I don’t know what ketogenic means, I’ll have to look it up. I wanted to respond about the low carb. I mentioned before that I tried low carb a few years back when I first noticed I was gaining weight. I was up 3 lbs while eating wap style & everyone was on the low carb bandwagon. It didn’t work for me. A couple weeks ago I went to a family thing & saw my brother whom I hadn’t seen since last year. He was a little bit pudgy at the time, but now he looks great! He told me he low carbs & works out. He lost 20 lbs doing this. So it works for him, but I don’t know what the long term consequence will be. Since I have been depressed about my belly fat which seems determined to stay, I thought about trying it again. I decided not to; it didn’t work before, & I don’t want to restrict foods. I am also dealing with stress issues, some I have no control over.