

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  48. I’m eagerly waiting for my PDF to be printed,bc I want to read it badly and can’t read ebooks on computer.

    Anyway,don’t know if it’s also being covered in the book,regarding resetting metabolism,thyroid,digestive function etc. as gluten/wheat is usually one of the big thyroid offenders named.
    So,today I had a talk with a baker and he mentioned something about Italian wheat being different,containing ‘better gluten’ whatever that may mean….
    Anyway I looked it up and it said that the flour from soft wheat grano tedero(?) contains less gluten in relation to the harder Durum wheat grano duro(?)
    I also found an article stating that the fibrous grain (wholewheat?) would contain less gluten. Don’t know about lectins,phytic acid and such…

    Anyway,is there anyone who has experience with Italian wheat or speltflour(in general),and actually noticed a positive difference?
    Also does someone know if its possible to soak flour instead of the entire grain?and if so,how to do it?

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  49. Hey I thought I get a free one?

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    • Chey,

      If you have the Platinum Collection, you should have gotten an email- check your spam folder.

      Initially, the idea was a modest revision to the original, and we would have sent the updated edition to all original DR purchasers. But it turned into an entirely new 40,000+ word book, and is being offered separately.

      But only 99c through tomorrow night at Amazon!

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  50. Hi Matt, your work has been so valuable to me by helping me get my head in the right place and deal with lingering issues (EBV) exacerbated by low carb paleo obsession and resulting sluggish metabolism. I am 6’4″ and went from 185 to 175 and am looking to regain the muscle mass eventually but need to rebuild my energy reserves first as my adrenals are weak and by body stressed from my hypometabolic state. I have one question, should I be worried about the extended blood sugar spikes/inflammation while perpetually stuffing my face with breyers natural ice cream/rice krispies/pop tarts/mcdoubles/pizza etc? . I am shooting for 4255 cal to regain my strength. I probably consumed over 200g of sugar today and my blood sugar peaked at 194 and took about 4 hours to return to normal after my lunch feast. Is this to be expected as I condition my system and I should stick it out? Or is this unusual? MY temp is rarely above 98 during the day and after refeeding. Thanks for all the hard work that you do and going against the grain of modern dietary lunatics, a much needed breath of fresh air!

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  51. I AM SO PSYCHED OUT OF MY MIND!!!

    This book couldn’t have come at a better time. I’ve been playing with (and failing at) raw/vegan foods for about 6 months, not doing very well and giving into to binges every once in a while, but avoiding meat for the most part. I was just about to delve into full blown raw veganism and this has saved me for a second time.

    I have a question for any and all 180-ers, and I would REALLY appreciate any advice. About a year ago, I recovered from a couple years of VCL/0 Carb Paleo diet and massive calorie restriction. I RRARFED, and I admit that I didn’t follow any guidelines or count calories but I ate a good amount of junk foods and processed foods, curing my orthorexia. But over those several months of eating, though my temps went up and I gained weight on my already chubby frame, NONE of my symptoms went away. Still had chronic fatigue, crippling hormonal problems, pain/9 month pregnant bloating after eating most everything (less pain w/ processed foods), and chronic constipation. I’ve had these symptoms since childhood/the onset of puberty.

    I plan on doing about a week of free eating, since I’ve been restricting food again, but my temps are already pretty high (98-99 rectally, throughout the day), so I don’t know why my symptoms were never alleviated. Does anyone have any sort of basic suggestion of what I should do here? There’s a reason why I turned to raw/veganism about 6 months ago, because I was fed up w/ feeling tired, sick, and overweight, with these symptoms weighing me down everyday.

    I have complete faith in my heart that this is what will save my life, but am wondering if there is anyone else that faced difficulties even after RRARFING, and why this would happen?

    Thank you! And THANK YOU, Matt, for such an awesome book. It is everything I could hope for and MORE :)!

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    • PS – celebrated the read yesterday w/ a rare steak, sauteed mushrooms and onions, and a caesar salad, complete w/ croutons, parm, and my favorite caesar dressing from 180 degree kitchen. My first sit down meal of meat in weeks (months?), my first cooked veggies in weeks.

      DID NOT go down well, hahaha as expected, but it was DELICIOUS!

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  52. I’ve never been able to stand McDonald’s, not since the 1980s. I could eat maybe one apple pie and only because it’s sweet tasting. If they fried the fries in coconut oil and put real sugar back in the Coke I’d think about it.

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  53. Going to pimp this out on my facebook and blog tomorrow. Love your work Matt. You’ve change my health and my son with autism…

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  54. I am so not technologically savvy. I downloaded kindle for pc, bought the book and started reading. Now I’ve come back to my pc I don’t know how to get back into the book! I go to amazon, go to my kindle library and I can see the title of the book their in my library but I can’t click on it!! I really do not like technology!! Can you help?? Also, can you buy this book in hard copy? Sorry if this has been asked, can’t wait to read it.

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    • Hey Nik,

      No hard copies currently available. The book should be linked to your Amazon account, so log in and click on ‘Manage Your Kindle,’ then you’ll see a list of any books you’ve purchased. On the right hand side, there’s a button that says ‘Actions’- click on it and it and choose the option ‘Read Now.’

