The Weird Al Yankovic School of Nutrition (WAYS Nutrition)

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Everything I learned about nutrition came from Weird Al Yankovic, Board certified Musicianal Nutritionist. That whole “independent health and nutrition exploration” thing was really just a cover-up. I’ve never read any of the books I claim to have read. I just listened to every word of every album produced by Weird Al Yankovic, and developed my health and nutrition philosophy from it.  I am indeed a graduate of the WAYS Nutrition Program.  I had excellent grades as well, graduating Dim Sum.

In today’s post, we take a glimpse into the exciting and pioneering health and nutrition insights offered up in song by Yankovic, M.D. (Musical Doctor). Yankovic gives some sound advice, particularly on the dangers of overconsumption of sugar, but it is hard to get a clear grasp of his nutritional philosophy as a whole…

Weird Al is actually a bit of a dietary prophet in my view, but I’m concerned that he leans towards the 30bananasaday crowd when he states, in Eat It, to…

“Have a banana, have a whole bunch, it doesn’t matter what you have for lunch, just eat it.”

But he sends some mixed messages in the song Taco Grande when he says…

“I love to stuff my face with tacos al carbon, with my friends or when I’m all alone.”

In the same song he notes gluten intolerance in the form of physical addiction…

“My only addiction has to do with a flour tortilla, I need a quesadilla.”

But he does show signs of weight gain when eating to appetite…

“I eat uno, dos, tres, cuatro burritos, pretty soon I can’t fit in my Speedos.”

He also suggests that white flour is fattening in the song Lasagna when he claims that eating more Ravioli…

“You will get Roly Poly, a nice-and-a-big-a like your cousin Luigi.”

Yankovic also appears to have Bulemia as well, that is triggered by Bologna specifically…

“Never gonna stop, eat it up, such a tasty snack I always eat too much, and throw up… my, my, my, my, my, whoo! Mamamama my bologna!”

But my greatest concern is over Yankovic’s sweet tooth…

He claims to love “the white stuff in the middle of an Oreo” and acknowledges that “you might get a pimple or two” and “his teeth are rotted clear through.”

And he has mentioned problems with sugar addiction in the form of Rocky Road ice cream as well, and has been known to have “a gallon” in a single sitting, which he shows marked enthusiasm for by adding an emphatic “baby” after “a gallon.” He also encourages others by requesting that you “have another triple scoop with me.” He consumed plenty in the privacy of his own home as well, and not just with others. When he’s all alone, he just grabs himself a cone.

Yankovic seems to have battled lifelong weight fluctuations as well, being so fat at one point that he claims to have needed “his own zip code,” which he presumably treated with the Grapefruit Diet if his song “Grapefruit Diet” is any indication.

And, on the topic of Circadian Rhythms and late night eating, I find this set of lyrics to be particularly revealing – perhaps being central to his tireless struggles with obesity…

I’m never satisfied with three meals a day
While the world is sleeping I’ll be munching away
Gonna sneak into the kitchen, gonna tiptoe down and turn on the light
Right, yeah, if no one’s around to see you
It don’t matter if you snack all night

A million chicken bones are under my bed
A pile of Twinkie wrappers all ’round my head
Jelly doughnuts to the left of me
Got a bag of chocolate chips on the right
Right, yeah, if you don’t mind the calories
It don’t matter if you snack all night

Yankovic even appears to have spent time in the localvore scene getting some real, local foods. Is Yankovic a member of the Weston A. Price Foundation? Perhaps. He has “churned butter once or twice” during his time in what I assume is Lancaster county Pennsylvania, better known as “Amish Paradise.”

He might perhaps be into eating high meat as is commonly practiced by Aajonus Vonderplanitz, as his refrigerator is apparently filled with food that is unidentifiable and “living” as this lecture entitled “Livin’ in the Fridge Suggests…”

And, if you are a woman and you find a strange desire to want to eat during the middle of the day, not really having a desire breakfast or dinner or brunch, there may be an innate biochemical  reason for it.  According to Yankovic’s pioneering research, “Girls Just Wanna Have Lunch.”

Anyway, it’s an interesting discussion. Below I’ve included some of Yankovic’s most powerful lectures on diet and health for further study.  His treatise on Rocky Road in particular is very inspirational, and speaks to the power of sugar addiction, the uniquely fattening property of ice cream, and the impacts of sugar on dental health…   

112 Comments

  1. It is so appropriate that mine is the first comment as I am just as silly as this post is.
    Matt, you always make me smile and today you made me laugh.
    That is worth all the tea in China, diets be damned!
    love the WAY!
    xo deb

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  2. I write this passionate post – spilling my guts over all things nutrition and you call it "silly" and say it makes you "laugh?"

    Sniffle, sniffle.

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  3. That first quote,

    "Have a banana, have a whole bunch, it doesn't matter what you have for lunch, just eat it."

    Full of wisdom, thanks to HED and my metabolism is crazy making what I eat almost a non-issue. I just stay away from the white flour and especially Omega 6.

    Far cry from the Paleo days.

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  4. I am sorry that I wounded your pride Mr. Stone.
    I will rephrase my comment:

    This insightful and serious social commentary on the proper diet for modern man is on a level with the work of Weston Price, Steffan Lindenberg and T L Cleave. I found this to be a profound, thought provoking work of incredible genius, heretofore
    unseen in the world. Matt Stone is a gem, a gift to all mankind and will forever be remembered as a rule breaker and maverick of health and nutritional information.

    Now get a tissue and blow your nose already. Jeez.
    Love you
    deb

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  5. My parents never let my sister and I sing Michael Jackson's "**** It", but we could sing Weird Al's "Eat It". It made me feel just a little bit cool. I'll always be grateful to him for that.

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  6. Very inspirational Deb thank you. Much better.

    Johnny-

    I even had Eat It on a record that I played on a Fisher Price record player. The other side of the record had the Curly Shuffle. It was pretty sick. Weird Al pretty much defined my childhood.

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  7. Wow, Al Wierd has got a narrow upper palate….you can see it if you pause the Livin' in the Fridge video.

    The Amish will be the only once set when oil peaks…lol….

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  8. Ha! Yeah, Al is a bit of degenerate, but he is aging about as well as anybody I've ever seen. He'll be 51 this year.

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  9. 51 is the new 31.
    At least for us who are 51.
    eh hem.

    xo deb

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  10. My kids love those Weird Al songs! And even the Michael Jackson versions… I remember when our parents thought those were so risque – now they're fine family entertainment.

    Except for trying to make sure we get more protein in the morning, and of course avoiding the evil, fake, processed food and white stuff, a few weeks ago we migrated to just eating it too. Too much stress, especially with 5 people who all seem to have different needs. I'm still stuck at 25lbs over where I was when I started… and it's not going away. But hormones are better all the time. If I could just start sleeping well, I'm sure I would be in great shape. Resetting my clock hasn't worked yet…

    And those Tabatas are my new favorite thing. I may not be losing weight, but I'm definitely getting stronger, 4 minutes at a time.

