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  • #10718
    OldMate
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    I never really drank soft drink growing up.
    The only time I would drink it is with bourbon or whiskey until now.

    I have found it to be extremely helpful in this metabolic recovery program, however I think because I restricted soft drink for so long I just want to guzzle it like crazy!!

    Has anyone else found this?

    OF course I don’t over do it, because when I do I notice that I am cold, and my nutrition doesn’t work as it should.

    but its just one of the things I noticed how if you restrict something so long, you just want to smash it when you allow yourself to have it..

    #10744
    Matt Stone
    Keymaster

    It is ridiculous how helpful they are. It was one thing I bashed more than any other edible product on earth. I don’t “need” them anymore, but I do have some with meals from time to time. Nothing really compares.

    #10751
    mighty m
    Participant

    Since I started drinking juice, lemonade or milk with meals instead of water, it’s really helped digestion and in getting high daytime temps. I got the idea from @David on the forum. It had honestly never occurred to me, that’s how much I eschewed them before!

    If it keep it to just what I’m thirsty for, it’s perfect, usually only half a glass, or maybe 4 oz. But yeah, @OldMate, they are so tasty I sometimes gulp down, say, 8 or 12 ounces at a time! And if I do that, it does *seem* to keep me from getting my temperature up post-meal, but I can’t be sure that’s the reason.


    @Matt
    , is it possible to lower temps via “dilution” by drinking too much of a caloric beverage? At this point, for me, it does seem possible, but maybe there’s some other reason?

    #10772
    Steven e
    Participant

    I went through a soda phase that has tapered off now. But, yeah, I would drink 4 or 5 cans a day in hot weather and it was great. Helpful to get those extra calories in and to cut back on plain water consumption. As much plain water as I’ve drunk over the years, it rarely feels really satisfying as far as quenching thirst goes. Now plain water sort of sits heavy in my stomach, and can mess with my digestion. I still drink quite a bit when it’s hot, just because it’s what I have, but generally I’d rather drink something with food in it. I really like the Mexican coke and pepsi that we can get here. Glass bottle and real sugar, though I usually do better without the caffeine. I also like blue sky orange soda. Most of their other sodas are not quite as good, but they do a lot of organic sodas and some use evaporated cane juice instead of refined sugar, which is pretty cool.

    #10773
    Steven e
    Participant

    Now I’m wondering if getting out of my high calorie drink phase is part of why my temps are down. I was blaming it on lack of sleep/stress, but maybe it would help get me back to sleep. I think I’ll pick up some soda in town tomorrow!

    #10776
    OldMate
    Participant

    Yeah in aus we can get glass bottle cane sugar coke. Thanks for reminding me. I might pick some up.

    I drank some beer for the first time in ages last night. It hit me hard and I didn’t feel so good, so I ate a bag of salty chips and that helped a lot. First thing I wanted when I woke up this morning was coke.

    #10777
    Steven e
    Participant

    I love beer, especially after working on a hot day. Nothing can take it’s place. It feels like if I don’t drink some I’ll die of death or something. I think it’s packed with electrolytes, and a good deal of carbs. The side effects of the alcohol are not always great though. Other times, it just absorbs into my body like it’s the best food ever with no ill effects at all. Sorting out which times are which is not always easy though. I’ve been indulging a bit lately and mostly enjoying it, though I wonder how much it’s negatively affecting me.

    I love that coke, but the caffeine usually messes me up. I feel great for a while (sugar with caffeine is a good combo) but later it leaves me tapped out and stressed out, weak, shaky and other high stress state stuff. Too bad. Yet another product to add to the coke line, decaf, real sugar, glass bottle coke.

    #10792
    Renae
    Participant

    I grew up drinking quite a bit of pop (yeah I’m from MN, we call it pop) because my mom worked for Coca-Cola, but stopped drinking it until recently. My favorite thing right now is Virgil’s Root Beer. Seriously good stuff. I personally can’t drink a lot at a time (like maybe half a bottle), but sometimes it really hits the spot.

