October 26, 2013 at 1:27 pm #13370saisriceParticipant
Caz, I have to disagree that eating for heat is the easy way out and makes you fat and lazy. I know everyone is different and I’m happy you’ve found what works for you but I wanted to say my experience since it was very scary for me to change my eating and exercise habits and I don’t want others to feel like eating for heat is destined to make you fat and lazy.
Prior to eating for heat/eating following the youreatopia guidelines, I tried everything to restore my health. I ate very healthy and exercised. I meditated and went to therapy. Nothing worked for me except a lot more and resting. It was so scary and was definitely not the easy way out. It was horrible and hard to gain weight and I wasn’t under weight to begin with. I was just a normal/thin weight. I cried all the time and my husband was a huge support.
A few months after eating that way I naturally started eating more fruits, veggies, salads and getting my carbs from sweet potatoes, potatoes and traditionally prepared grains and beans. I also began to exercise more. I had lots of energy and my body felt great eating that way and that was what I craved. I did eat dessert sometimes and didn’t really think too much about it. My stress around food was very minimal. I stopped taking my temperature and just knew that my metabolism was in a good place. My body was in perfect health and perfect balance and while I wasn’t thin I wasn’t overweight either. I know that my body will find it’s healthy place again.
My goal for this was to regain my period and get pregnant and i know that eating this way and resting allowed me to do that. Today I’m almost 2 months pregnant and my pregnancy is perfect according to the doctor. My tastes have changed again and you couldn’t pay me to eat a sweet potato. It was a little stressful for me to think of eating mostly grains because I still have so much old paleo/weston a price info in my head but honestly meat and anything sprouted or soaked makes me want to throw up. I’m in a very happy place with my body and food and have no doubt that after I give birth that my body will go back to a healthy/thin place. That’s what happened to me the first time I gave birth and I have no doubt that it will happen again since my metabolism is in a good place and I am nourishing my body and mind.
I know this is totally of topic of cheese slave’s weight loss but I just wanted to offer a different perspective. To me being this doesn’t have to be hard and I know for me that I’m able to achieve my ideal body when I’m working less and just living life and trusting that my body automatically processes the food I eat to maintain my perfect weight. The less I think about eating healthy and exercising and just focus on things I enjoy (food and movement) the better of I am.October 26, 2013 at 3:00 pm #13372prancieParticipant
I too have to disagree, eating a healthy amount of calories and getting enough rest does not make one fat and lazy. Rebound weight gain from restrictive eating can make one “fat” but not lazy. Lazy is a state of mind, and extended lethargy means something is wrong.October 26, 2013 at 5:12 pm #13401
One difficulty I’ve noticed in these forums is that people are approaching the overfeeding regimen from so many different backgrounds. What works for someone who’s recovering from an eating disorder won’t necessarily work for someone who’s already overweight, and vice versa. Many people feel better after a period of feeding and rest, and others feel better when they start to watch what they eat and exercise. It really depends on your starting point.
Caz didn’t call anyone else lazy. She said that she tried this approach because of her own laziness, and I don’t think there’s any reason to question her sincerity about that. Truthfully, I also find eating and resting easier than cutting calories and exercising–and I wish overfeeding were the answer for me, but it’s not. We all have to do what works for us to achieve our goals in health, energy, and appearance. There’s no reason to expect it will be the same for everybody.October 26, 2013 at 9:13 pm #13409The Real AmyModerator
Saisrice, apologies for not remembering but how did your metabolism become damaged to begin with? So great you have had such good success.
I agree that there are probably some different paths for different people. For people recovering from eating disorders or other starvation situations, eating a lot is totally necessary. I think people who aren’t coming from starvation may need to focus on other areas like stress reduction, emotional work, sleep and exercise.October 27, 2013 at 6:04 pm #13426saisriceParticipant
David, I agree that this approach isn’t for everyone and I also don’t think Caz was being insincere. I was just offering my view. I have no idea what works for certain peoples ailments and I know for me that in the big scheme of things I feel great eating on the more healthy side and exercising.
Amy, my metabolism was damaged from years of undereating. I was bulimic a long time ago and recovered, was very healthy, had a baby, lost a ton of weight nursing and then fell back into orthorexia after finding crossfit and paleo. I think eating low carb was really bad for me. I’m not exactly sure what it was but I know that eating and especially eating carbs is good for me.October 27, 2013 at 6:39 pm #13427
Saisrice- I’m really happy for your success, and I’m glad you shared your personal experience. I only added my (attempt at) mediation because I think many people, including myself, uncritically implemented a re-feeding strategy when underconsumption wasn’t really their issue. That approach can be just as damaging as when an underweight person adopts a paleo diet.
I still have 20-30 pounds left to lose, which is the price I’m paying for my mistake. It’s not that big a deal, but it’s kind of a pain. I want to help people who made the same mistake I did, and I can understand you also want to help others by sharing your amazing results. Hopefully, people reading these threads can determine which approach is more appropriate for them.October 27, 2013 at 6:50 pm #13428
By the way, I should make it clear I’m in no way blaming the 180 philosophy for my unwanted weight gain. I started my binge on my own, simply because I enjoyed the emotional satisfaction of overeating–and it made me feel good. I then tried to justify my behavior by finding a “theory” for it, and that’s when I got into 180. I theorized that I had been underfeeding myself before, but that wasn’t really the case. I misdiagnosed my own problem.October 28, 2013 at 1:09 pm #13434The Real AmyModerator
David, I have a feeling that happens a lot here.
Saisrice, it’s pretty much the opposite of what happened with you. Your body was in starvation mode and you were trying exercise, therapy, meditation, etc. but nothing was working until you just ate the food. Someone who is working night shifts and not sleeping well can do all the overeating they want but it likely won’t heal their metabolism; getting a new day job and changing their schedule likely would. Or someone living a high stress, junk food-filled lifestyle with no time for exercise would experience huge benefits from meditation, exercise and healthier food. Similarly, someone who suffered abuse as a child and has that chronic stress weighing on them every day will probably need to go through therapy and work through it before seeing real health benefits. Overfeeding would likely do more harm than good in each of these scenarios.
It’s all about figuring out what your specific root problem is, which, of course, is not always obvious or easy, especially since we so often prefer (quite often subconsciously) to avoid the root problem.December 19, 2020 at 8:10 pm #18418HersisParticipant
Casein protein shake. Usually have around 40g of casein with water. If you don’t like the taste with water, have it with milk. It will up the calories slightly but that’s fine when you want to gain.
There you go, that’s a good sample of what I eat on a daily basis. That diet right there comes to around 3,350 calories. You can easily adjust the portion sizes to suit your individual calorie needs. If you have any questions post in the comments below https://realweighttraining.com/sample-weight-training-diet-for-muscle-growth
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