    Glad you're back, Matt. Chief is a nice addition and all (no offense Chief), but you're the reason I'm still reading.

    Jamie, from last post – 30 days is nowhere near enough. I didn't have any food issues, and I'm still working on things five months later.

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  11. hahahhahaha holy throw back weird al!!!!!!!!! lol, oddly some of what your quote of him DOES make some sense.

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  12. hahahhahaha holy throw back weird al!!!!!!!!! lol, oddly some of what your quote of him DOES make some sense.

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  13. lorlei,

    C'est normal tu m'envoye chier! tabarnak c'est un devoir patriotique de tout les quebecois de fair ca a des esti-d' sauvages :P

    Matt,
    shit you beat me to it again.. my post will have the more appropriate "skinny Al"
    I think he speaks the truth of the natural skinnies that never have a weird relationship with food.
    and stressing about things, food in this case might be the reason why these people have weight issues.

    and I quote his "eat it " often as it is by far the "F@#k a diet" anthem.

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  14. Really Matt, you're always writing these serious posts…why don't you relax and show us your sense of humor once in a while?

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  15. Quelques de mes amis en ecole secondaire etait des "sauvages" de la res hors de Montreal. Pleins de mes amis en Utah sont des "sauvages" Navajos. Pleins de mes amis en Hawaii sont des "sauvages" Hawaiian. Fermez ta bouche. Je ne sais pas qui tu connait Quebecois, mais la majorite de mes amis n'avait rien contre des indiens. Peut etre les vieux persons. Mais pas les jeunes. Puis c'est "tabarnacle" et "estie" et "fait chier", colline.

    And you claim not to be racist, but can't help immediately insulting my "heritage" because I said I was glad Matt was back to commenting on his own blog? Get over yourself and your insecurities about your own heritage. Not everybody is out to get you – at least not because you're a "savage", but more likely because you're rude and insulting.

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  16. And if it was your idea of a "joke" to say I can't help insulting you just because I'm from Quebec, it's just not funny – just like KKKanada, etc. isn't. I'm not the only one who's been offended by your comments in the last few days. If you're really not intending offense, then you need to work on it a little.

    And since I promised I'd never say another word that didn't relate to food (until of course, I'm insulted for no obvious reason other than I grew up in Quebec), I'm done now.

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  17. Gott love Weird Al. He can be obnoxious, yet so talented and funny.

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  18. Lorelei,

    I say whatever comes to mind or pops in my head.If you didn't find it funny others might disagree.
    I'll talk about non food issues because they relate to health a great deal, people can skip over if they want. Poking fun at racism for me has had great health benefits. It's not for nothing oppressed people have bad health …. stress is killer! LAUGH A LIL' PEOPLE.
    racial discrimination obviously effects emotional eating and other factors in weight management.

    Sometimes people think I'm being sexist when I say women have higher levels of estrogen. I cant help the misunderstanding. The only way I can have no opposition is to remain silent and Im sure my good outweighs my bad.

    You didn't have to take it all extreme, it was a joke.
    When i forget to share with one of my black friends and he says "what am I black ?" or "Damn you natives are racist", I laugh like everyone else around n don't think he implies we are truly racist… ( see Russell Peters for a sense of humor on racial issues.)

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  19. Lorelie, i find it funny you would not see it as a joke why would i really, seriously care if you liked matt more than me.

    me saying (translation) "take matt's side It's your patriotic duty to hate me, a damn savage" was obviously an overstatement to point out the ridiculous nature of racism. Canadian comedians point out racist things in quebec all the time.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e_–adcR-80

    after seeing this, some people may disagree with your view that quebec doesn't deserve to be spelled kkkebec.

    i was trying to identify with you, with an "inside joke" thinking, with your quebec upbringing, you would have had a laugh about it as it is a common thing among young and old to say ignorant things like that all over quebec that's why i put it in french. (The ridiculousness does not translate well into english).

    Especially considering I laugh it off even after having been beaten near death, denied social services, strip searched on the side of the road by cops and many other things on numerous occasions due to quebec's racial climate. Unfortunately I didn't know it was Montreal where you were raised which differs in it's muti-cultural background and much better racial tolerance you might have found it a bit more humorous if you traveled all over quebec.

    in peace and friendship

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  20. lorelie if your looking for hard facts

    http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2007/01/15/mtl-racism.html

    I think if they did the poll outside of montreal it would have been likely in the found to have a range of 80 to 90 % racist view based my experience. Its not that i think as you said "people are out to get me" even if they obviously have "gotten me", maybe if you didn't think i was out to get you I wouldn't have to explain my self.

    I welcome your views, positive or negative and mean you no harm… laugh a lil' :)

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  21. I can see that you would have been joking, re-reading. I just happen to have some good "savage" friends, and like you said, in Montreal, we really don't see anti-Native sentiment, so I couldn't see where you were coming from with that comment. It seemed more like an attack. Sorry. Plus I lived near the Navajo reservation for years without any obvious signs of racism. But a couple of years in the midwest with SOME black people overreacting to almost anything and calling it racist have maybe disposed me to overreact back. I couldn't understand why you were so upset that I like Matt :) ? Spending all day with children has dulled my ability to catch more adult humor :).

    I'm sure you're right that there is racism outside of Montreal. I've just don't remember any anti-native sentiment growing up, so I really didn't get that you were joking. Hmmm, although I guess there might have been some during the golf course uprising, but I wasn't old enough to pay much attention then.

    You can include Hawaii on your list of places you're welcome to come and discuss about food and life.

    And I'm glad to read you think eve is a better time to eat your big meal. But maybe morning is better if you're trying to reset your clock to be a morning person. What do you think?

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  22. Freaking Brilliant! What about his mom feeding him a great big bowl of sauerkraut? He was apparently not very fond of it though…

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  23. EVERYONE .. if all else fails assume I'm joking i often am in a my own weird way sometimes subtle as in kkkanada :) I have agreed to stop once there is no racism within the government. It's political agenda/humor ..dont take it as hate

    Lorelei,
    thanks for the invite i was planning on going to hawaii to see some of my "savage" lol friends from there.

    I stated in the circadian post, the number one thing that has the effect of reseting the rhythm is getting enough lumens of light ( some believe sunlight in particular) as soon as you wake. My suggestion being to seek out the sun right away even in your robe. just waking up and taking a pee in a hunter gather sense would require seeing the sun.

    to illustrate

    10,000–20,000 lux is the amount of daylight that is not directly in the sun on an average day

    and the average family living room is about 50 lux
    (lux is a unit of measure amount brightness of light)

    It's safe to say, waking up to foldger's in the kitchen does not compare to sunlight.

    according to my research it makes the most sense to eat the majority of calories in the evening as the human body is primed for this purpose at that time. It's really complex and there are many reasons ( too much for even multiple comments) I plan on posting something up online in the near future once my blog is sorted out by my techie.