      Email me if you’re still having trouble: rob at 180degreehealth dot com (convert to standard email format)

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    • In your browser, navigate to read.amazon.com. That should have your whole Kindle library in it for you to browse and read directly.

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    • Check your desktop.

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  55. Wow, I loved this book, especially the emphasis of not making health a religion, and to focus on more meaningful things in life other than the next meal we are going to eat. I have followed your blog since 2011, and my life is so different today. Four years ago I was anorexic, and I physically suffered from hair loss, acne, weak muscle tone, no periods, and I mentally was going crazy thinking about food and health all day. Today I feel so much more vibrant. My body looks healthy but what is best is how happy my mind is to be occupied with meaningful things that actually matter in life. Anyway the other day I saw this video of two incredible singers yesterday, and it struck me how important it is to really focus on the inner self rather than our appearances like you said: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZsNlcr4frs4 I am so happy Jonathon is able to focus his life on his amazing singing talent, and I hope he never loses his humble and sweet personality. It is time to live not die(t).

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  56. Thank you, Matt!

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  57. I bought the book and look forward to reading it.

    I am starting to think that good health may be incompatible with our “ideal” body size, at least for a lot of us women. I’ve been trying to tell myself, hey, you’ve had two kids, you can just look like a mom now.

    Am I the only one who prefers the taste of HFCS, rather than sugar, in coke?

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    • I think I prefer it, too :-)

      I think it’s very possible to have an ideal size as in looking trim and toned, but probably not Hollywood ideal as in model thin (for most people).

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      • Well of course it is possible for some, like yourself. But for most of us? I’m not so sure. Going by most of the anecdotes here, most people seem to funtion best at well over the weight they “want” to be.

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    • HFCS/high-fructose is really my nemesis as it highly addicting,causes me to overeat/no satiety sense anymore while giving me a ‘blissful feeling at the moment of eating’ yet very quickly turnsaround towards anxiety,depression,digestive issues and major cravings.

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  58. Hi

    I just bought and read your book. I can testify (to a much lesser degree) that hyper-eating anything and everything restores female hormones. I’ve never done it full-fledge. I follow a program that recommends hyper-eating (3K+) until you gain 3-5 lbs, and then use a low carb/1200 calorie diet until your weight goes back to what it was when you started hyper eating-usually takes 2-3 days. You’re supposed to keep repeating this until your metabolism starts to raise. I don’t notice my metabolism raising (still takes 2-3 days of 1200 low carb to get the weight off), but eating this way is a million times better than I’ve eaten the last 20 years of starvation. My hormones are repairing and I’m sleeping well. If I did your plan my husband would be very upset because I for sure would gain 10+ pounds. I’m not sure many married women or women with bf’s who are more visually orientated could emotionally handle their wives gaining 15 pounds. I will for do your total program if I’m ever a widow. Wish I would have known all this when I started dieting at age 16 for the very reasons you stated in your book-Vanity and feeling great when I was underweight.

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    • Wow, that sounds like a binge-and-starve cycle, but if your body feels like it’s healing on it, I guess why not.

      I do agree, my boyfriend would probably freak out if I gained a ton of weight. Maybe some men would be happy though if their wives are underweight. I started getting a lot more interest from men when I gained weight (but I started from quite underweight). It would be really great if someone figured out a way to heal without weight gain but I don’t know if it’s possible.

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    • wow I am so glad my husband only cares about boobs. He doesn’t care how big anything else gets as long as those keep getting bigger lol.

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    • If I were with a man who took offense to my 10+ lb weight gain, especially while I’m trying to heal my body… deal broken, son.

      I guess I forget that men like that exist. I guess I’m spoiled. When I told my boyfriend that I was going to try Matt’s program and that I would probably end up gaining weight, he just gave me a hug and assured me that he thought I was beautiful no matter what I weighed, and that he was happy as long as I was happy & healthy.

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      • I guess I’ve only ever been attracted to masculine men-seems they all care about appearance (I know some like boobs or butts, but generally like thin women. I think it is just our culture here.).
        I sense men see it as you liking food more than you care about them, when you gain a lot of weight. They have a right to expect that you act the same and look generally the same (except normal aging). I guess I don’t fault my husband, because I would be bummed if he didn’t treat me like he did when we were dating and frankly, spend money like he did when we were dating. I think it is just basic respect for the marriage contract and the situation you present when you are dating-otherwise it is a bait and switch. No way as a woman I could handle gaining 15 pounds to gorge daily.
        I thought the book was interesting, but not practical for most women. There are less extreme ways was the point of my post. GIven that I’ve basically eaten 1300 calories my whole adult life, adding two weekly refeeds is awesome.

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        • Well, I am kind of interested to hear all the men chime in here on this one with their opinions!

          Would you mind if your girlfriend/partner/wife gained 10,20 , 30 plus pounds??
          Is 10 pds ok, and 30 not??

          How would you really feel?

          Men??

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          • If it increases breast and buttock size, sex drive, mood – and eliminated dieting and paranoia no heterosexual male would ever say no to even weight gain of 30 or more pounds. And like I posted on Facebook today of a short and lean woman who weighs over 160… 160 is the new 108.

          • I think all of those improvements are right on, but I hear your concerns Celia. Some dudes will freak out, and even if they’re supportive, they may lose some attraction, despite their best intentions.

