August 14, 2013 at 1:41 pm #11446
Now I don’t mean to single Ray out, but I did notice that despite appearing to be sympathetic to Matt’s ideas, he continues to sell Neanderthin on his site. Now what’s up with that? I can see for Health Gurus there is an additonal problem to just letting go of their ego, eating some Humble Pie, and admitting they might have been wrong about some things. They also have a financial interest in their diet. So what are you going to put on your resume after you’ve made your money pimping your diet for a few decades?
I am making fun here, but I am also serious. It’s sort of like being a Disco Dance instructor and all the sudden it’s 1990 and everybody is saying “Disco Sucks”. What does an out-of-work diet guru do?August 18, 2013 at 7:21 pm #11697baconperrierParticipant
Interesting topic, surprised others haven’t replied.
I remember this year when Diane SanFillipo posted on her Facebook that she was exahusted and had been exhausted for years and kept getting more tests, blaming “adrenal fatique” and so on. She probably could just eat more starch or sugar and feel way better, especially with her level of fitness.
Jimmy Moore is probably the most screwed up in this regard, his entire bottom line depends on his low carb religion.August 19, 2013 at 11:50 am #11718
This ex-weight loss expert became a past life regression specialist lol. In all seriousness, though, this is a great read that someone posted on the Healthy Diet post yesterday. An apology from a former weight loss consultant who worked at Jenny Craig. This piece took some serious balls, I think.
I think a lot of people go through career crises. A lot of mainstream MDs have been through some similar stuff as the medical landscape has evolved with managed care, etc., and some have decided to leave and find a new career, or to just accept less money in return for more time with patients. Didn’t you go through something similar, Thomas, with alternative medicine?August 20, 2013 at 10:08 am #11760
Maybe I am not understanding your question Amy. I was never an alternative medicine practitioner of any sort. I did have a health crisis in which I had to go on medical leave for a while, if that’s what you’re talking about.August 20, 2013 at 11:13 am #11761
I thought you had worked in the alternative medicine sphere (not as an actual practitioner) for years, and now you are very anti that whole area. Did I mix up your career?August 20, 2013 at 12:33 pm #11767
No, dear. I am a computer engineer. I never worked in Alternative Medicine. NEVER. I used it for a long, long time (starting in my Junior year of college) and believed in it.
Now I use it only rarely. I don’t want to throw out the baby with the bath water as regards Alternative Medicine. There are some good things. But let me put it this way. In terms of Alternative Medicine, I’ve found there to be a lot of bath water and a very small baby :)August 20, 2013 at 12:46 pm #11771RobModerator
Yeah, interesting topic, @ThomasSeay- what to do when the tides are turning?
For a long time, a guy named Matt Savinar ran a peak oil blog called LifeAferTheOilCrash. He was well-researched and sent what must have been hours a day mired in news about energy, geopolitics, all of that. After doing that for a decade, he closed shop and became an astrologer.
I guess sometimes you can only do something for a while before outside forces (or internal ones) have that field run its course.
He’s in your neck of the woods, in case you ever want a reading by the way. :-DAugust 20, 2013 at 1:12 pm #11778
@Rob, seeing as oil hasn’t crashed yet, I don’t know how much worth I would place in his ability as an astrologer! That said, Matt Savinar has got a law degree from a reputable law school, so he has options. Obviously a guy like Ray Peat has options. Others, like Jimmy Moore, strike me as unadulterated White Trash and I don’t know what else they could do…maybe sell Used Cars? So, they have to stick to their diet shtick, even though behind closed doors they may have doubts and want to ditch the whole thing.
I want to think we are entering a post-diet era, but I’m probably wrong. It’s not going away probably. These things have resilience. Proof of this is the macrobiotic diet. People have died from it. It has proven worthless as an anti-cancer diet (for which it was once touted) and even some of its premier proponents have died from or suffer from cancer. On top of this, it sucks ass to eat the stuff. Yet, here it is, fifty years later. If it is not as popular as it was in 1982, it still exists.August 20, 2013 at 2:08 pm #11783
A post-diet era? I’m pretty sure we’re entering the Era of the Diet. It used to just be overweight women, now men are dieting all over the place as well as skinny women. A ton of people I know are on diets. Low-carb has somehow become mainstream. It never used to be this way.
Once all these people crash, maybe then we will enter the post-diet era.
I guess when you said you were in alternative health for years, I thought you meant working not using. I still believe in alternative medicine as overall it’s worked for me a whole lot better than Western medicine (other than emergency care, in which I think Western med is the gold standard, and some diagnostic and endocrinologic stuff). But I agree, some things are better than others and you have to take it all with a grain of salt.August 21, 2013 at 3:01 pm #11869
You are right The Real Amy. Wishful thinking on my part. However, I would like to think the developments at this site reflect the beginning of the end of the Diet Era.September 17, 2013 at 10:38 pm #12686prancieParticipant
Yes, dieting is bigger than ever. The standards for thinness seem to be even more brutal than ever, especially for men.
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