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  24. Comedy aside, are you actually in a grad program for nutrition?

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  25. CHIEF-

    Funny thing, I've always had problems with sleep (insomnia) and tossed and turned when falling asleep, waking many times during the night. Waking up very unrested in the morning. Getting an average of 5 hours of sleep every night. When I then had to go to an desert Island for 2 months (part of a TV-show) I slept like a baby?? I was the one going to bed first and the last one to wake up?! We obviously didn't have any alarm clocks but just woke up at sunrise and also went to bed (or at least I did) when the sun went down. I think I slept around 10 hours every night! If it was the non stress from everyday life that made me relax, or because I maybe reset my clock, doing things all nature style, I don't know? All I know is that I slept like a baby, the whole time I was there and I sometimes make fun of it, saying I will go back to Malaysia and sleep on the beach, every time I have trouble sleeping ;-D

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  26. Shiela ,

    Awesome story I notice it does have that effect on people. It is my primary reason for "fuckin off in the bush " as my friends call it when I go all wilderness mode. which I just got to civilization whenever I first started posting on here :)

    Malaysia sounds like fun might have to try it. I loves me some travel !

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    • If you want to go to some Tropical county you should try Vancouver Island. I would suggest Sombrio Beach. If you google Sombrio Beach and click on the manlymedia you will see a trailer for a one hour video about a lifestyle ICI au kkkanada, that if it still existed is a prime example of “fuckin off in the bush”

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  27. I am stunned by the lack of outrage. Matt just confessed he hasn't READ A SINGLE BOOK on his extensive I've-read-all-these-books-lists, and everybody's congratulating him for having simply graduated from WAYS? (Which, come on, has gotta be a ton easier.)

    Seriously, though, this is the funniest ever.

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  28. Good. Glad there are still some Weird Al fans out there.

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  29. CHIEF-

    Me loves traveling as well -especially "all natural"!

    Malaysia is incredible! It was such a great experience to live like a stranded foreigner ;-)

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  30. Well, now that the fighting is over, I feel it is safe to come back and poke fun at Matt's taste in music.
    Because I loved Dr. Demento and "Another One Rides the Bus" was one of my first WAY favs, I too am a geek of the highest order.
    xo deb

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  31. Ey-hay att-may, ou-yay are-way ust-jay a-way ig-pay eaded-hay unk-pay.

    Take that.

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  32. Wow, there are all kinds of foreign languages being dropped here. Thanks Johnny. Know any Clingon? (Did I spell that right?)

    Deb-

    I think I'm missing a contact lens I think my wallet's gone, I think this bus is stoppin' again to let a couple mo freaks get on… look out!!!

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  33. On a totally unrelated note (nutrition, LOL!) what's the concensus opinion…which is better, Ezekial Bread or Oatmeal? I have been eating eggs and oatmeal but was thinking "why not just eat the bread?"

    Thanks!

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  34. Ezekial has some form of soy in it, which keeps us eating it once a week at most.

    "K"lingon. But I have no idea how to speak it.

    I haven't much trouble getting up in the morning. I wake up around 7 w/out a clock. Light shines on my face. It's the going to bed before midnight (or later), no matter how tired I am, that's difficult. I've been trying to keep the lights low, put f.lux on the 'puter (thanks whoever suggested that), eat less protein at night, not have my usual right-before-bed snack, etc…

    Does Al have any advice about that?

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  35. I'm sorry, I meant does the estimable Mr. Yankovic have any advice. No disrespect to your mentor.

    Deb, I was wondering if you had heard of/considered Essiac Tea?

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  36. I've cleaned my computer and uploaded spybot. Now m the profile pictures on this comments page aren't showing. Any ideas how to fix?

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  37. Lorelei — Sounds to me like you're doing everything right, sleep-wise. I know that my body gets into bad sleep habits very easily — if I wake up at 3 one night, I'll often just keep waking then. My solution is to mix things up and shock myself out of its habits, usually by getting up earlier. Try setting the alarm for five for a couple of days. You'll be totally ready to sleep at midnight. Then, you can experiment with sleeping later.

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  38. @ Matt: "ew, he's gonna sit by you! Another one rides the bus!"

    Lorelei: I know of the essiac tea but really have not ventured down that road. I feel pretty damn good and hope to feel even better when I stop trying to kill myself at the gym and do a full on RRARF next month.

    @The Real Will: First of all, is there a Fake Will?
    On Oatmeal, I used to use Oat Groats, which are rare oat grains, soak them over night, you can give them a little whirl in the food processor and add some usual oatmeal fixin's and they are good. I used Ezekiel too, the bread is cheeewwwyyy and there are some odd ingredients, the cereal is ok but both give me.. eh hem, flautulence of the worst kind :) blame it on the dog kind. If you want a whole new thing, try Chia Goodness in the original style, just hemp, chia and buckwheat, its great in almond milk or whatever milk you like.

    Matt: What say you on a RRARF that is heavy on the Kitavan type foods? I think it will work for me and would like to see if tons of tateys and fishies will make me sing with happiness.. and coconut and greens of course!
    xoxo
    deb

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  39. rare oat grains? duh, I meant "raw" oat grains.. they sell them at WF and they sell Chia goodness there too.
    my bad

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  40. and in case you are wondering, I did not get a dog just to cover my gas issues whilst raw.
    hee hee
    and Yes, there were MAJOR gas issues around here. Just not nice at all. Poor Malcolm the wonder dog, he got blamed for everything. :)

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  41. I noticed we had waaaay less gas when we quit eating all raw too!

    We still do the raw oatmeal. I like it cold, esp since it's never cold here. I soak it with whey for 36+ hours though, so it's good and sour. Then mix with kefir and papaya. The kids love it.

    For awhile I was waking up every day naturally at 5:30 (to pee), and when I do, I don't go back to sleep (those darn birds!!!). I didn't get to bed any earlier. Sigh. The only time I've had a good sleep sched was the first few months after we moved to HI (with the major time change), but then my hubby started working graves and we've been messed up again ever since.

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  42. Deb-

    Are you doing another round of RRARF? Or are you doing it for the first time?

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  43. Hi Katerina,
    First timer here, a rrarf virgin :)
    I plan to keep good records and see what I can gather from it all. I will use the new lower fat, more tatos guidelines and I plan to try to do it Kitivan styley. You reminded me, I need to get my pit thermometer bedside!
    My temps have been good, I just want to see how exercising way less intensely goes. I plan to do yoga, walking and some easy bike rides.
    stay tuned!
    deb

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  44. Deb-

    Are you looking to make muscle gains?