            Think about it like this: if your dude had a high status career that drew you to him (doctor, lawyer, athlete, whatever), and the stress of it gets to him, and he eventually leaves to pursue something that will make him happier, you probably would intellectually support him. That’s great dear- I want you to be happy, not stressed out, enjoy your life, etc. But maybe he’s lost some economic security, as time goes on, and the success in his new venture isn’t panning out. You may lose attraction to him, even if your rational mind doesn’t want to, wants to instead be supportive.

            I think it’s like that for guys. The attraction triggers tend to be hard-wired, even if they no longer mean what they may once have meant (health and fertility). Even if the economic climate primes the pump for the failure of many, just as the cultural climate primes the pump for fat gain, not everyone can rationally override those triggers and attraction may wane.

            That said, as Matt alludes to, attractiveness can take many forms. Improved mood and sex drive are huge for dudes, along with all that favorable recomposition. A lady who’s pleasant and hot to trot and excited to jump your bones will easily edge out the cover model who’s a harpy and doles out duty sex once every few weeks.

            And if you can muster the courage and see the recovery process run its course to the end, you end up with the best of all worlds- a healthy, vibrant, sexy lady with an easygoing disposition.

            In that quote about the adrenal type in DR2, my favorite section is this:

            “A member of the adrenal-type group has a phlegmatic disposition – easygoing, jolly, slow to anger, never bothered with insomnia, fear or “cold feet.” He will often go out of his way to avoid a quarrel. Customarily, he has a wide circle of friends because he is warm-hearted and surrounded by an ‘aura’ of kindly sympathy.”
            —-

            I can’t tell you how attractive that is, in both friendship and romance.

          • Thanks Matt and Rob for male perspectives.

            A good long honest thoughtful answer Rob.

          • I appreciate you hearing my point of view. I can tell you are very well fed as you gave very fair and logical answers. Maybe because my dad was overly concerned with appearance (a professional athlete/football coach), I have always felt more comfortable with men who were the same way.
            I am encouraged-I am going to try to up my calories and refeeds. Starvation for sure effect my moods and sex drive. After having two babies-I had to start refeeding as I was on a tight nerve all the time. Now-it is probably time to step it up a notch.

          • Good luck, Celia. It may be scary, but I’m confident that the path of perpetual (and increasing) restriction is a dead end.

            My only advice to you is: remember to go easy on yourself. That chapter on redefining perfectionism is a good one, and applies both to your goals and the process. If you freak out and fast for a day to ‘atone,’ for any presumed overindulgence, be easy on yourself for that too, and just let yourself find your way back to why you’re leaving that restrictive pattern behind. Hang in there- there’s life at the other side.

          • I think it depends on the husband. Matt, you described me exactly. I’ve improved in ALL those areas that you mentioned. In regards to visual physical changes, I’m most happy about my butt as it is now more round instead of flat-ish and I have definition from butt to thigh, whereas before my butt just seemed to run into my thighs with no real distinct change from one point to the next. I mentioned to my husband how I was happy with how my butt looks now and he agreed and said he liked that my breasts are larger as well. I’m thinking to myself, WOW, this conversation is going better than I thought. I wasn’t sure how he was feeling about the changes in my body (I’ve gained 30-35 lbs. so far). THEN, just as I was feeling good that he liked the changes as well, he said, “But, I do like it when you’re smaller better.” So, although, he likes the improvements in those particular areas, he still likes it better when I’m smaller overall. And, this coming from a man who is not demanding of me in that way, loves me no matter what, and is supportive of me working on improving my metabolism. I just hope that as I lose weight the physical improvements I’ve made don’t leave as well.

        • My “masculine” man likes my increased libido, boobs and butt way more than my food neuroses, limitations, and anxieties. 15 lbs? I’ve gained more, and we are both very happy. Like Ana said above about her boyfriend, he loves me no matter what. And make no mistake, I look good, despite your pre-conceptions about women’s size and shape.

          Marriage contract? “Rights” to expect we look the same? This strikes me as being really shallow and, frankly, sexist. I would hate to think what would happen to your relationship if you became ill, or had an accident that left you with an injury, or gained more than 10 lbs in order to heal your body. If you can do it on less, good for you. But ladies, not all men think like Celia’s!

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          • I hate to say it, I know my husband thinks overweight=overeating=gluttony. Most men I know think that way too.

            All of us with varying eating disorders know this is just not true. I’m fairly certain he would feel differently if it were out of my control-cancer, ect. But I do bare the responsibility here, because I did this to myself through 2 decades of under-eating/over-exercising

            If a person has never dieted and ruined their metabolism, they do not understand (he is 6’3/175lbs and can eat anything and everything with no weight gain, He is walking example of someone with a healthy metabolism.

            Don’t want to cap on my husband because he is otherwise a terrific husband, just really visually minded. Vi-va la diferance.

          • P.S. Marriage is a contract via the state and with God.
            I’m talking about respect when I refer to rights.
            I respect my husband’s desire for an attractive wife who looks the same as when we were dating. It is about respect, sadly lacking in today’s culture.

      • You are probably cooking more, yes?
        My husband has seen me gain weight trying to lose the first 5 to 10 pounds that he thought was too fat for me way back when we were first married. With that came less and less inclination to cook meals for him, me, family. Women who are afraid to eat, generally don’t cook either.
        Thirty-five years later, fat wife who doesn’t cook. I’ll finish Matt’s book and I’ll bet I cook more. It will be fun again.

