March 20, 2014 at 9:37 am #15990EmgeeParticipant
Is this normal? I was initially interested in Matt’s ideas because my body temp has been low as far back as I can remember… I never really tested it much, but 97 was normal for me, even 96 point whatever wouldn’t have surprised me.
This is my first day on RRARF and I’ve taken my temp 3 times today:
7:30 am – 36.25
12:40 pm – 36.2
3:27 pm – 37.2
(those are Celsius, not Fahrenheit)
I was so shocked to see the mercury past the 37 mark (98.6)! In the past, if I had a temp this high, I would be feeling awful, but right now I feel fine, if not a bit bogged down by all the food.
Is this normal to see results so fast? I am 38 weeks pregnant, in case anyone is wondering where I am in my cycle.March 20, 2014 at 8:14 pm #15999vidParticipant
I’m sorry that I cant answer your question, but what is RRAFF? I’m new to the list. ThanksMarch 20, 2014 at 8:34 pm #16000TinaTParticipant
RRARF = Rehabilitative Rest and Aggressive Re-Feeding
As for increasing temps like that, no, I don’t think it’s unusual.
I track two different temperatures:
(#2 from info found here: http://www.drrind.com/therapies/metabolic-temperature-graph)
1) first thing in the morning, your resting temp – this is best if it’s even before you get out of bed.
2) and average of readings from 11am, 2pm and 5pm
I’ve been charting them.
Since I started, I only have one average (#2) temp below 98.0F: the first one, which was 97.6. Day 2 was 98.0, Day 4 98.2, Day 5 98.7. I bounced between 98.6 and 99.1 for a few weeks, then dropped to 98.0-98.5 for a few weeks, and now am back over 98.6.
My #1 temps hovered around 97.9-98.1 for a few days, the jumped up from 97.9 one day to 98.9 the next – and then stayed at 98.6 or better for a long time.
Temps move around all over the place during the day – before/after you eat and before/after exercise, for sure.
Today my temp is over 99F… but I also have the sniffles, so I think I’m fighting off a cold… :(
April 19, 2014 at 8:17 am #16192
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I’m worried about this too. My temps stay around 97.4-97.7 through out the day but after I train it drops down to 95.2 and then today after I ate my post workout meal, I dropped even more to 93.1!! I was so scared!! I’m not sure if that is normal when you are just starting out.April 19, 2014 at 5:31 pm #16196TinaTParticipant
Is that you in your avatar??
If it is… and if I followed your intro remarks correctly… it sounds like you have trained your body to exist on a very low amount of calorie intake – while building muscle… which tells me you have trained your body to have a VERY SLOW metabolism – which would agree with the temps you’re measuring.
What are your goals for yourself at this point?
If it’s simply to ‘be warm’ – you might try mixing in more carbs (even whole grains would be a start) and drinking less water (if you’ve been over-doing it). See if you can stoke your body into rev’ving up the heat a bit. If you want to really dive in to E4H, indulge in a few slices of pizza, and see how you feel afterwards, then LISTEN to your body and see what it’d like you to do next.