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  45. LORELEI-
    I'm the exact same as you. Wake up between 7 and 8 and have a really hard time going to bed before midnight too. I use flux too (very soothing) but i doesn't really make me want to get to bed earlier. Maybe if I just stopped getting on this site, every evening (DAMN YOU 180!!) and just went straight for the sack. What has helped me is listening to some relaxing music or meditation (Jon Gabriel), while lying in bed, for about 20mins. It really does the trick. I can never remember the last bit of the relaxations dvd, which means it's working ;-)

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  46. Oh, and another thing.. Can someone please explain the whole process of SOAKING?? I tried soaking some brown rice and after a few days, it smelled so damn foul that it poisoned the whole house! It literally smelled like bad breath (the one you get from getting real drunk, puking all night and forget to brush your teeth)!
    Do you understand why I am afraid to do this to my beloved oatmeal?
    What am I doing wrong?

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  47. Soak 12 to 24 hrs not 2 days.

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  48. Nice blog as for me. It would be great to read a bit more about that theme. The only thing your blog needs is some pics of some devices.

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  49. I like the taste and texture of ezekial bread but I stopped eating it when I read soy in the ingredients.

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  50. RE: soaking rice.

    I put the amount of rice I choose into a large jar and fill with enough water to cover the rice plus a couple of inches. The water I use is warmed first, on the stove. Not hot, but sort of like bath water….a hot bath. To the jar of water and rice I add 1 tablespoon of kifir per cup of water. I use kifir but any acid medium will do. Whey, plain yogurt, vineger, lemon juice etc.
    I put the jar in a warm area (I wrap my jar in a towel) and let sit for 24 hours. I also soak my oatmeal the same way as well as quinoa (quinoa soaks for 12 hours).

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  51. TOMMY-
    Thank you, thank you, thank you!
    See, I left out the most important thing -acid! I will definitely try that tomorrow with my oats, for starters.

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  52. Matt,

    I did the milk diet for 4 weeks in hopes to heal some chronic folliculitis. It did alot of good things, including improving the condition.

    I went off it for a week but am now back on it out of sheer lazyness and I am finding some interesting things this time around.

    First off, I am taking Ohhira's OMX 12 Probiotic as well as Theralac and L.Rueteri this time. Noticing more energy and better well being. Skin has gotten more moist, less red.

    But my temperatures have been strange. My morning temperature this morning was 97.4, 98.0, 98.0, and 97.8… measuring under the tognue. (spell check?)

    At night its 97.5, 97.6, 97.8. The first time I did the milk diet it was 98.8 after the first day.

    I got this folliculitis 3 years ago on Accutane. During that time I had lost like 25 or so pounds from cross country without realizing it. Lost another 10 threw the next year. In 2008 I realized how horribly weak and underweight I really was, and basically went on a long time binge diet to gain weight. Got back up to 130, was a mix of fat and muscle. Went up to 140 due to bad freshmen college eating. Got back in shape summer 2009 on Primal Diet…

    Folliculitis worsened in 2009 cause I tried the oil cleansing method, got a initial breakout, and went a little trigger happy on the popping… It spread form a small area on my lower cheeks… very managable, to around my upper lip.

    It's all really annoying because a.) Pretty sure if I went gluten free in high school my acne would have disappeared and I would have not taken accutane.
    b.) I am now in a very serious relationship and my obssession with curing this disease is really starting to interfere…

    I am totally on board with the RRARF, as I did a sort of anything goes version back in 2008. I am getting my thyroid tested Friday for Hashi's.

    I dont have many thyroid symptoms. I do not gain or loose weight any easier or harder than a normal person. My skin is great besides the folliculitis. Some dry elbows but those seem to be disappearing knock on wood.

    I am going to drop soap as I didnt wash my face last night and my condition did not get worse, it looks calm and moist.

    And for the record, I have done the get a culture, do an antibiotic like 3 times already… after reading about the horrifying Folliculitis Declavans I refuse anymore antibiotic therapy. I am megadosing probiotics and slowly noticing benefits.

    WOuld like your thoughts on what could be an underlying cause here…

    My theories are… not enough good bacteria on the skin, with a mixture of skin that is really fed up with topical treatment

    Thyroid,

    Bad gut bacteria

    ANy others?

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  53. Interesting, anonymous (folliculitus person). I have managed to clear up a chronic skin condition by doing HED/RRarf. I also did the milk diet for about 6 weeks. It helped my skin a bit, but did lots more for my temps. I have had dandruff my entire life and since my twenties (I'm 40) now it has also been on my face. I have dry red, flakey spots around my eyebrows, mouth and base of my neck. Docs prescribed prescription dandruff shampoo which I was to wash my face with. It worked somewhat, but I was pretty dependent on that stuff and it was expensive. I just got tired of going to the pharmacy all the time. Gradually I weened myself off the shampoo, going to commercial dandruff shampoos, few and fewer times a week until I no longer use any soap at all on my face. If I wear makeup, I wipe it off with cold cream or moisturizer on a cotton ball. I use coconut oil on my skin whenever I get flareups and it works as well if not better than the dandruff shampoo. Eating a diet that's a lot higher in fat than I used to seems to be the key as well as addequate moisturizing. I have a lot fewer pimples as well. (Had some nasty ones at first when I cut out Omega 6 and went to saturated fat.) Hope this helps.

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  54. I ran out of space in previous message but I think it definitely has something to do with good bacteria on your face. The probiotics are helping with that. I think that was what my dermatoligist said about my condition. That I was allergic to a commonly found beneficial skin bacteria. Over time improving overall metabolism has helped with my allergies, so that's probably why the fat/coconut oil thing has helped.

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  55. Katarina: Yes, but mostly get my temps up, they are ok, today was 98.1 but I want to see what will happen when I sloooww down, eat the food and get the zzzzzzzz's. It would be super to add muscle, but the thing I am looking for is healing and increased metabolism so I can eat more and stay the same weight.

    Hey everyone, My dear friend posted a video of me telling my story on FB (we did a talk at Whole Foods on raw/real food, growing your own food and my leukemia dealie), friend me Debbie Young and you will be able to see me in action!
    xoxo
    deb

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  56. @ Sheila

    I don't think the main problem was the lack of an acid medium, I think you just left it to soak for way too long. If you'd want to soak for that long, you'd have to change the water.

    There is a recipe out there that supposedly works very well to remove the antinutrient stuff. You soak the rice for 24 hours in plain warm water, reserve some of the water, then soak your next batch the same way but add some the reserved water from the first batch and so on. You always reserve some water and use that in the next soak. Basically it's like making sourdough, the bacteria in the water will multiply.

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  57. There is a recipe out there that supposedly works very well to remove the antinutrient stuff. You soak the rice for 24 hours in plain warm water, reserve some of the water, then soak your next batch the same way but add some the reserved water from the first batch and so on. You always reserve some water and use that in the next soak. Basically it's like making sourdough, the bacteria in the water will multiply.