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  59. the “rethinking perfectionism” chapter is beyond my ability to describe. bless you.

    i’ve had the feeling for a while that if i couldn’t increase my energy level high enough to be more physically active and tackle the mold/yeast in my system, cancer would be inevitable. your methods are probably saving my life.

    since i started eating an entire box of mac & cheese (made with butter and half & half) before bed and in the morning, i’ve seen an immediate improvement in my ability to wake up on time for work before the alarm clock, despite going to bed late and getting only about five hours sleep. this has been a lifelong problem.

    but after a few days, my already bad mold/yeast symptoms became unbearable, with rapid fat gain. mixing in a tablespoon of fossil shell flour before adding the cheese powder (so the texture didn’t get sandy) took care of those symptoms, and i started losing fat instead of gaining. i’ve tried fossil shell flour in melted ice cream, but mac & cheese seems to be a more effective bait. probiotic powder designed for infants has also helped a lot.

    on the go, i love two-packs of walker’s shortbread with cheese sticks. kikkoman packets and saltstick capsules have also been handy.

    when i first increased my salt intake after reading “eat for heat,” something strange left my body that i later identified as a lyme colony at lymephotos.com. their theory on salt is interesting:
    http://www.lymephotos.com/theory/index.html

    also, taking activated charcoal capsules and using soap with activated charcoal as an ingredient have helped a lot with the toxic overload that usually accompanies fat loss for me, especially exercise-induced.

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    • Hi Gilded,

      I’m just curious…what is Fossil Shell flour? Where do you get it from?

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      • hi jonO:

        it’s also called “food grade diatomaceous earth,” and you can get it at amazon. the “food grade” bit is extremely important.

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        • Ooo, I’ve thought about taking diatomaceous earth before. The general consensus on the Internet seems to be that the pros outweigh the cons. Actually, there don’t appear to be many cons. I just wonder if something so abrasive can be good for you long term? Have you been taking it for a while?

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          • i don’t believe it’s abrasive enough to be dangerous internally, since it’s already added to flour to keep pests away. it’s not good to breathe the dust though.

            about two years ago, i started mixing it into my cats’ dry food to keep the ants away. i soon started using it myself when ice cream or other sweets gave me a bad mold/yeast reaction. but i wouldn’t always remember to use it. when i do, my hair is noticeably thicker and grows faster.

          • I have been taking diatomacious earth internally for over a year, no worries.
            Have also used it effectively with lice (in the hair) and scabies (may you never get it!!)

          • That’s brilliant, using it for lice! My daughter had it a few years ago – had it manually removed at a lice parlor. What was your method of application and how long did it take?

          • I have used in in a few ways;

            Make a liquid paste of DE, melted coconut oil, and essential oil of clove,
            (roughly about 1 – 2 T DE, 2 T coconut oil, 3/4 tsp clove)
            comb it through the hair- leave it over night.
            (put a towel on the Pillow).
            In the morning- dead lice! And you can wash it out.
            It probably only takes a couple of hrs to work really though- and the clove oil may make it work even quicker.

            The clove oil has a unique chemical called Eugenol, which melts the plastic-like covering on parasite eggs- and supposedly kills them;
            which is why I have used it for scabies and lice, because it is important to kill the eggs not just the livies!

            I also just pat a bit of DE around the hair and comb it through ( I have blondy hair so it doesnt really show- will show with dark hair).

            And I also put DE in some water in the basin ( a couple of T),
            and keep on rinsing it through my hair , then dry the hair as normal. There will be a thin film of DE throughout the hair this way.

            Basically any way you can get the DE in the hair that suits you!

            DE will kill live lice but not eggs. So if using DE only, you will need to repeat treatment a few times as eggs hatch etc.
            From memory I think DE takes about 2 hrs to do its job on small creatures.

          • I have also mixed a teaspoon of clove oil, and some teatree oil with 3 egg yolks and combed that through my hair,
            and wrapped it in gladwrap (saran wrap?),
            and left it for an hour and washed it out.
            (To get rid of lice)..

            I also read on the net of one woman who had had many foster children and many lice-
            her way she discovered was the best was putting some clove oi (she didnt say how much- a glob?) in some cheap conditioner,
            leaving it in the hair for a few minutes, then combing it all out.-
            She said the lice all came out dead!

            I just dont do the combing thing much- just work on kiling them! And then look through the hair to check they are dead and eggs are not hatching etc..
            My son has little tolerance for a long combing session.

          • Wow, very interesting, thanks for taking the time to write it out. I thought DE worked when it was dry, didn’t realize it would work when wet, too.

            At the lice parlor they just coated the hair thickly in conditioner, and used a little baking soda for traction, and would use a lice comb to scour each little section of hair. Tedious.

            If the girls ever get lice again I’ll try DE.

          • Hi Nola

            Where do you buy your DE in NZ and also, how much do you take internally? Cheers.

          • I take 1-2 T daily, first thing in the morning- mixed in a cup of water.

            I bought it through this site:
            http://www.allcreatures.homestead.com/
            it was most economical in a 20 kg sack, then I shared it with my friends.
            But they sell it in smaller amounts too.

