March 2, 2014 at 1:59 pm #15622RobModerator
Since there seems to be some interest in this topic, maybe next month I’ll do my follow up to my calorie experiment and how it’s going for me. I was planning to wait a while longer just to establish and observe long term trends, but a 6 month update from my post might still be useful.
What do you think Matt and newsletter readers? I can also start to write about my experience so far with Garrett Smith’s hair mineral analysis stuff, as I began that around four months ago.March 2, 2014 at 2:37 pm #15625
Yeah Rob, please share your experiences!
Thank you Matt for posting more stories! Very helpful. I’m encouraged by Julie’s results. That seems like a safe way to go about it. And she got both the metabolism and ideal weight! Cheers to that! I’m following her good example (:March 2, 2014 at 4:37 pm #15627LindaParticipant
I liked the Billy Craig article. I can’t imagine eating that much. Can’t wait to hear about his client.March 2, 2014 at 6:17 pm #15628frimminParticipant
Matt, I honestly felt this newsletter was a tease. I’m really confused now. When you shut down the blog in favor of the newsletter, I imagined that it was to consolidate and unify the information.
Instead I see now a book is being promoted on the evils of grains when half of the snacks you recommend are grains! Billy Craig gives us a teaser on his high-calorie weight loss (with no usable information), and you confess that you haven’t lost a pound.
I’ve gone through refeeding, my metabolism is great according to the recommended signs, but I absolutely do not want to remain at this weight.
I’m really hoping for some actionable weight-loss information in the next newsletter.
jonMarch 2, 2014 at 7:46 pm #15631
There was a study on feeding “naturally slim people, that say, they eat everything they want their whole life” a large quantity of food in order to test if they also gain weight, when over their energy requirements. I don’t recall how much it was but something like 6000 kcal. And guess what, they all gained weight! Those people have never dieted a day in their life and always ate whatever like pizza etc. This study was on BBC if you want to look it up on youtube.
I’ve tried some wild ideas in my life and if I try something that obviously doesn’t have definite proof, I need to take responsibility for that choice. Matt hasn’t done this long enough to be able to know what happens longterm. But he is the leader into a new dimension based on new ideas. Risky and fun! Decide what risks you are willing to take. He does have responses like Jon coming though. After all, he sells his ideas like they are bricks of gold lol. Not too hard when the baseline is to eat loads of delicious food and get slim lol. I still want it to be true (: But until I see everyone get results, I going to restrict a bit like Julie and some others on the forum who seemed to have stayed or come back to slim. It’s not pretty when a woman gets overweight and then loses it all. Let me just say deflated boobs…March 2, 2014 at 10:35 pm #15638brittbrittParticipant
Well…to add my two cents, I’m a 25 yo, 5’8 female and I’ve started losing weight after refeeding. After a 10 year history of constant dieting and a pretty severe stint with anorexia my body is really effed up…my immune system crashed giving me a stint with chronic mono that lasted YEARS and other funky things have happened like suddenly getting a bunch of new food and environmental allergies, having constant sinus infections, gross cystic acne along my jawline, dry flaky skin, IBS symptoms, depression and anxiety…general misery. I got fed up and started refeeding in April 2012. I went from 185-215 pounds, but never changed clothing size oddly enough (remained a size 12 the whole time). Throughout the last two years I’ve also been practicing power yoga a minimum of 3 times but preferably 6 times per week, which is pretty much the first time I’ve ever been consistently physically active. I only stayed at 215 for about a month and then immediately started going down again. It took 9 months to get back down to 185. I then had a dieting relapse and effed up my metabolism/digestion so I did more refeeding this past December-January and now I’m just eating to appetite of whatever I want. I don’t know exactly how much I gained during the second refeed because I’ve decided that scales suck and I threw mine out but judging by clothing Id say no more than 10 pounds…and I’ve already started losing again. I’m now a size 10 so I’m clearly more muscular and my body shape has completely changed (my stomach is smaller and now all my fat goes to my ass and thighs? Weird because I’ve always had a flat butt in the past). I’m eating a lot of abominations including soda, pizza several times a week, donuts every morning and dessert every evening. As time goes by I’m noticing I want more healthy things so I’m slowly shifting to more whole foods and less refined sugars/PUFAs, etc and I would be shocked if I don’t keep losing. This probably isn’t a great inspirational story because a lot of women would be ashamed to weight what I do but I don’t feel like a size 10 is that bad and plus….I’m just really enjoying life for the first time in a while and I’m much healthier! My theory is that the meditation, yoga, and other stress relief tactics I use regularly such as hot baths, journaling, soothing music and lower stress lifestyle made a big different in being able to lose the weight I gained so easily. I know you generally don’t recommend as much exercise as I get but I really love the benefits of yoga. I do it in the evening after I’ve eaten most my calories for the day and it doesn’t seem to hurt my temps.