    I tried that method and found it a little too complicated. I don't mean it was really difficult but the way I do it seemed quicker and less like a science project. Plus I didn't like the smell of the rice even after only 24 hours.

    Here is a link to that method:
    http://wholehealthsource.blogspot.com/2009/04/new-way-to-soak-brown-rice.html

    I prefer the 24 hour/acid medium.

    Don't forget that after soaking the rice will be water logged and will absorb less of the cooking water. Experiment with how much water you use to cook it.

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  58. For soaking longer times you have to refresh your water at least every day.

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  59. @Jennynip

    Your dandruff issues sound just like mine. I've always had it as well as dry, red flaky skin around my eyebrows, under my eyes and around my chin as well as 30 grit knees and elbows. My dandruff is gone and knees/elbows are normal. My face is still not right. My temps have been in the high 97's for only a month so I guess I just need to be patient.

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  60. Johnny: When ever I get the red skin on my face, now I put coconut oil on it and it heals up overnight. It's a problem at this time of year especially as that bacteria I'm allergic too are more prevalent in late summer, early fall.

    Tommy: the temperature in your kitchen is probably causing your rice to ferment. It can happen in only a few hours. You are making rice wine vinegar. Try putting the rice someplace cool for this. I use the three season porch except in winter when that's the walk in deep-freeze. But really I've stopped worrying about rice so much since reading this blog and now I just eat white rice and sushi rice most of the time, which only require a good rinse.

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  61. Oops, I should have said Shiela. She is the one that asked the rice question. Tommy had the rice answer. Anyway, try soaking it someplace cooler.

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  62. I keep my rice/oats etc soaking wrapped in a towel high in a closet to try and keep it warm. I think in the summer it only reaches about 80 deg up there and I had read it should be kept at 85. I have read many people who recommend keeping it in an oven (off) with the light on.
    Thus far I've had no problems.

    I started out using vinegar as a medium then lemon juice but settled on the kifir. For oatmeal, vinegar isn't so great and lemon juice….well, lemon and oats aren't as good as the kifir. The rice comes out good but then again I cook it pretty plain. I add only onions to it. The oatmeal is great IMO.

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  63. Wow, Tommy, that's the exact opposite of what I've read. I got my brown rice info from a Japanese cooking website and my oatmeal soaking info, I think from nourishing traditions. Both said to keep it cool to prevent fermentation. Weird. I've made pretty decent mueslix by soaking oats over night in the fridge with lemon juice. I'd think that soaking it with kefir and in a warm environment you'd be making fermented oatmeal. I'm confused.

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  64. It's RARRF Eve!

    My giant fork is hung by the oven with care, in hopes that my FOOD soon will be there,
    first thing in the am's (that's rapper talk yo)
    after oodles of sleep
    And lots of yams
    my tummy will keep.

    ok so I suck at poetry :)

    God bless you Matt Stone, I am actually very excited about this crazy idea of resting,eating lots of food and taking it easy on the rat wheel.
    Whee Heeeeeeeee!!
    deb xoxo
    Your Honorary Lab Rat/Hag

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  65. @Lorelei aka Hawaiigirl said…

    Ezekial has some form of soy in it, which keeps us eating it once a week at most.

    Yeah, I read that but I go back and forth on it. Sometimes I think that little bit isn't too bad and then sometime I just steer clear. Thanks!

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  66. @debbiedoesraw aka grass fed momma said…

    "@The Real Will: First of all, is there a Fake Will?"

    I used to go by just "Will" on this forum and then another guy started posting with the name "Will" also. So I changed my name to differentiate us. See, there's a reason for everything!

    "On Oatmeal, I used to use Oat Groats, which are rare oat grains, soak them over night, you can give them a little whirl in the food processor and add some usual oatmeal fixin's and they are good."

    Thanks for the input. I'll have to try that and the Chia stuff. Thanks!

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  67. Re: not using soap and using coconut oil…I tried skipping the soap and just using water to clean my face, but it didn't seem to clean it very well and I wound up with acne.

    When I use soap on my face, when I get out of the shower, if I don't put some type of moisturizer on, my skin feels like plastic wrap. Putting coconut oil made my skin look and feel very greasy.

    I just started the following: when I get a shower, i leave my jar of extra-virgin coconut oil just outside the shower. I wash up with soap. Then I put the coconut oil on my skin and then just rinse a little and then pat dry with a towel. My skin is not greasy but it still feels moisturized. Just don't get it on the tub and slip and fall. Don't say I didn't warn you!!!! ;-)

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  68. Anyone want to help me out here?

    I woke up this morning with cold symptoms and a mild fever… just wondering what I can do (non-pharmaceutical, obviously) to help me get over it. Any suggestions? Your help would be muuuuch appreciated.

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  69. @ Anonymous:

    Starve a fever. Seriously, fasting is the best thing you can do when you have a fever, IMO.

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  70. Drink garlic infused cat's claw tea with a dash of cayenne pepper and coconut oil while taking a hot bath that contains a mixture of sea salt, baking soda and apple cider vinegar!

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  71. Drink garlic infused cat's claw tea with a dash of cayenne pepper and coconut oil while taking a hot bath that contains a mixture of sea salt, baking soda and apple cider vinegar…with one finger in your ear while standing on one leg….during a full moon! lol

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  72. OK, among all these serious remedies here is something crazy to try: Sit in the hottest bath you can stand (2-3 inches deep) for five minutes. You should be sweating and uncomfortable and triggering that fight or flight instinct. Make sure your forearms are submerged the whole five minutes. It works. Don't ask me why but it does.

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  73. Re: I am going to drop soap as I didnt wash my face last night and my condition did not get worse, it looks calm and moist.

    If not using soap EVCO is really great (its naturally antibacterial) I used extra-virgin coconut oil daily (morning and night) for almost a year on my face and skin and it has helped so much with everything (acne, eczema, pre-mature aging…) While real Will recommends washing off the coconut oil so your face isn't "shiny", I slather that stuff (massage it in a little) all over and within 5-10 minutes my skin absorbs it perfectly (no shine or grease). It looks great and has helped so much! Hope this helps :)

    Oh and where has CHIEF been? I miss his discussions…

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  75. Ana, that's been my experience too. After a few weeks with no soap my skin was the best that it's been since I was 14. It soaks in quick. I usually put it on at night or first thing in the morning. But of course with all things, your mileage may vary.

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  76. Re the fever… When my girls get high fevers I wrap their feet in a paper towel soaked in egg whites. Then I put a plastic bag over their feet and let them rest.

    Sounds weird but it works! Found it on http://www.earthclinic.com

    That site is great for good alternative treatments.

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  77. I inadvertently stopped using soap on my face about 10 years ago (I'm mid-thirties), just kind of omitted that step in the A.M. hygiene routine, probably out of sheer 'shit-I've got to be ____ in ___ minutes'laziness.

