July 24, 2013 at 1:14 am #9894
Right on. I’m not a fan of neither white nor “whole wheat” food items but different strokes for different folks. I must say though my fiber intake is monstrous and it would probably destroy a “normal” person in short order. I don’t count fiber but its between 60-100g’s a day, its glorious.
I have also experienced the same thing you have where I’ve lost any desire for high-fat foods or junk food. They don’t seem appealing at all and the only time I wanted to eat them was when I was on a low carb diet, go figure.July 24, 2013 at 2:04 am #9896
That is a lot of fiber! Is that mainly from fruit? Many years ago, I was successful on a diet that combined meat with tons of fruit (I eventually gave up the diet because of cost and inconvenience). My digestion was pretty good despite all the fruit fiber. With fiber from beans, nuts, and whole grains, however, I get ripped up.
I used to always love chicken skin more than the meat. But when I’m eating a very high carb diet, the skin actually disgusts me. I was shocked when I discovered that.July 24, 2013 at 11:20 am #9923
Hey David. Yeah, 2/rds of my carbohydrate intake is coming from various fruits and the rest coming from potatoes/rice/and vegetables. I too do not dig beans, nuts, whole grains. I must say the more fruits and vegetables I throw down the more amazing I feel. It is somewhat expensive as sometimes I go for conventional produce but I try to get the ones that are lowest in pesticides. Organic being ideal. Digestion is in tip top shape.
Yeah, I’m back into buying frozen chicken breasts. I thought they sucked when I was on a high fat diet but they’re rather cheap and if marinaded properly can be pretty good.July 24, 2013 at 12:25 pm #9928lounieParticipant
It is good to know that I may lose my taste for fat!
Though weight is not that much of an issue for me, I do have a problem with body fat percent and typical aging complaints – sagging, loose skin; brain fog and memory problems. I’ve never had great skin but my memory used to be really great, hopefully adopting a healthier diet will help. Whatever is good for the body has to be good for the brain too.July 24, 2013 at 3:50 pm #9943
@Charlie- I have a lot of respect for the kind of diet you’re eating. My own diet is probably similar in the macros–it’s just that I’m eating the cheap, simple, refined version. Instead of potatoes and vegetables, I’m eating a lot of pasta and bread, and instead of tons of fruit, I’m drinking a hell ton of soda. I figure that if I can achieve good health on a diet that is over 50% white flour, white rice, and high fructose corn syrup, then I’ve proven that it’s carbohydrates (rather than any particular vitamins, minerals, antioxidants, etc.) that are truly health promoting. Obviously, vitamin deficiencies are possible in a truly limited diet, but I think they’re pretty rare. People grow up eating McDonald’s and never lack for a single nutrient (even if they do get fat).
@Lounie- When I switch macro ratios, the shift in taste preference is drastic and almost immediate. I’d be interested to hear if you experience the same thing. On a super high carb diet, I also have fewer cravings for lots of spice. I start to prefer simpler flavors, which makes cooking much faster and easier.July 24, 2013 at 6:44 pm #9953lukesterParticipant
I find if my fat intake goes under 15% of my calories my skin and hair start drying out. Hair become harder to form with gel and wrinkles start appearing. Sure I have a lot of energy and lose weight even if I don’t need to but I want the best of both worlds. Even with high protein this occurs in my physique. I tend to do best in the 20-25% range in the fat department and that is awesome since the foods I naturally eat come close to this balance. Experiment and see what works for you! Glad people posting here are benefiting from more carbs, thats awesome. So far I have been tracking a bit on myfitnesspal and noticed my macros be 55% carbs, 25% fat and 20 percent protein. Works fantastic for me.July 24, 2013 at 7:28 pm #9960
Yeah, I’ve heard other people say they don’t feel right if their fat intake gets to low. Out of curiosity, do you have a pretty low body fat percentage? I’ve got a bit of a beer belly right now, and I wonder if that might explain my success on very-low-fat diet. There’s probably less need to eat fat if you can just burn it off your gut.July 24, 2013 at 8:26 pm #9964
I should also note that I’m pretty laid back about what I eat. I aim for low fat, but I’ll toss in a bit of oil or cheese to certain dishes, just for flavor. And if I’m out with friends and everyone wants pizza, then I’m happy go along with it. So my dietary fat percentage might actually be 15%, which isn’t nearly as low as some people.July 25, 2013 at 12:38 am #9985
Interesting Lukester. My two-cents: I only had relatively dry skin when my water intake was high which was reversed when I cut down on the water. My hair has been growing very fast and strong despite scant fat intake.July 25, 2013 at 6:39 pm #10051lukesterParticipant
I’m currently at 11-12 percent body fat. David so for your protein meals would that consist of chicken, cod, tuna, egg whites, tofu, skim-1% milk, whey shakes? These all contain low fat. Or do you keep your protein relatively low also?
Charlie great to hear your health is doing great. I love the fact that high carbs provide a ton of energy for doing daily tasks and activities.July 26, 2013 at 1:18 am #10067
With your BF% that low, it doesn’t surprise me that you need dietary fat more than a guy like me, since I’m carrying a few extra pounds. I can’t back that up with studies, but it makes intuitive sense.
For protein, I eat mainly chicken breast, lean steak, fish, and skim milk. I also eat a bit of cheese and fattier meats when I feel like it, but they’re not a significant source of calories. I probably eat about 1-1.5 pounds of meat a day.
I’ve tried a HC-LF-LP diet (both 30bad and McDougall style), but neither worked for me at all. It’s become clear to me that higher protein foods are an essential component of a high carbohydrate diet. Without protein, I quickly lose my appetite and become fatigued.May 17, 2014 at 2:02 am #16431s33dParticipant
I’ve seen Dr. Garret say on FB that an adult male should get at least 50-65 grams of fat a day, otherwise it could effect hormone production. This is an old topic, but if anyone is still interested.
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