            My friend got hers here:
            “The last bag I got via Trade Me, it was
            from this place:
            http://www.denz.co.nz/ $195 for 22kg free freight.. “

          • Thanks Nola. I have ordered a kilo from the denz place.

            Cheers
            Steph

    • @Gilded , sometimes but rarely I have these weird white slimy looking things in my stool too…which I figured is probably yeast/molds/parasites coming out. Usually when this happens I feel highly anxious/OCD-Thougths/depressed/sometimes mental hunger for all kinds of crap rigth before I go to the bathroom and be able to poop. Do you have something similar too?

      Back in my more Lyme-digging-days,I came across a protocol called the Salt/Vitamin C protocol, so I guess there’s probably some real truth to that Salt article

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      • dutchie, i can relate to all of that and worse.

        that article is from a site advocating the salt/vitamin c protocol. i didn’t take vitamin c though. just got a lot more salt in my diet.

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        • Gilded,do you also find when heating up from all the salt you get very antsy/nervous usually right before I’m able to do a #2? I wonder if that’s bc the critters/bad gut flora are being attacked/pushed out of the gut?

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          • even without bad critters, too much salt can make ya nervous and have to go. i’m not as extreme with the salt anymore, and now i’m trying to focus on housing good critters so they can do the fighting. as a preemie who probably missed out on some good bugs, maxi baby dophilus is doing wonders for me, including my moods.

  60. Sorry-I made a couple typos there-Meant to say that many husbands would not appreciate their wives gaining so much weight to heal. My husband would be angry actually. I don’t think he is that different than most masculine guys. I will do your program 100% if I’m ever a widow. In the meantime-I’m hoping my program will eventually raise my metabolism a bit.

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    • My boyfriend watched me diet intensely at one point and saw that it was not a good thing!
      He was happy for me to gain weight to be in a better state of health/functioning.
      And he is a man who does not like fat women.
      But I think if a man really loves you, he will be more interesting in your wellbeing than an external image.

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  61. “I used to be able to give a definitive answer on each one of those things, but now I can’t. I simply know too much to be sure, as there are numerous justifications for or against each one of the things I just listed. If you are sure about one of the above-listed things, that’s because you’ve ingested one set of information and haven’t investigated the other side of the story. If you had, you would be equally as unsure as I am.”

    There’s a nice quote by Robert Anton Wilson: “Certainty is for people who only own one dictionary.” He has similar notions about lots of things. I recommend it.
    Here’s a movie on his thinking:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m4SNFo5mdms

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  62. Hey Matt! I had a quick question, if you’ve time to answer it.

    Do your views on digestion still jive with what you wrote in your 180 Degree Digestion Ebook?

    I’ve been eatin’ the food for over a month and have seen tons of improvements. The only thing that has been whacky is my digestion. At first my BM’s were glorious, but then they gradually became less frequent, and now I’m tending towards constipation. Namely, I’m wondering if you still think the fruit and vegetable “cleanse” is a good way to get things moving again?

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    • Add some gelatin and raw carrots daily to help your gut. I get my gelatin in my morning coffee and have the raw carrots then, too.

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      • Thanks so much Ann :) I’ve been meaning to add more gelatin to my diet anywho. I’ll give it a shot.

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  63. It looks like I missed out on the deal even before it was supposed to be over. boo!

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    • Ah Rob! That son of a…

      He will happily send you the pdf for it when he sees this.

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      • Hey WInnie- Amazon changed the price before I intended. My apologies. Sent you an email.

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  64. Hey I was just going to buy the e-version in the nick of time (one hour to go) for 99 cents but it’s already $9.99 :(.

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    • Rob will fix yer wagon. The squirrely little sumbich!

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      • Hey Nicole- check your inbox. Sorry about the trouble!

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        • Rob and Matt, thanks so much!

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  65. Nola!! Please! How did you use the Diatomaceous Earth to deal with head lice??? We have a chronic head-lice problem around here, any advice accepted gratefully.

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    • Hi Nik
      A little bit further up I wrote a reply to Jessica about the DE and lice.
      You can also sprinkle DE on pillows at night – messy but works to help kill stray
      creatures.

      When we had scabies which are far more pernicious than lice,
      I actually sprinkled DE around the whole house, floors ,couches, beds, bedding, the inside of our clothes.
      Seems kind of extreme- but scabies can get through the whole house , clothes, bedding , car , and lay eggs etc, and I was desperate to get rid of them.

      Teatree oil and clove oil are really good with lice too- teatree for killing lice and clove for getting the eggs.

      Any way that you can get the oils and the DE into the hair in a way that that works for you is good.
      Generally you just need a carrier of some sort, or a way to distribute it nicely.

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  66. Slowly reading my way through this book and it’s the first real introduction I’ve had to you or your work. So far it seems to make a LOT of sense. I’ve been primal/paleo for about three years now, and while I suspect I have had a lifelong issue with gluten, (hence why at first eating primally did wonders for me physically and psychologically) lately I had been feeling like I’ve gone down the rabbit hole w/r/t incessant paleo “troubleshooting.” Basically I’ve managed to tie my brain into knots pinballing between a strict anti-immune protocol, then just no dairy, then a whole 30 challenge, then a no sugar challenge, then a super low carb approach, then starting to wonder if I had the dreaded adrenal fatigue or thyroid issues. All the while looking with despair at my flabby waistline, willing myself through yet another WOD flogging. Ugh. Enough, I said. My challenge for the rest of my life is to never, ever again do any sort of food related challenge. And I do mean ever.