    I never had great skin as a teen or early adult. Hell, I don't have great skin now, but it's better than it used to be, I'd call it good. Can't remember any normalization-type period, but for what it's worth I don't have trusted friends coming to me telling me, "I need to talk to you about your face."

    I soap a majority of the rest of my body, at least the real dirty parts, am targeting a few new (and out of the way) areas for trial soap cessation. I don't expect any miracles out of it, but I do anticipate having yet more anecdotal proof that soap is, in many cases, unnecessary.

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  78. What about the scratchy throat and stuffy nose? My abdomenals are starting to get sore from all this coughing -_-

    - Fever girl.

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  79. Guy with the folliculitis here.

    Thanks for all the replies. I actually didn't think my post went through haha… went online tonight and there it was!

    Anyway… havent washed my face or let water touch it since Tuesday and my skin looks incredible. Only 1 folliculitis spot in the upper lip.

    I have some serious flaking in the upper lip area, which makes me think the folliculitis had a strong fungal and bacterial component combined. Instead, I use a baby brush on my dry skin to lightly get rid of the flakes and then aplly this new stuff called Microcyn which is a gel made of water, essentialy, that acts like bleach and it's incredibly gentle on the skin… they use it on diabetic uclers and it basically kills everything in 30 seconds and stimulates your skins own immune system and repairing.

    So far so good, hopefully down the road I can discontinue the Microcyn, I imagine in a few weeks time. The lower cheek/jaw areas where I first had the folliculitis haven't out at all and arent really flaking either.

    Knock on wood!

    Also been doing hyperbaric oxygen therapy… supposedly it's good for infections.. this could be helping?

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  80. I never use soap in the shower, just use this liquid made from boiling wash nuts for my hair. I also shower only every couple of days or sometimes even once a week, especially during the colder season. Maybe you'll say it's gross, but my body doesn't smell bad. Actually I don't notice any difference between showering every day and showering every 3-4 days. It's different in tropical climate, though.

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  81. About soaking the rice in warm water, there is one issue that could be problematic. I've read up about making yogurt from nutmilks and coconut milk before, and I also read that you should not use rice milk because some dangerous fermentation can happen. I looked it up and there is some bacteria in rice that is closely related to the koji bacteria (the stuff in miso and sake), but it's harmful instead of beneficient. I looked it up on wikipedia and all, but I don't remember how to find it now.

    Since the warm soaking water is very unlikely to become as warm as yogurt making temperature, this might not be a big issue, however. On the other hand, brown rice contains comparably few antinutrients, so it might not even be necessary to soak it that much. Maybe soaking it for a few hours to help it get soft quicker in cooking is enough.

    That said, I'm not a big fan of brown rice… I prefer the taste of white rice by far. Parboiled is also ok, but white tastes best. When I used to be macrobiotic, though, I ate it every day…

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  82. I think that soaked brown rice tastes a bit more like white rice. As for temps, soaking is akin to sprouting and sprouting requires warmth.

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  83. Debbie, could you post a link to that video of you? I couldn't find it via your blog.

    Good luck on the RRARF btw. I can totally recommend it! :)

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  84. Lisa E:
    Thanks for asking, I am so behind on blogging but here is the link to see me in action telling the story of my leukemia and my use of raw foods, now Real Foods to heal and have a good life!
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-cb9CnYH7s

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  85. Ian Cruikshank doesn't recommend brown rice because brown rice has 2% of its Calories as PUFAs. He then compares it to white rice which has only 0.4% of its Calories as PUFAs. He then refers to a study that rats which are fed 3% of PUFAs developed cancer. He argues that it's risky to eat brown rice as your main source of Calories because you can easily achieve 3% of PUFAs if you're not careful enough.

    And then Ian has apparently retracted his stance. He revised his HED guidelines and allowed brown rice to his equation. Because he values freedom. Because the hates limitations. Because he values dietary sustainability, palatability, and universality. Ian is a great man who has overcame his limitations.

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  86. Ana,

    I aint going no where ..lol
    not a whole lot of internet cafes in between Anchorage and Vancouver…lol

    the only thing i have to add is i only use shaving products i make myself and never put soap on my face since i was a kid and have rarely had a pimple.
    cant even remember the last one.

    as far as cold remedy ..well, fast if you already have it fasting for a few days kicks sickness in the ass but it's better to prevent it with RARRF ..i haven't had a cold in over three years everyone around me that eats standard got h1n1…. not me :)

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  87. Lorelei,

    I thought about the eating at night thing during my travels in the last few days i wanted to be clear on it.

    I think there is 2 ways to look at it and matt's morning heavy eating has a definite benefit over someone who skips a good breakfast and grabs a cina-bun and a pepsi or just something light ( donut) Instead.

    and in a way heavy protein in the morning is similar to a fast if you avoid carbs during the day and refeed to make up at night but for the most part if you are not doing the average "amish paradise" breakfast and lunch are far from necessary and may be getting in the way of weight loss and health goals for some that have a very low energy demand in their daily work.

    As an alternative to night binge eating breakfast is far better but eventually it can be drifted to mostly at night once things are in order. Either way if its a big breakfast or big supper the one thing is certain avoiding deprivation is more important than when you do it.

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  88. My profile pics are back today, wonder if they'll stay.
    I wanted to add my two cents to the washing comments.
    I believe even getting water on the face is bad for the skin, warm water worse because it removes the oils even more. Really only a coalminer/demolition person needs to wash their face. If anybody here has facial skin problems just try giving it a go, keeping water off your face altogether for a month< I'll bet you'll see improvements! I find coconut oil very nice for my skin- but if you don't wash your face you won't need to moisturise it. If you absolutely MUST wash your face use cold water only and dry immediately. I've tried a French green clay mask and it is good for deep cleaning. But contrary to the usual advice you must not allow the mask to dry-thats when it will pull the oils from the face. It can be washed off with cold water. I moisturise with coconut oil both before and after applying the mask. If a person is washing their bits every day (as they should!) there is no reason to shower or bathe more than once a week. The generation of vitamin d on the skin is dependent on skin oils being pre-existant on the skin, vit d will not generate on freshly cleansed skin. Life guards in Australia were found to be vit d deficient because they were in the habit of showering and thereby washing the d off- it takes up to an hour to be absorbrd.

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  89. Sydney, very good point about vitamin d i recently advised a friend not to hop in the shower right away after a hike and they looked at me like i was crazy ..lol

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  90. @Lorelei aka Hawaiigirl said…

    Ezekial has some form of soy in it, which keeps us eating it once a week at most.

    *Update*…it had slipped my mind, but I was at the store the other day and I remembered that Food for Life (who makes Ezekial Bread) also makes a "7 Grain Sprouted Bread" which is basically the same as Ezekial bread, except it doesn't have soy in it. Hope this helps.

    Thanks!

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  91. In regards to the Australian Life Guards being Vit D deficient it was for two reasons – They were using sunscreen and washing/showering with soap.

