March 14, 2014 at 6:17 am #15864
Hi all, I’m still struggling two years into eating Matt Stone style and trying to raise metabolism. Generally I am a bit warmer, but fatigue is crippling 16 days or so prior to my period, and I am no closer to getting rid of my chronic Candida/bacterial overgrowth that I’ve had since I was a child (I’m now nearly 40)- plus my son (16 months) also has it (and has cold skin to touch, cold hands and feet, prone to constipation). I’ve read that having a chronic gut infection can lower thyroid output over time (inflammation in the gut leads to reverse T3; bacterial endotoxin downregulates TSH, T3 and T4 etc) and I’m sure this is what has happened to both of us. So my question is, how do I raise thyroid/metabolic output when the very food I am eating is fermenting and feeding a gut imbalance???? I feel a bit better eating sugars rather than starches, but even this is causing symptoms. I know low-carb isnt the answer, cos I trashed my metabolism on this for 4.5 years trying to ‘cure’ Candida… but right now I am getting sick of the constant itching, fatigue, brain fog, anxiety, mood swings, PMS etc- and every month this is getting worse not better!! And I tried NDT/adrenal extract and they just made me crash cos my adrenals are so weak….
Matt if you’re reading this I would really like you to address gut infections and what to eat… I’ve really tried following your principles but feel like I am going backwards right now :-(March 14, 2014 at 1:33 pm #15869
I really wish Matt would write back on this, too! 2 years and no better. That is awful!! I have similar problems with itching, anxiety, pms? but I’m only 2 +months in. Matt says it’s temporary but obviously it’s more than temporary for you! How did you even manage to have the stamina for this long?
You must have tried all kinds of probiotics? Did your mom have this problem, also?
I get scared that the sugar is causing the inflammation. After all, that is a common idea.March 14, 2014 at 11:02 pm #15878podParticipant
Have you tried eating a carrot salad? This is a Ray Peat idea. Basically just grating some raw carrot. You can add salt vinegar coconut oil for some flavor. Wait at least an hour after meals to eat and another hour after eating this before eating anything else. Carrot salad actually warms me up.
If you can’t keep warm with foods then bundle up or stay some place warm. I woke up with a cold 2 days ago. Could not stop sneezing, stuffy nose, occasional coughing fits. I went outside and sat in my car which was warmed up by the sun and all my symptoms were gone. Its crazy and I don’t quite understand it but it did some good. Of course I developed a headache when I went to sleep but when morning came around I was fine.
Hope that helpsMarch 15, 2014 at 5:51 am #15881
Yeah my mum has Candida really badly… So do my brothers. My guess is that our immune system doesn’t recognise it as an enemy. Every time I do something that boosts my immune system it only works for a little while before the yeast seems to catch up and adapt. Its depressing. I’ve done the carrot thing, though not on an empty stomach, so could try that. Probiotics don’t seem to work for serious gut imbalances… Some short term gains that then just die away.March 15, 2014 at 10:12 am #15885
Ok here are some ideas that I’m considering for myself. Maybe you can help me brainstorm.
Have you tried colostrum?
Besides going very low carb and now eat for heat, have you tried plenty of gluten free grains with veg/protein/fat no fruit or dairy besides butter/goat cheese. I read about a type of metabolic condition that causes certain sugars/carbs to turn into acids which created low energy and kills of good bacteria since they cannot survive in such a medium.The author claims that this person can come back to a normal metabolism after years of strictly adhering to this diet. I’m thinking this might be a solution that still allows carbs. It sounds very healthy and probably will keep the person at a normal weight.
There has to be a better way. 2 years is a long time!March 15, 2014 at 11:12 am #15887
Thanks Christinam. Yes I’ve tried colostrum in the past… Was totally amazing for about four month, felt totally over the chronic fatigue I’d had, but then as with everything else, all gains slowly reversed. I know people who it’s worked well for though. I’ve done most combinations of food groups in the past but not the one you mention… I have a problem with grains and starches generally but I guess with a strict regime some of that might change. Could you tell me the reference for the diet you describe? Where can I read about it? Thanks.March 15, 2014 at 11:45 am #15890
The book is called ‘The natural way to heal, 65 ways..’ by Walter Last. The book is full of all kinds of healing concepts and can be confusing but the part I mentioned here is under hypoglycemia diet. Also the section on sweet foods. He goes into symptoms and it’s spot on for what you and I are experiencing. He does say that green juices and some seeds are ok which I would avoid after learning Matt’s point of view.
The tough part is, that it is hard to avoid sugars since they are so tasty and addictive.But I would rather be a bit strict and get better than eat ice cream!!
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