At least… that’s my un-educated recommendation… you might also want to talk to a professional for some real advice. :)April 19, 2014 at 7:26 pm #16198
Yes TinaT, this is me at my last competition Aug 2013. I do train really heavy and for about 2 hours a day but during competition prep I never went below 2800 calories, right now I am suppose to start prep for the same competition but then I started randomly reading Diet Recovery and now I am on the fence about what to do. I have been eating about 3000-3500 calories a day, I don’t track outside of prep but I normally eat all the same foods and I add in more treats and don’t care so much about portion control. I have been following the Fighter Diet principles and although my carbs have been high (one head of cabbage has 70 grams) 90% of my carbs are vegetables. I usually end the day with about 300-400 grams of carbs. I have definitely been drinking too much water. That is the symptom that really caught my attention that I might have damaged my metabolism. I just assumed I was doing everything right. Lots of calories, lots of carbs, lots of water… I never guessed I was over doing anything, I didn’t think that was possible. I really appreciate you taking the time to give me your opinion. Since I am so new to this and am still in shock that I have done this to myself, your opinion means a lot to me. Thank youApril 19, 2014 at 11:40 pm #16200
Do you blow-up (so to speak) after competitions? What kind of post-competition weight gain do you experience?April 19, 2014 at 11:46 pm #16201
Also, are you sure your thermometer is correct? I would buy a new one just to compare. If your current thermometer is incorrect, you could be concerned over nothing.April 20, 2014 at 2:54 am #16202
Hi Leighton, those were my first two competitions (july 27 and aug 3 of 2013) I didn’t ‘blow up” but I did intentionally gain 20 pounds (over the course of the last six months) 5 of that was water weight and the other 15 was intentional. I have been trying to gain muscle since the last competition and feel as though most my weight is muscle and maybe only 5 pounds of fat gain. I can still see my abs and that has been my ‘staying within my limits’ determinate. I will buy another thermometer and see how they compare. Thank you for the suggestionApril 20, 2014 at 1:23 pm #16203
The reason I asked about the post-competition weight gain is because that seems to be a decent indicator of if, and how badly, someone beat their body up during the prep phases. Your intentional weight gain is absolutely not what I was talking about; I was referring to the crazy 20 pounds that a lot of people who compete put on in the first week post-competition. The fact that you didn’t experience that either time is great! I just wonder if your thermometer is off.
Sorry, I’m sure you already knew what I mentioned above, I just wanted to throw it out there. Are you working with a strength and conditioning coach? Have you run all this by him/her/them?
Cheers!April 21, 2014 at 5:40 am #16205
Oh no, I totally understand and I took no offense to your question. I know a lot of people that it has happened to and have read millions of horror stories. I was taking a supplement called Detonate and I think that might have been the root cause of my problem. I am stationed overseas with my husband in Japan and unfortunately, the thermometer I have right now is the only one they sell here on base. I might try to order another online but I think that if I stick with the small changes I have made lately, no caffeine, more saturated fat, less water, more salt, then I will continue to see improvements. I do weight train really intensely and so I have cut back on that slightly. I am seeing progress in the short amount of time I have made these changes. I am not working with any strength or conditioning coach because I am one of three personal trainers on our base (and I personally wouldn’t pay money to train with the other two) and I am hesitate to find someone over the internet. I did all my prep completely by myself. I thought I knew a lot about nutrition until I started reading Diet Recovery and it was literally like my world was thrown upside down. I am currently reading Eat for Heat and cant wait to start implementing more changes. I am really hoping that maybe I just over reacted and my metabolism isn’t as bad as I first thought. I will continue to mover forward with Matt’s advice either way because I can only get better at this point. Thank you for your concern and your response. I’m very new to all this and it means a lot that someone would respond to what I had to say and offer up assistance.April 21, 2014 at 2:09 pm #16206blurgParticipant
Not sure if it would make much of difference but Matt says cruciferous vegetables like cabbage are anti-metobolic because they contain goitrogens which can affect your thyroid. I still eat them but only a small amount occasionally – a head of cabbage a day might be way too much. If your thyroid was messed up though I doubt you’d have the physique you do.
Is there a clinic you can have someone check your temp too?April 24, 2014 at 4:12 am #16217
Oh wow! I had no idea! I haven’t read that yet since I just started Eat for Heat. That’s crazy cause I have been eating mass amounts of vegetables for the last year and a half. I did go to the clinic and get my temp checked and it was 98.0. I’ve only been over 98 a couple of times in this last week and a half so I am wondering if my thermometer is off. I think now I am a little less freaked out about all this. I still get cold hands and feet but I am going to continue to implement matt’s advice as much as I can. I am entering into competition prep again and I am hoping that with his advice, I will have a better chance at keeping my metabolism as high as possible.
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