    If you only wash arm pits/privates with soap and just rinse the rest with water then the Vit D won't get rubbed off, plus you will smell fresh.

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  92. I have a gripe about the much loved Jon Gabriel. In the interview that was discussed recently, it was mentioned, off the cuff, that at the airport Jon had removed the bread from a salad sandwich because it "tastes like cardboard" to him now (from memory). Well sorry but that has been irritating me and I'm calling B.S on this whole thing. Guess what? People eat bread because it tastes good, really good. This comment to me just reeks of an eating disorder from miles away. You know, the kind of eating disorder that provides the incredible willpower and obsession that is required of the formerly obese to remain so. As far as I can gather he has these people virtually on a low-calorie all you can eat lettuce diet. Of course they're going to see fast weight loss (at first!). Perhaps Gabriel's astonishing success is due to him being in that freakish 1% that actually has the steely dedication to sustain his low calorie salad affair. Let's not forget he is a very smart businessman selling a product. Holding him up as the no-diet guy when clearly he is a strict low-cal or even low-carber is therefore nothing but a cruel joke.

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  93. Actually I don't think bread tastes really good. Whole grain rye bread tastes good, maybe really good depending on the quality. Fresh chapati can taste good. But the white flour sandwich bread truly tastes like cardboard if you're used to eating real food. I don't know about Jon Gabriel but I don't think you can draw such a conclusion from that statement.

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  94. So why don't you see people all over the place discarding the bread on their sandwich because they "don't like the taste"? It's just completely off, sorry. Bread tastes good because the polysaccharides are broken down by the saliva and the sugars thus contact the taste buds. Give a kid a sandwich. Watch them discard the interior and eat the bread. Even if you're not a huge fan of bread, why, if you supposedly aren't on a restrictive diet, would you buy a fricken sandwich and be pedantic enough to eschew the bread? Paranoia about weight gain. Normal people do not do that!

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  95. If you are used to eating real food, unprocessed food, from real ingredients, the bread from a sandwich purchased at an airport (likely very processed with unreal ingredients) is not going to taste good. If you are used to eating processed food with chemicals, like most people are, the bread will taste good. I agree with Hans on this one.

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  96. HI gang
    Checking on , I have been doing RRARF since Nov 1. So far so good, I find the better my sleep is, the higher my morning temp is. Stress seems to lower my number also.
    Eating this way is new for me.. and I am really doing pretty well. The greens are the hardest but I am planning on precutting, making a basic salad mix and doing it that way this week.
    Lots of yams, lots of salmon, eggs, BUTTER, I love butter.
    Anyone using Kombucha?
    I like it diluted.
    that's all for now,
    deb

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  97. DEB you mean october 1st right ?
    lol good stuff

    Anonymous …anyone that signs in here without a name, just to let you can set up a google account in 3 mins dont be lazy it helps in discussions following people. for all we know there could be 50 different people all lumped in to this voltron like entity called anonymous.

    all in all I think the beef with Jon Gabriel is nit picky.

    1.) I think he he could just as easily make his body run on more calories.
    i might not have been a 400 pounder but the ratio means nothing. I certainly don't eat a low calorie diet and maintain rather well and have seen many people do the same. I think 90 plus percent of people can achieve this. not a freakish 1 percent.
    if you can let go of pop culture you can achieve it.

    2.) I think peoples taste change, I think some bread taste good .. alot of it doesn't to me anymore.
    i have been out in the boonies without it for a while and just ordered a few things with bread one day along my travels( every once in a while i eat an anything goes junk day) and I didn't like any of it at all… I most definitely do not dodge carbs on the daily.

    I do agree he is selling a product and good at business but alot of what he is saying is balls on, no other book i have come across is closer to the real deal.

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  98. well now looky here, I did mean Oct 1. See, I am a spa person now, spacy and lazy when typing.
    My bad Chief, glad to see you and your biceps are back from the wild.
    xo

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  99. Debbie, it was great to hear you talk about your journey in the video.

    It's always great for me to see other people's journeys into the alternative health world. It helps remind me that I'm not alone on my journey of trial and errors. I agree so much that it's about creating community, increasing our environmental consciousness, taking more personal responsibility, and taking our power back.

    I also loved your Deepak Chopra quote:
    "Every decision you make is a choice between a grievance and a miracle. I relinquish all regrets, resentments and grievances and choose a miracle."

    It's a great mantra and one that might benefit me. I feel I've done so many mistakes on my healing journey and I often spend energy beating myself up over it.

    I could also relate a lot to the whole "overdoing it" thing, and getting "greedy". It so easily happens.

    Debbie, may you live to be one hundred years old and continue sharing your wisdom with us. I'm so glad you're doing so well!

    Here's the link to the video again for anyone who didn't see it!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-cb9CnYH7s

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  100. Anonymous- Welcome to 180degreehealth! I am guessing you are new because if you were familiar enough with this site you would know that: people DO NOT permanently lose weight on calorie restricted diets. Period. Calorie restricted diets ultimately lower the metabolism and put a lot of stress on the body, making it prone to fat storage. So your argument for bashing Jon Gabriel is far from logical- especially in this blog where we discuss this over and over. To lose a significant amount of weight like Gabriel (over a hundred pounds!) restricting one’s diet isn’t going to work- Gabriel I believe mentioned trying calorie restriction without success. Weight comes off naturally when one is nourished in both body and mind. And I also have to say that ever since I have been eating whole foods my taste buds have learned to detect real foods and I no longer care for a lot of things such as sugar or (gasp!) bread. I now tend to crave foods that nourish me rather than wanting to binge on junk food. Bread may taste great but since my body does not benefit from eating it, it has learned to stop wanting it. As you should know, taste is not a universal thing- some cultures eat bugs as a common practice (great source of protein). Yet, Americans as far as I know, find this disgusting (at least I do). Yet according to your argument, all Americans have an eating disorder because we avoid eating bugs?? Let’s be logical in our arguments please.

    Deb- I am so happy to hear that you are doing better! I saw your video on whole foods and I hope you make a full recovery!

    Hi Chief!! Glad to hear back from you! Good discussions once again.

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  101. So much to comment on. Chief:

    I agree, Gabriel has much to offer. He has some BS in his book (take probiotics, fish oil and don't eat too many carbs) but the most important thing he offers is the reprogramming the brain. That is what he has done, and yes, I think he has conned himself into not liking bread. Personally I think a well-made white bread is the shiz. A local bakery makes a classic pan sliced white sandwich bread that is so yummy I eat is with butter, salt and pepper and crusts cut off. It's very Oscar Wilde. I've had white bread rolls that were so toothsome and sweet that they were more powerfully awesome and addictive than donuts. I don't think eating a bit of white bread now and again is the end of the world. Lot of people around the world seem to do so just fine. The garbage that you get at your average supermarket that full of chemicals and HFCS is just the sort of thing you should be trying to trick yourself into thinking is crawling with maggots (which was one of Gabriel's techniques for getting past his bread cravings.)