    So about a month ago I think I sort of intuitively started exploring what you outline in your book: the idea of addressing metabolic health is still new to me, but I’ve upping my carbs (though focusing on root veggies and white rice) keeping my food choices fresh and whole, unprocessed, and stopping ALL intense workouts. I enjoy a daily 3-5 mile walk, which I find refreshing, and occasionally I’ll go out to my garage gym for some squats or pullups. I was, however, still missing the piece about the refeeding and I’m looking forward to implementing that. My first “diet” I put myself on was when I was six. I didn’t need it at all of course, but my older sisters were dieting and I wanted to emulate them I guess. I’ve always suspected that I set myself up at a young age for metabolic damage, but now I’m starting to see I can probably reverse that fairly quickly. I’ll let you know how it goes.

    Another note: I really dig that you quoted Jon Gabriel in your book. I’ve been dabbling with his work over the past few years and have always felt he was really onto something with the piece he brings about “emotional” and “mental” obesity. Perhaps his material would be worth revisiting as well.

    Thanks, Matt! My discovery of your site and book came at a really great time. Keep up the good work!

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  67. I am so desperate for help. I can’t wrap my brain around eating the junk food. I just am not willing to gain any extra weight at all, because it mentally terrifies the hell out of me. I’ve done so much dieting and nothing works. At one point had autoimmune issues with my thyroid and I cured it eating raw vegan, but could never lose weight on that diet no matter what. (I did not do 80/10/10. Too much sugar causes me to feel even more depressed and gain weight.) The depression finally took it’s toll on me this past year. I live in a horrible prison. (Literally, I gained almost 3 pounds just by LOOKING at my husband’s birthday cake. I didn’t even eat any of it. I haven’t celebrated Valentine’s Day in years. Would love to have just one bite of an good grade organic chocolate.) I’ve read some of Matt’s stuff, but I need to see people getting better. Who has gotten better without gaining weight?

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    • My hair is growing back in…yes, even with weight gain. I didn’t gain it all back and when I eat between hunger and satiety and get lots of sleep, the scales show a slow reversal. I just need to stop looking at the scale and follow my body’s hunger and satiety….TRUST it first. Like my grandchildren eat and are little hot engines (normal weight) that like to move and play all day long.

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    • BTW, Denise, have you read Matt’s current e-book yet? Everything you’re saying would be answered for you if you read it.

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  68. So…..I have LOW cortisol and low body temps despite thyroid lab values that look great. I’m not talking just TSH, but my freeT3 and freeT4 are in the really good to optimal levels. However, my reverse T3 is highish also.

    I am also somewhat overweight and continued to gain weight and grow more tired the last year despite religous exercise and the now dreaded paleo/intermittent fasting lifestyle.

    Am i correct that this diet recovery is still for me despite the ideal labs??? Because of my low temps??? Or should I be more concerned about the low cortisol, for which I am taking hydrocortisone for at the moment?

    I guess I am double checking that this is what I should be doing……

    Thanks

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    • Labs don’t matter, only your true metabolic output, which is a factor of a lot more than just thyroid hormones circulating in the bloodstream at any given moment. And body temperature and other signs are much better at gauging your true metabolic output.

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      • Thanks, that’s what I figured…..just my neurotic mind freaking out about pounding down the food!! Love the book, it really spoke to me and I feel like I have finally found an answer for my bad health!!!(Had 2 Big Mac’s and large fry last night BTW…..first time in years!!!,,,and was still hungry!)

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  69. Hey Matt, Mmmmmm, I just feasted on your book! (And I can’t wait to snack on some more through re-reading later, when my thoughts are getting watered down by stupid “expert” messages and women’s magazine headlines.). One question, I know that you guys are not into recommending supplements and (I think) are pretty much against using them. But I wondered if you have an opinion about digestive enzymes? I have been taking them for the past couple of years. It’s hard to tell if they are genuinely making a difference but I guess psychologically it just “feels” better to me to take them, especially a lacase enzyme when I’m eating a lot of dairy or a gluten enzyme when having a lot of wheat. (I actually have otherwise made a lot of headway in getting past my past over-use of supplements, over-restrictive dietary restrictions, and just overall over-thinking.) Do you see a potential benefit in digestive enzymes? Or a harm for that matter? Could using them decrease my body’s ability to make them on my own? I know this is kind of a neurotic question, but I’d love your opinion. I happen to have psoriasis by the way (have had for about 12 years), which was the genesis of most of my dietary investigations over the years, more so than “overweight”.

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    • Piggybacking off of this -I would LOVE to know if digestive enzymes are recommended. I have really shitty digestion and have been taking them for the past couple weeks, but wonder if they will slow or inhibit the body’s healing or producing it’s own gastric enzymes. IF they even work, that is. Wonder if you should just start at a natural state, without any added enzymes, and let the body struggle to compensate until it normalizes out.

      I’ve had the same question about supplements/laxatives for those of us who have chronic, severe constipation. I’ve had lifelong constipation and haven’t been able to have a BM, even with eating tons of food. Will taking something like Mirilax make the body dependent on it, so that it doesn’t heal as well as could? I’ve avoided Mirilax like the plague over the past couple of years, but all the organic/natural cures I’ve tried scare me (large doses of natural laxatives) or have not worked.

