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  • #9082
    sideshowdoc
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    So is it common to develop more and more food intolerances due to extended time of not enough calories?

    For me I have noticed with dairy that wheyprotein and mainly whey dairy like ricotta digest just fine. However if I eat anything with casein now I notice it bloats me and slows down my digestion for a day or two. This never used to happen. Any thing with cacao powder now bothers me as well.

    Is this something that can be remedied with proper nutrition over Time or is it something that will persist?

    #9086
    BauerPower
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    Yes, restriction can cause transient issues like these. These issues will USUALLY resolve with more food and time. :)

    #9604
    Rob
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    @sideshowdoc,

    Yes, starvation, sub-clinical or otherwise, an definitely increase food intolerances. Here’s a couple of long sections from 12 Paleo Myths. It may not all apply to you, but it may be helpful in strategizing for recovery.

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    Autoimmune disease

    Autoimmune disease is something that the Paleo crowd likes to pin almost entirely on gluten. While gluten can trigger an inappropriate inflammatory response in someone with a hyperactive immune system, that doesn’t make it the cause. Often, it isn’t. I’ve seen many autoimmune diseases emerge on wheat-free diets, and clear up when wheat is reintroduced, for example.

    The theme is definitely reduction in metabolism, which exerts a lot of influence over the thymus gland (thought to be pretty central in the development of autoimmune disease). As Hans Selye’s pivotal work on stress showed, the thymus gland undergoes radical change when the catecholamine and glucocorticoids are elevated ? a frequent result of calorie restriction, carbohydrate restriction, and other dietary errors. I’m not so concerned with the physiological details though, as all I need are eyes and ears to see that autoimmune disease is a frequent result of a Spartan health regime involving too much exercise, too little food, not enough carbs, lack of sleep, too much stress or trauma, or a combination of several inadequacies.

    Just look at the incredibly high rates of autoimmune disease seen with bariatric surgery, for example. Is it because they are eating more wheat on their 400 calorie diets that’s causing autoimmunity? I don’t think so. Broda Barnes, one of the Godfathers of metabolism, reported that he never saw a single case of lupus develop among his patients ? one of the more common autoimmune diseases.

    ?Throughout my medical career, I have routinely treated each case of lupus I have encountered with adequate thyroid therapy and each has responded satisfactorily without evidence of any involvement of the internal organs. Among the thousands of hypothyroid patients I have treated with thyroid in that time for other manifestations of thyroid deficiency, not one has developed lupus. To be sure, lupus is a very common disease, and yet I have the feeling that thyroid therapy used where indicated to correct thyroid deficiency may act as a prophylactic agent against lupus.
    ~Broda Barnes; Hypothyroidism: The Unsuspecting Illness

    Estrogen appears to play some role as well ? probably why women are 3 or more times as likely as men to develop an autoimmune disease. But thyroid plays a key role in this as well, as the more thyroid you produce, generally the more of the hormones that oppose estrogen that you produce. This equates to more testosterone in men, and more progesterone in women.

    Increased Allergies/Sensitivities

    Want to become hypersensitive to gluten and a bunch of other foods? Then cut it out of your diet along with everything else that you might be reacting to.

    Not to discredit food sensitivities and allergies. Clearly there are circumstances that warrant removal of certain foods ? at least temporarily.

    But the root problem in most food sensitivities is the person, not the food. Change the person, eliminate the sensitivity/allergy. I do believe this is a plausible and obtainable goal for a lot of people. I hate to see people quickly eliminate foods from their diet as if it is just no big deal. Restricted diets can paralyze and alienate an entire family from the rest of society. Dietary restriction is a LAST RESORT, not a first line of action. Can ya tell I got a pet peeve with this one?

    The etiology of autoimmune disease is probably very similar to the etiology of allergy, sensitivity, and general hyperactivity of the immune system and inflammatory response. There may be another co-factor in why Paleo frequently elicits greater hypersensitivity though ? the type of fat consumed in large quantities on a typical Paleo diet.

    Paleo eaters often choke down gobs and gobs of Arachidonic Acid (AA) as if it hasn’t been shown to directly increase the inflammatory response?

    ??research has proven that a high AA diet has the potential actually to change normal immune responses to abnormal, exaggerated ones. A study carried out in 1997 by Dr. Darshan S. Kelley and colleagues at the Western Human Nutrition Research Center in California showed that people on high-AA diets generated four times as many inflammatory cells after a flu vaccination as people on low-AA diets.
    ~Floyd Chilton; Inflammation Nation

    Foods highest in AA include eggs, pork fat, organ meats, poultry fat? many Paleo-friendly foods. Many Paleo eaters also consume substantial quantities of nuts and seeds, which contain a great deal of Linoleic acid ? a precursor to Arachidonic acid formation with anti-metabolic, pro-estrogen implications. Not good. But even without lots of nuts, seeds, pork, and eggs ? just taking in most of your calories as fat ensures much higher levels of Arachidonic Acid intake unless you are hypervigilant about it ? but I know of no major Paleo author who has paid much attention to this potentially-important piece of information.

    #9657
    sideshowdoc
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    Best bet would most likely be slowly increasing food, letting the body restore itself, but stick to the foods that agree with me for now so i can eat without problems, and introduce problem foods as my health gets better?

    #10330
    Rob
    Moderator

    Missed this some days back. Yeah- that’s a good approach.

    #13363
    hhcc
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    I developed major sensitivities by dwindling both my calories to dangerous levels and food groups. My reactions consisted of swelling, edema, acne, racing heart, digestive issues, bloating, lethargy, lack of sleep, etc. The more I followed approaches like Paleo, the more consistently my body remained reactive to just about everything that wasn’t protein or fat. After about a year of eating whatever (on and off), I now have no symptoms or reactions. Just today I had a bowl of granola for the first time in a long time and noticed that I had no racing heart and my body temperature didn’t shoot through the roof. I can also finally have dairy ;). It’s also true that when you don’t restrict, you really could care less if it’s in your fridge or not, just like your body.

    #13439
    tennosea
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    I have an inflammatory bowel disease largely considered to be an autoimmune disease. It developed several years into my anorexia. No one in my family has an IBD. Symptoms have improved during brief periods of recovery/improved nutrition over several months. I’ve never fully recovered and every relapse brings a return to the intensity of the symptoms. It is controlled with steroidal meds but I would prefer to not take a (very expensive and chock full of side effects) steroid every day for the rest of my life. As soon as I go off the roids, tho, the symptoms return. There have been a few times when I’ve been in inpatient treatment followed by rigorous outpatient treatment and have been able to take a break from the meds.

    #13473
    Chen2011
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    hhcc, you mentioned you had serious sensetivities. I seem to be having alot of the same problems as you. Could you please tell me if you had a method for introducing foods. Perhaps some foods seemed easier to digest? Also did you need gelatin or broth daily? I guess i cant seem to make any progress with introducing foods. Get heart palpatations esp. at night from so many different foods.
    Could you let me know how you went about things?

    #13490
    hhcc
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    Hi Chen2011 – I just posted on this forum: “Coming off vegetarianism and paleoish”. For some reason I was notified from that thread and not this one. In terms of heart palpitations: do you exercise?

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