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July 8, 2013 at 8:25 pm #7819
Sileindigo
ParticipantAnyone else here have MS? I was dx’d when I was 18, and I’m 28 now. Had a couple of relapses along the way, mostly numbness, and all resolved. I did have lingering fatigue, though, that has gone away for the most part since following a 180degreehealth/raypeat inspired diet. My body comp also changed A LOT, and is more curvy now, but in a good way.
I also take LDN, progst-E, and occasional nutri-meds thyroid caps.
I used to have Raynaud’s syndrome pretty bad as well (its where the blood vessels in your fingers and toes spasm and you get always-cold hands, and occasionally worse). Amazingly, this has pretty much resolved, and my hands are almost always normal colored (used to be reddish purple all the time, and perpetually cold) and normal temperature, except for if I have low blood sugar or its the dead of winter, they’ll get cold sometimes.
I think stress is a big factor in MS, so I like Ray Peat’s articles for learning how to mitigate that.July 9, 2013 at 12:36 pm #7880Matt Stone
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<bold>Sileindigo</bold>, When I lived in Italy I had a girlfriend with MS. At first she tried the diet of Dr. Kousmine and that HELPED. However, when I left her to come back to the United States, she wasn’t doing well. She had to use a cane to walk. I thought for sure she was going to get worse. Then she found an acupuncturist who specialized in Multiple Sclerosis. That worked! Now when I call her, she often tells me she has to get off the phone to go dancing. It would appear that she’s completely cured. I think she started got this treatment in 1996 and she’s been fine ever since.Now, that said, I once had some success with acupuncture, with what appeared to be IBS. That said, I must tell you that I don’t think acupuncture works in all cases and as with all alternative medicine practitioners, you have to be careful. They are not all the same and some of them will bleed you of your last dollar. Be careful, if you choose to go down this path.
I hesitate to share this with you for the above reason. On the other hand, I do think it might be worth investigating….but with caution. Good luck!
November 25, 2013 at 7:32 pm #13861redrobin345
ParticipantI have MS too. I was Dx in 2006. I have been on interferon for years and am just now trying Tecfidera. My first year and a half was bad, but it’s been pretty mild since then. I quit gluten and dairy in 2006 based on the MS Diet, but I am now trying to eat dairy again for the “good” fat and calcium. Occasionally will try gluten but I have neurological symptoms, as opposed to just allergy type symptoms, so I have to be careful of that. I also have Raynaud’s, and I think it might be the main reason I was so interested in this program. It is sooo painful! If I could have warm fingers (and any libido at all), I would be very happy. My sister is big fan of Ray Peat. I will have to check him out.
November 28, 2013 at 6:48 pm #13945Dutchie
ParticipantYears ago I was diagnosed as having MS too,however I dont believe in auto-immune diseases….as in there’s something wrong&inflammatory in the body. I think in my case it was Lyme’s disease,however it could have possibly left it’s damages inside.
By my own experience,it *seems* like there’s something to certain of Ray Peat’s theories though I find a large part of the Peat community way too dogmatic and the ‘strict Peat diet’ protocol (as in mainly milk&OJ) not helpful. I think the higher calcium to phosphorus ratio migth be of importance for relief of jointpains amongst some others…that’s probably why lots of MS patients feel better avoiding gluten,because it takes out a large part of grains and thus high phosphorus-low calcium source. But it turns out all starchsources are way higher in phosphorus than calcium. The difference between Ca:ph in fruits&non-starchy veggies is much lower and sometimes calcium is even higher.
The important factor that gets overlooked often is that with higher calcium you must make sure you also get adequate higher magnesium and supplement with Vit.D if you don’t live in an allyear round sunny area.Coincidentally,a couple of days ago I saw many Ankylosing Spondylitis patients have succes with a no-starch diet….this diet shows some main guideline semblances with a Peat-inspired framework….as in living off sugars,fats mostly saturated and protein. The only difference is that there’s no talk about PUFA avoidance from fatty fish,pig,chicken,apart from veggie oils&margarine&most nuts with the exception of a few,and they do allow for non-starchy above ground vegetables.
But from what I’ve read it’s really strict as in that certain vegetables can (still) contain starch either when cooked or eaten raw. But it’s interesting that many joint/muscle-ache diseases in large part boil down to the same dietary regiments. -
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