      Thoughts anyone?

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      • I think it was the great Marshall White who once said, “If you’re not pooping 2-4 times per day you’re not eating enough food.” (He also said, “If you’re an athlete and you’re not eating lots of fat and carbs, you might as well eat a pack of dicks.” Not that this has relevance to your comment, but it’s a quote worth repeating!)

        Obviously more to it. I have nothing against digestive enzymes. Most find magnesium supplementation to be a good in between crutch to keep bowels flowing until metabolic rate comes up.

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  70. Hi Matt, I have read much of your work & would like to change my eating habits to follow your advice. I have been on prednisone for 3 years with high doses of 60mg during flares of auto immune pancreatitis. My weight has crept up & my energy is in the toilet. My basal temp is 35.1C & I’m sweating. My question is should I start refeeding? With the high cortisol I have, would that just send my weight soaring? Is it worth having a private consult with you or is my situation beyond your expertise? Many doctors have said they don’t know what to do. Thanks Matt.

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  71. Darn it!! I was sooo looking forward to buying this. I went to Amazon about 2 hours before it ended and it was $9.99?
    I guess I will just have to wait til its on sale again! =(

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    • Sent you an email Kristine.

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      • Thank You sooo much. I will be writing my review soon.

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  72. Bought it and am reading it. Thanks Matt

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  73. Seeing all the sandwich vids (Though he eats lots of other veggierecipes too) in this compilation makes me really want to eat all those sandwiches,apart from the Vegan substitute ones. And that Mac&Cheese looks awesome,though it’s not a common dish here so wouldn’t know what actually would go in it.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RV5aHO1bytc

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  74. On a sidenote….I regularly talk to the guys in the gym,asking them if they’re doing a certain program and eating style,most of them don’t. So today I spoke yet again to a guy and he said he basically goes to lift/workout and do a little cardio 3days a week.So I asked him if he’d followed a special eating regimen and he said he didn’t,he just doesn’t snack/eat desserts overall so he told me a bit what he ate,usually about 8slices of bread daily,standard dinner etc. and in the weekend sometimes something like fries&such, but he said that if he wanted he could eat all day and very fast gain lots of fat so he did watch out a bit. Hearing this made me kinda scared,bc I really wonder if former early ‘fatties’ such as myself,always have to kinda balance things out with exercise/not being really sedentary/watch a bit how much you eat especially with messed up metabolism/’hunger-feelings/pangs’ etc…..
    And then there’s the tvprograms such as Obese,which don’t work re-assuring either. I actually hadn’t watched tv for a time now anymore and yet today when I had the courage to eat at home and watch tv during dinner bc having something to watch simultaneously relaxes me when being by myself,this program is on……and I know I shouldn’t watch those kind of programs bc they’re not healthy for me,yet there’s also a part of me that wants to know more.

    Workout related,I obviously still havent read DR2 and hoping it’ll finally be printed 2morrow,I know a guy who goes to the gym 3times a week to do steady state cardio for 3hours and lost 10kg of fat especially bellyfat and he actually likes it. He first goes on the threadmill for an hour(no jogging,just fast-paced walking to up his heartrate a bit) then pauses 10min. to decrease his heartrate to normal again and does it again for another 2 blocks of an hour varying with crosstrainer/stairmaster. This seems to contradict all exercise recommendations lately….
    I don’t know what he eats and such,but I do know he’s not into all kinds of ‘diets’ such as Paleo/Primal,Vegan,Peat,Raw,Fruitarian,WAPF,GAPS etc. I think he hasn’t even heard of such stuff!(Though sometimes seeing certain people’s general meals,could be losely labelled into some kind of ‘diet’….I actually think all those nametags are what work people into a mess,bc with those labels you most of the time mentally feel like you need to adhere to certain guidelines)

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  75. Hey Matt! Quick question – in DR1 and the end of 180 Kitchen, you mention that a higher ratio of starches with lower fat helps with shuttling more of the weight gain to muscles rather than fat. Would you still recommend this tactic? I RRARFED last year and gained some good weight, but relapsed into dieting again for a few months. Hoping to do the refeeding a bit cleaner this time and gain more muscle.

    I’m planning on creating a simple blog to chronicle this process – hopefully it will help others understand the benefits of ETF.

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    • Yes, I recommend eating with a strong carbohydrate emphasis, even more so if overfeeding and hoping to gain muscle.

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  76. Excellent, thank you. Won’t make myself crazy trying to dial down a certain macro, but I’ll play with it and try to get fat under 25%. Making the RS3 Salad tomorrow. Much tastier than a vegan crouton-free dairy-free salad.

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  77. Question for Matt Stone about sugar…

    I’m currently reading your book about digestion (180 Degree Digestion) and in it you regularly blame refined sugar on *lowering* metabolism. However, on these articles and comments, you and Danny Roddy praise plain sugar as a supplement-like food that is useful for *raising* metabolism. Even Ray Peat claims the same thing.

    In the comments, you will see how sugar is a mixed bag, sometimes having a counter-productive net result on people. Others, however, swear it works miracles.

