August 8, 2013 at 12:52 pm #11115
This is an old-timey medical diet I found that consists of nothing but bananas and milk for most of the day. The article (linked below) notes that bananas were chosen because they are highly satiating, while providing the carbs necessary to keep the body out of ketosis.
1-2 large ripe bananas
glass of whole milk
1-2 large ripe bananas
glass of whole milk
clear soup (gelatin?)
piece of lean meat
2-3 servings of vegetables
slice of bread and butter
This is a relatively low-calorie diet, but it seems moderate, pleasant and healthier than many weight loss diets. I entered all the items into fitday, using high estimates (4 total bananas, 24 oz. of milk, 6 oz. pork loin, etc.) and got these results:
Carbs: 53% (255 g)
Fat: 27% (55 g)
Protein: 20% (92 g)
Fiber: 33 g
The USDA value for all micro-nutrients was met (and usually exceeded), with the exception of vitamin E, and that could be met, if desired, by using different vegetables for dinner.August 8, 2013 at 12:57 pm #11116
Other notable qualities of this diet are that the fat is mainly from dairy sources (so primarily saturated) and the carbs favor sugars over starches. This would be a mainly Ray Peat friendly weight loss diet, especially if you make the soup with gelatin.August 8, 2013 at 4:32 pm #11120AshleyParticipant
Yea, that’d be a 1,000 calorie cut for me even on a lighter day! I’d have to do like 1.5x that. Man I really want a banana and some milk now!August 8, 2013 at 4:43 pm #11121
I’m thinking of trying this plan with a third banana/milk meal every day, plus a couple of high carb drinks with dinner (beer or soda), and extra carbs with work-outs (juice or candy). I might also eat more starch with dinner, and sometimes trade the bread for potatoes or rice. Basically, I look at the dinner as just a normal meal: lean meat, starch, some vegetables, a little fat, and a bit of sugar.
I love the idea of eating mainly fruit for most of the day, and I think adding the milk should make it easier. I’ve been making smoothies today with bananas, milk, and vanilla, and they are delicious and quite filling. I’ve been watching my fat intake, but I’m going to try the whole milk to see if that helps keep me satisfied until dinner time.August 8, 2013 at 5:01 pm #11122
With my new additions, the daily calorie intake became 2,800, with the macros as follows:
Carbs: 468 g. (64%)
Protein: 109 g. (15%)
Fat: 65 g. (21%)August 8, 2013 at 9:26 pm #11127CPMartinParticipant
I’m confused — isn’t 180 degree health all about not dieting to lose weight, and not to restrict calories, etc etc?
I’m asking as someone who gained an exorbitant amount of weight on the program, and is confused as to why it didn’t ‘work’. I could do more exercise, and I’m on that path now, but don’t you run the risk of lowering your metabolism again with this program?August 8, 2013 at 10:59 pm #11132
To be clear, I am in no way a representative of 180 Health, just someone who’s interested in nutrition and likes a lot of Matt’s ideas.
I was doing a search on bananas and milk when I ran across this diet. It interested me, because it’s so much different from modern diets. It includes tons of sugar, as well as full fat milk. As far as calorie restricted diets go, this one seems very 180-friendly.
My personal opinion is that, with very large calorie intakes, it’s inevitable that a person will gain weight. My own goal is to figure out a way to keep energy levels up without letting calories get quite so high. I don’t want to cut calories, but I’m looking for a style of eating that will be fully satisfying and energizing, without promoting weight gain.
But that’s only my opinion, and like I said, I’m just a guy on the Internet who likes talking about nutrition.August 24, 2013 at 12:14 am #11990CazParticipant
that is weird you mention this. lately i have been having milk and banana smoothie for breakfast and sometimes throughout the day so that is really weird for me lolAugust 24, 2013 at 4:43 am #11991CazParticipant
actually i have decided to cut the bananas out. the potassium is just causing me problems i need more sodium.August 24, 2013 at 12:21 pm #11998j-loParticipant
@David – There are plenty of reports of people eating large amounts of calories and not gaining significant weight. It seems that there are lots of factors – not just calories. Metabolic health, level of activity, and genetics seem to be major factors.August 25, 2013 at 8:32 am #12048AshleyParticipant
A lot of my first refeeding was bananas and milk. I craved it!August 25, 2013 at 11:41 pm #12079AmabelParticipant
Today I had the idea of banana, milk and strawberries smoothie :) May be with some salt :)September 5, 2013 at 2:44 pm #12363JonOParticipant
Since it is now a month since you posted this, are you doing the diet and is it working for you?September 5, 2013 at 7:56 pm #12371
Thanks for checking in. I just wrote a full post over on my main thread (http://180degreehealth.com/180forums/topic/complicated-recovery/page/2/#post-12369). The banana-and-milk diet wasn’t too great after a couple of days, so I’ve been eating more of a starch/meat/sugar diet, and it’s been pretty effective, and (unlike with the bananas and milk) I can’t imagine I’d ever get tired of it.September 29, 2020 at 1:33 am #18384lisabakerxParticipant
Harrop invented the banana and skimmed milk diet to treat obesity in patients for weight loss. He also published his results in the Journal of the American Medical Association in 1934. The diet recommended taking six bananas with 1000 cubic centimetres (4 glassfuls) of skimmed milk each day.
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