July 7, 2013 at 6:10 pm #7595JCarbaholicParticipant
My husband sweats horribly in the summer and even after a cold shower and sitting for awhile in our air conditioned house will keep sweating and feels super hot(he feels this way internally). However, when you touch him he’s feels cold? Any thoughts on why this is? Not enough salt? He doesn’t crave salt though either.July 7, 2013 at 6:25 pm #7598allisonkuzniaParticipant
Is having a high pulse an indicator of a healthy metabolism, just like the high body temperature is? (I don’t remember reading about that part of it.) What number range indicates a high pulse?July 7, 2013 at 9:41 pm #7622cathybParticipant
Hi Matt, do you offer coaching/consultations? Have been Ray Peating for a few months and starvin so bought a few of your bookies but am really confused. I am in Australia. ThanksJuly 8, 2013 at 8:12 pm #7815
Thanks for the snack suggestions all. I definitely need to snack more.
Thanks for the suggestions– I’ve pretty much done all that. Did the sauerkraut, did the HCL (increased, then weaned off), beets don’t turn my pee pink, and I’ve added salt to my drinks for a while now.
I probably should avoid allergens until my metabolism is up (I don’t really believe in the accuracy of those lab allergy tests, but that’s probably another post- and I’ve had muscle testing done to determine allergies… though I don’t necessarily believe in that either). Dairy fat definitely has the strongest effect on my gallbladder, and causes other obvious allergic-type reactions. Interestingly, when I first started having gallbladder issues, I had been off dairy for a long time. Not to say dairy is the only allergen I might have… I did notice that the more things I cut out of my diet, the more allergic-type reactions I got to more things.
And even though dairy causes issues for me, it’s the only thing I crave. I’m trying to re-feed and the only thing I crave is milkshakes and yogurt, even though they don’t make me feel so good. But nothing else sounds good to eat, so I just don’t eat.July 8, 2013 at 8:31 pm #7822
To answer your question about the pulse: Matt generally talks about just measuring your temp to see if your metabolism is low or high- which works for a lot of people. But some of us also need to measure pulse. You can check out Ray Peat’s work if you’re curious- he’s a physiologist- Matt had some posts on him a while ago– maybe around May 2011..?
For me, my temp is always above 98.0, but I still have signs of being hypo-metabolic. My pulse is high– the high temp and high pulse combo can indicate too much adrenaline running in your body (I didn’t eat enough food, so the adrenaline has to kick in so I can continue to function). The adrenaline is pumping up my temp and pulse- so the temp for me is a “false” high. My body likes to try and fake me out.
Peat thinks your pulse should be around 75-85, give or take a few (Danny Roddy, a blogger who follows Peat, says he feels best when his pulse is about 90). Mainstream health folk usually think you’re good if your pulse is in the 60s, which is where it is for a lot of athletes. Peat thinks having a pulse that low is indicative of being hypo-metabolic/hypothyroid.
You kind of have to play with it and see how you feel. If your temps are good and you feel awesome and your pulse is 70, I wouldn’t think you need to worry about it. My pulses are often 90-100. When I eat a big meal (feel better and warm after), I can sometimes get my pulse into the 80s (I even did a little dance when I got it to 78 after a smoothie once… giggity).
I know a Peat practitioner who says that those of us with high pulses are the hardest to “fix.” (Kind of wish I had never heard that cuz now I got a complex).
Hope that answer helps!July 8, 2013 at 11:42 pm #7843LiandaModerator
I’ve been diagnosed with Hashimoto’s thyroiditis, with the preponderance of hypothyroid symptoms. Re-feeding has gotten my temps up and even gotten me to the point where I sweat (yippee and yuck). My resting pulse has always been TOO high! (105 asleep, measured with a Holter monitor). It’s not related to adrenaline. So my case may be different than yours.
Before my temps were up, my digestion was dead slow, GB pain, needed to take enzymes to digest my food, and try to empty my stomach. The greatest relief I had experienced was with Magnesium Citrate. But after I added Vit. B12, I’ve found a GREAT improvement in my digestion. I’m really amazed. Check it out – http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/b12/
And one final note: Stress can be managed many ways. Re-feeding by mindful, slow eating of foods you love is wonderful. But for “T” trauma, abuse, neglect, chronic stress, EFT Tapping is wonderful, as well as Energy Psychology/and Mindful practices. You can learn them, and do them yourself. Don’t discount the effect of stress on everything going on in your body!July 9, 2013 at 6:08 am #7853DutchieParticipant
@AnnaB i dont know which practitioner you spoke,or need 2know,but i was basically told by a peat practitioner the other way round.
Highish consistent temp&pulse mean high metabolism,while only one of. The 2means high adrenaline/stress?
Problem is,i dont know what to trust. On the few incidences where my temp reached 37c and pulse 80 after eating,i felt my heart pounding strongly,felt highly anxious,started craving stuff,thirsty etc. It felt like the body/adrenals were very stressed and it takes me a while to calm down,i usually have to take a long walk. It sometimes really feels like im becoming delussional then or having a bad trip!
My theory: ive been living probably since. Early teens with low metabolism,exercabated by the lyme&co years ago,low temps&low pulse that my body has gotten used to thrive on it that anything higher/normal is purely causing adrenalstress?
Or could it be that some people genetically are meant to have sligthly lower temp&pulse?July 9, 2013 at 9:36 am #7859
I guess it depends what you mean by “high.” 98.6 and a pulse of 80 would be a good high according to my practitioner (and the others I’ve read). But having a high temp and a pulse around 95 or higher could mean adrenaline is driving both.
I’ve also heard that a lot of people who aren’t used to having a pulse that high do experience the symptoms you mentioned when they bring up their pulse, and that it scares them. My practitioner wasn’t too concerned about that feeling, and thought individuals would start to get used to having the higher pulse. I don’t know if people actually adjust to the higher pulse when they have the symptoms you describe.
In terms of being genetically meant to have a higher temp and pulse, I don’t know. My mom would always say that she and I ran “lower” temperature-wise, but I’m realizing now it was because we both had hypothyroid/hypometabolic problems.July 9, 2013 at 9:58 am #7863JessicaParticipant
Is there a Peat protocol for measuring pulse? Like should you be sitting and resting? Should you take it first thing in the morning like a basal temp reading? I haven’t worn my heart rate monitor outside of exercise in awhile, but I think I’m usually in the 90s throughout the day. I’ve been thinking its been too high. There doesn’t seem to be as much info out there on pulse as there is temperature. And like all of this stuff, I’m sure it’s a highly individual thing.July 9, 2013 at 10:26 am #7865
I take mine the same time I take my temps. So first thing in the morning (trying not to move first, etc), and then 20-30 minutes after a meal. Or you can just do it randomly. Like if you feel warm and awesome, or cold and awful, you might want to take it just to see where it is.
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