    This is all starting to confuse me. How can the same substance lower AND raise metabolism. Why is it to be avoided AND used regularly?

    Am I simply reading a book that has your out-dated opinions about metabolism and digestion? I bought the book (180 Degree Digestion) to see whether or not I like your writing style; how clearly you communicate your ideas; and how clean and consistent the spelling, grammar, and formatting are. If I like what I read, I am likely to buy your other book(s). However, the strange “180” (pardon the pun) about refined sugar makes me hesitant to do so. If you’re attacking refined sugar in your digestion book, yet praise it in your other book(s), then I might have to pass, to be honest…

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    • That book is outdated in that regard. Sugar raises metabolism. It can just cause some intial stress for those with crappy glucose metabolism. With proper acclimation to it being a regular staple of the diet it should have a very warming effect, as much or more so than any other food.

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  78. Matt, recently finished DR2. It was nice to read a book like this written by a man and explained they way you do.i have read plenty written by women( intuitive eating, Geneen Roth etc). I’ve decided to try to eat for warmth and metabolism, and to stop dieting. It won’t be easy, but I know I can come here for support. The hardest part was accepting that after almost 20 years of dieting I am still fat. Less fat then my fattest, but not as small as I have been. But honestly I’m just tired and discouraged. I have tried everything but this. So I’m diving in head first, and hoping that I don’t gain weight back to my heaviest.

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  79. Eating for heat and tracking my temps for over a week now and they have been quite low and stubborn. My temps are the highest when I wake up, average 97.1. I eat half a pizza (or similar foods) and I can get them up to 96.5 during the day, otherwise they are in the 95s. I have Hashimoto’s and Multiple Sclerosis, so I take synthroid and LDN at night, probably the reason for the higher temps in the morning. Is this just going to take me longer, do I need to eat more? I feel exhausted and starting to feel discouraged.

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    • Oh Sarah, it will likely take quite a few months at the least. This is not a quick process. I’m seven months into this and I started with a low of 97.1 and am only now hitting 98.8. Hopefully it will be quicker for you, but you need to give your body plenty of time (the average is said to be 18 months) for your body to completely heal itself. I have hashi’s as well. I can tell you that consistently eating a minimum of 2500 calories every day has helped with my fatigue. See my comment below to Linda. Hang in there; you just need more time. This process takes patience more than anything else. Hugs.

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      • Thank you for replying Emma. This is all a bit new and scary for me. I’ll definitely check out your blog. =)

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  80. I have read Eat for Heat and DR2 and am working on REALLY eating the foods (sugar,salt) recommended to bring up my temp. It’s only been 2 weeks, but my morning temp is usually 96.8 or less. My hands and feet are always cold, all day regardless of what I eat. My sleep is terrible, wake up 2-3 times every night. Naturally I have no energy. I even tried the sugar-salt under my tongue, which helped the 1st time but not after. I haven’t been to McD’s yet but did go to Five Guys for fries. Sometimes I think I’m still not eating enough. I also worry about the weight gain but I was gaining weight before I started this, don’t have much left in my closet I can wear, so I hate to continue gaining. Any suggestions?

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    • Nope. We all dread the gaining part, but there doesn’t seem to be any way around it. It’s part of the healing process. The body needs that reserve of energy(fat) for repair work. Those are calories that are needed beyond the minimum, which simply keeps us alive. The recommended minimum amount is 2500 calories. Maybe you can track your calories for a day or two to see if you’re hitting that minimum.

      http://www.youreatopia.com/blog/2011/9/14/i-need-how-many-calories.html

      If you click on my name, it will take you to my blog, where I’ve compiled information from various sources on this issue. Good luck!

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  81. Wow! I just ate a big plate of homemade french fries for lunch with salt of course, and now my temp is 98.1. For me that is high.

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  82. Hey Matt – Just finished DR2 for the second time. Love it! Quetion: Are receding gums a sign of a low metabolism? I’m only 31 but the gums are really receding to the point that I need to find some kind of solution. Just wondering if any of your research had indicated this was a symptom.

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    • Tyler, check out orawellness.com for info on receding gums. Matt, I have been working on raising my metabolism for 3 weeks. I had a dental appointment today and was shocked to find I have 4 small cavities. I haven’t had a cavity in years, plus I have been following the wapf whole food diet. I know you love white sugar but I’m afraid to follow your advice for adding sugar to everything. Also don’t know if I should cut back on grains, which i have been eating a lot of. The only thing I know to do to hopefully heal the cavities is take butter oil with fclo.

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  83. I love this book but im confused. Whenever anyone talks about making changes they always assume that you are someone who eats fast food and drinks soda. Ive always been a fairly clean eater but over the years my borderline eating disorder has royally jacked up my metabolism. I have been fairly strict LC fir at least 2 years but after i fained back the 12 lbs i lost my weight wont budge. Of course i assumed i wasnt being “good” enough so i went hard core in the Dukan Diet and did about 60 minutes of cardio several tome per week. After a month of being 100% strict i hadnt lost one single ounce. Inwas heartbroken and miserable. I have hidden my scale formthe time being and just want to focus on fixing my metabolism but im fraked out wiht the refeed. Im worried that ill gain a bunch of weight and then will n
    revert to old habits. How can i fix myself without causing more emotinal damage of gaining weight? Can it even be done?

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