    Gabriel is in the 1% of people that has kicked morbid obesity, but he didn't do it through will power. He talks a lot about how he failed repeatedly with low carb and all other kinds of diets because he just couldn't hack it.

    Hans, I think showering and bathing daily are pretty ridiculous. I bathe right after my workouts and I take a few baths a week to relax or whatever. I wash my hair once a week. This is a big part of how I defeated my scalp problems. All those shampoos and products and even water just don't help. Your skin cleans itself pretty much. My daily ablutions are little sponge baths or spot cleaning as needed. I don't wash my face at all unless I'm out in the garden, on a dusty country road or in a very polluted city. I honestly think that one of the reasons teenagers all have acne is that they are all overly obsessed with hygene. It's partly because what stands for health/sex education in the country amounts to "if boys don't like you, maybe it's because you smell bad." Partly it's just herd mentality. I think when I was 15 I took three showers a day. I went on a long camping trip where I wasn't allowed to bathe and I was amazed that my skin looked perfect, much better than at home. I chocked this up to all the fresh air and exercise, but really I think it was just that I wasn't dousing my self in phisoderm three times a day.

    I mostly using bathing as me time in the cheesy "Calgon bath" type way and I find it to be a huge stress reliever. But having to get up early to shower and wash my hair? Uggh that just adds stress. By the way, my hairdresser says I have the healthiest hair of any of her clients. Who would've thought that of someone who used to scrub daily with prescription dandruff shampoo?

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  102. "I have some serious flaking in the upper lip area, which makes me think the folliculitis had a strong fungal and bacterial component combined. Instead, I use a baby brush on my dry skin to lightly get rid of the flakes and then aplly this new stuff called Microcyn which is a gel made of water, essentialy, that acts like bleach and it's incredibly gentle on the skin… they use it on diabetic uclers and it basically kills everything in 30 seconds and stimulates your skins own immune system and repairing."

    Yes, I think the redness is definitely an irritation caused by bacteria. This is what my dermotologist told me. This time of year is particularly bad in this part of the world, I understand. I'm glad your condition is getting better. Keep working on it and know that diet, stress and metabolism effect the epidermis as it is an organ of the body. I weaned my self off all the skin medications and I'm sure you will too.

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  103. Hey Lisa E, Thanks! That quote took me through some dark days after diagnosis.. and it still keeps me afloat today. I hope I can live to be 100 so I can bug the shit out of Matt for a good long time :)
    Ana: Thanks So Much! I focus on living with cancer, not 'curing' it… mine is slow and low.. like to keep it that way and die from like a rock falling on my head whilst hiking in Switzerland or something exciting like that not stupid leukemia.

    Great info gang, I do shower but I do use coconut oil all over my body. If butter was cheaper I would use that, esp raw cultured butter. Look at my profile on FB to get that inside joke :)
    Ah, butter, it full of possiblites.
    love deb

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  104. Hey Jenny, I'm thinking about going shampoo free soon. I wanted to know if you use anything else besides water when you do your weekly hair washing. Thanks.

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  105. jenny nipper ,
    i agree it is easy to con ones self. He has most likely done this as well. i think he has done this with his salad eating mentality.

    i think his fish oil thing for someone that is highly out of balance it can be helpful though.

    i also have seen people's health change drastically with probiotics. Not saying there is not other alternatives but overall his target market ( near morbid obese and above) it makes pretty good sense to me.

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  106. Anonymous- Welcome to 180degreehealth! I am guessing you are new because if you were familiar enough with this site you would know that: people DO NOT permanently lose weight on calorie restricted diets. Period. Calorie restricted diets ultimately lower the metabolism and put a lot of stress on the body, making it prone to fat storage. So your argument for bashing Jon Gabriel is far from logical- especially in this blog where we discuss this over and over. To lose a significant amount of weight like Gabriel (over a hundred pounds!) restricting one’s diet isn’t going to work- Gabriel I believe mentioned trying calorie restriction without success. Weight comes off naturally when one is nourished in both body and mind. And I also have to say that ever since I have been eating whole foods my taste buds have learned to detect real foods and I no longer care for a lot of things such as sugar or (gasp!) bread. I now tend to crave foods that nourish me rather than wanting to binge on junk food. Bread may taste great but since my body does not benefit from eating it, it has learned to stop wanting it. As you should know, taste is not a universal thing- some cultures eat bugs as a common practice (great source of protein). Yet, Americans as far as I know, find this disgusting (at least I do). Yet according to your argument, all Americans have an eating disorder because we avoid eating bugs?? Let’s be logical in our arguments please.

    Deb- I am so happy to hear that you are doing better! I saw your video on whole foods and I hope you make a full recovery!

    Hi Chief!! Glad to hear back from you! Good discussions once again.

    I am not new, more like a serial lurker. Anyway, you seem to have missed the whole point (or maybe half of it). The point is that calorie restricted diets do work, but people eventually fall off them and gain back all the weight plus more, as you have pointed out. I postulate that Gabriel is deathly afraid of bread due to his knowledge of this effect. For example, having a little might send someone on calorie restriction into a huge binge. Maybe he is one of the very very very few who manage to stick to a low calorie diet. Only time will tell, I suppose. If you ate a whole foods diet with plenty of calories, yes, maybe you wouldn't mind going without bread since you are wholly satisfied. You also wouldn't bother removing the bread from your store bought sandwich, which is just completely neurotic. My theory is if you tried giving Gabriel a baked potato with butter all over it he would have a panic attack.

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  107. Serial lurker,

    In reading your comment about the 1 percent only being able to succeed I assume you feel you are not part of that one percent. I hope lurking eventually allow you to realize it's most likely only 1 percent who is doomed to be fat not the other way around and you canbe in that 99 percentile if you so choose.

    how do you explain my case or those i have produced the similar results for? I don't feel I'm some isolated case at all as i was fat in my opinion i could have eventually been like Mr gabriel but i routinely get insane looks from buffet waitresses these days.
    Ill gladly help you for a one time fee of free-99. if your afraid to put your story online u and anyone else can reach me here : justaskchief@gmail (DOT )com

    My theory is if Mr gabriel hung out with me for a while he would scarf 2 baked potatoes but …. ask for another tab of butter before…..

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  108. It appears that essiac tea's primary actions are to remove heavy metals, detoxify the body, restore energy levels, and rebuild the immune system, all act to restore the body to a level to where it is able to better defeat the illness using it's own resources.

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  109. Nin Jiom Pei Pa Koa (ninjiom-hk.cwahi.net) may be another choice. i know alot of people use it, its also non alcoholic, though it's effectiveness is not as good as alcohol based cough medicine, but it's still good to use on not so serious scratchy throat.

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