I personally enjoyed the newsletter and I thoroughly appreciate your honesty. Makes you much more trustworthy.March 3, 2014 at 12:39 am #15641
A size 10 can look great. Congrats on your progress! It’s true, life is a lot more fun when you get to eat up. It definitely sounds like a sign of health that your abs are flat and the fat goes to the bum. Better that way and sexier, too!March 3, 2014 at 1:39 am #15645ellemarieParticipant
It’s been really great reading the testimonials on this thread today. Thanks to those who have shared.March 3, 2014 at 1:27 pm #15652katezaarParticipant
Thank you so much for posting, brittbritt! This lines up with what I am experiencing so far, and I find it encouraging.March 4, 2014 at 9:31 am #15674nbogosianParticipant
How do we know that overfeeding is not just as stressful as underfeeding? How can we know when warmth is healthy warmth? I agree that increasing calories is a good thing – but not necessarily overfeeding. There’s a lot of slim junk-food eaters, but perhaps the stress hasn’t caught up with them yet? I’m also hesitant to trust the advice of someone who charges 1,500 pounds for a yearly subscription to their health advice…. : )
i’ve noticed weight loss with a 2500-3000 calorie/day diet with lots of warmth….but ONLY if i’m getting a wide variety of nutrients and am doing some strength training. it seems to me that the body decides to drop unneeded fat when all stressors are cleared and it has the fuel it needs to be at peace
March 4, 2014 at 9:46 am #15676katezaarParticipant
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Hi, nbogosian: I think you ask a good question. Also, clearing stressors and fueling for peace sounds like a solid plan.
I do want to mention that Matt does not, as far as I can read anywhere, charge for this advice, unless you do a one-on-one consultation, which costs 195 dollars US (about 116 British pounds).
His books are often free, his website is free, and these forums are free.March 4, 2014 at 11:09 am #15678LindaParticipant
I would like to add that if you can’t afford to pay the full price for a consultation he usually will accept whatever you can afford. He did with me.March 4, 2014 at 4:37 pm #15682The Real AmyModerator
nbogosian, I agree. I think overeating is a bad idea personally, with the one exception being that if you are recovering from a severe eating disorder you will have to eat above appetite for some time, but you should have medical supervision for this process. Overeating can be very stressful, and I don’t think it’s any healthier than under-eating, personally. I also think some of the things Matt talks about (like being overheated all the time) can be a sign of too much fat and too much food, not a healthy metabolism. When you actually have a healthy metabolism, you should actually tolerate both heat and cold better.
I am always a proponent of eating to appetite and learning how to listen to your body.
Nice to hear all of these happy success stories!March 4, 2014 at 5:15 pm #15683nbogosianParticipant
katezaar – sorry, should have clarified that i meant the guy being interviewed charges that amount. The Real Amy and others – glad to hear that we’re on the same page. I think that many will draw the conclusion from this newsletter that the way to lose weight is to overfeed – but I think the real message is to just give your body the calories it needs (which for some is hard to detect that you are lacking). Matt says that he hasn’t figured out the weight loss “secret” and i think the item for debate is if it matters where those calories come from. Because a proper amount of calories is only one part of the picture. With all that being said, i have found Matt’s attention to junk food and calorie density very helpful. I feed my body junk food on the days that it specifically craves it and am always on the hunt for finding calorie dense foods that aren’t junk. : )March 4, 2014 at 5:54 pm #15684The Real AmyModerator
Totally agree! Nutritious food (and an overall well-balanced diet) is very important IMO. Basically, just a well-rounded diet that gives the body what it needs :-)
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