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  • #13212
    IsleWalker
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    Hi–

    I’ve only been doing this for about 3 weeks. I am able to raise my daytime temps to between 98 and 99, but that only if I watch carefully and eat (force myself at times) every couple of hours. Hands and feet getting better.

    But nighttime has always been my problem. I spent 4 years in bed without enough energy to get up, so I’m pretty sure my cortisol cycle is screwed up and produced during the night–tearing me up then. I get eyeball pressure (and the “goo” in my right eye separated from the wall and hasn’t repaired in over a year) and stiff muscles from nothing.

    So I tried eating later and later. My usual eating routine was horrible–latte for breakfast, biggest meal around 2pm and then snacking until bedtime. So I’ve concentrated on filling myself enough to get through the night. No luck. I’ve eaten at 7pm, 10pm. I’ve kept mini eclairs at the bedside (because they are one thing that lasts longer at night and must be what I need). But I still can’t get through the night and I’m usually in the 96 degree area then.

    How does one do it?

    Also: I had a pattern of what I called “dead time” from noon until 3pm where I would just collapse during the day. WHen I got healthy enough to get back into running (which I’ve done 30+ years), I didn’t feel tired per se, but this crash would happen. So I haven’t exercised at all. I realize it was burning the only energy I had.

    But what else can I do here?

    #13213
    patch87
    Participant

    The more powerful effect happens mixing salt and sugar with starch and fat. Only sugar could be not enough, try adding something salty like chips, or you can try to mix 5 part of sugar with 1 part of salt and take it when needed before sleep or when you want, if you can’t eat or you have no will of eat.
    Did you read diet recovery 2 or eat for heat?
    These two books have a lot of informatioms that can be useful. Anyway here in the forum and in the web-site you can find a lot of informatioms too. :)
    Good luck! :)

    #13214
    patch87
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    Before the crash happens try to eat a good meal with starch, sugar, salt and saturated fat. For example you know that at 3pm you have a crash, well at 2pm or 2.30pm eat a consistent meal with the combination I wrote before. ;)

    #13218
    IsleWalker
    Participant

    Patch–

    The biggest crash is during the night, so, as I said, I have eaten meals (4S types) as late as possible. The “crash” is happening during the night. My old pattern was to wake every three hours, take amino acids & lecithin (which seemed to help but not enough. It was probably “food” but not enough).

    The noon-3pm crash I can deal with by eating extra during then. I am wondering why the pattern doesn’t change. But I am less concerned about it than the nighttime, given the goal is to sleep through the night with consistent high temps, without peeing. If I can’t get this night-cortisol pattern switched, I’m not gonna be feeling energetic during the day.

    Any other suggestions?

    #13219
    IsleWalker
    Participant

    Patch–

    Sorry, I should have been more clear. There are two problems: The noon to 3pm crash and the all night really bad crash. How can I change this without getting up to eat?

    I read Diet Recovery.

    • This reply was modified 8 years, 8 months ago by IsleWalker.
    #13224
    patch87
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    mix 5 part of sugar with 1 part of salt, put it in a little bag and take it when needed under the tongue, you will not have need to get out of bed.
    Other ideas could be: an hot shower before sleep and hot bag in the bed.
    You can see this article: http://180degreehealth.com/2013/04/hot-water-vs-cold-water-thermogenesis

    #13225
    IsleWalker
    Participant

    Patch–

    Thanks for the link. I had wondered about that idea because I have a heating pad in the bed all the time, day or night–because of the cold hands/feet and because of the muscles stiffness, which is one of my bad symptoms. I wondered if that would have the opposite effect–making my body not have to work to warm.

    But the salt/sugar under the tongue–I don’t think is gonna work. I have been eating full meals at 10 pm of 1000+ calories, eating a full bowl of ice cream with whipped cream, nuts, chocolate syrup–as dessert and then going to bed. THat lasts maybe 2 hours and the other symptoms come on.

    The mini-eclairs that I bought so I could eat while in bed–have that ideal combination of saturated fats (cream), salt, sugar and chocolate. I would eat as much as I could –maybe 750 calories worth, and it only lasts another 2 hours. THat seems to be the pattern–huge calories only lasting for hours. Eating just salt and sugar (aside from being icky!) I just don’t think would serve the purpose.

    Is your hypothesis that this is just salt or sugar deficiency?

    Lora

    #13226
    patch87
    Participant

    Really I don’t know, these are the ideas that came in my mind…
    Do you have some other health issues? Did you do some blood test for hypothyrodism?
    I tried several things in the last six months, but I did little progress because (I guess) the SSRI I take that have several anti metabolic effects and I suspect I have also a bit of hypothyrodism (I don’t know if provoked by SSRI or not) but I have to wait to do some blood analysis to be certain… But other health issues could be capable to sabotage your progresses, this is what I think. :)

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