    #10984
    Kristi
    Participant

    A couple weeks ago as I was reading some posts in the forum, someone mentioned a Snickers bar and a Coke. I couldn’t think of anything else after that and sent my husband to get me A Snickers and A Coke. Well, he bought me an 8-pack of those small cans of Coke and a whole package of Snickers bars. YUM! And, I noticed even just half of a small can of Coke would raise my temp. Hmmm…now I’m really craving a Coke! My hands and feet are cold, too. Maybe I *need* a Coke. :-)

    #11052
    David
    Moderator

    I love soft drinks, especially as a way to balance out a meal that includes starch and protein. They honestly seem like the single best source of energy that is cheaply available. I drink them based on hunger signals. When I feel like I need something substantial, such as some potatoes, a burrito, a sandwich, or pizza, then soda alone won’t help me, but when combined, the sugar seems to make the heavier foods easier to process, especially foods that are higher in protein.

    My results with caffeine are mixed. When I’m not feeling well, caffeine sometimes makes me feel worse, but at other times it’s perfect for energy. I keep both caffeinated and non-caffeinated soda for both occasions.

    You can think of beer as the soda of the middle ages. It provided easily-digested sugar from the barley malt, and it was bubbly and provided a nice drug boost (though alcohol instead of caffeine). For field workers, it was probably impossible to consume enough calories without adding beer to the diet.

    I kind of hate water unless I’m really thirsty, and I’m loath to think of how strict I used to be about drinking it. High carb drinks are the way to go if you want energy for physical activity.

    #11078
    OldMate
    Participant

    I can imagine for field workers it would be hard to want to go back to work after a beer with your meal. I reckon id want to sit around and drink more beers!

    #11079
    David
    Moderator

    I think the beer was high in calories, but low in alcohol. That would explain how wine and beer could be consumed all day in so many cultures. I’m actually kind of interested in brewing a beer like this, which could be drunk freely without worrying about intoxication. I think malt sugar is more nutritious than corn syrup too, so a low-alcohol beer could be a healthy substitute for soda.

    It could be nice to work all day with just a bit of alcohol in you. I don’t think I could have lasted all day in the fields without a buzz!

    #11080
    Steven e
    Participant

    Yeah, me too, I think the beer was often lower in alcohol. It was very common to pay workers in cider and beer and they expected it while working. there is a whole tradition of working on alcohol. Who knows if it was a good idea or not. There were strong beers though, and then small beers. Small beers had low alcohol and I would hazard to guess those were more of a staple. Also, I think freshly fermented drinks in general were called beers, like root beer and ginger beer. This was pre-soda, when fizz came from carbon dioxide produced in fermentation. I’ve always wanted to learn more about historic drinking and working practices, including beer. This quote from Jack London seems relevant. He was an alcoholic and wrote a book called alcoholic memoirs. which I listened to on Librivox.org

    “Of course I drank. I drank with my guests and hosts. Also, I drank by myself. Doing the work of five men, I thought, entitled me to drink. Alcohol was good for a man who over-worked. I noted its effect on my small crew, when, breaking their backs and hearts at heaving up anchor in forty fathoms, they knocked off gasping and trembling at the end of half an hour and had new life put into them by stiff jolts of rum. They caught their breaths, wiped their mouths, and went to it again with a will. And when we careened the Snark and had to work in the water to our necks between shocks of fever, I noted how raw trade rum helped the work along.

    And here again we come to another side of many-sided John Barleycorn. On the face of it, he gives something for nothing. Where no strength remains he finds new strength. The wearied one rises to greater effort. For the time being there is an actual accession of strength. I remember passing coal on an ocean steamer through eight days of hell, during which time we coal-passers were kept to the job by being fed with whisky. We toiled half drunk all the time. And without the whisky we could not have passed the coal.

    This strength John Barleycorn gives is not fictitious strength. It is real strength. But it is manufactured out of the sources of strength, and it must ultimately be paid for, and with interest. But what weary human will look so far ahead? He takes this apparently miraculous accession of strength at its face value. And many an overworked business and professional man, as well as a harried common labourer, has travelled John Barleycorn’s death road because of this mistake.”

    #11082
    baconperrier
    Participant

    I still don’t like soda very much, but it’s definitely the food I’ve been completely scared of for the past 10 years, even when I haven’t actively been dieting.

    But now, Mexi-Coke is BACK.

    I also love beer and wine, but those are more problematic..

    #11083
    David
    Moderator

    @Steven- Great quote. I once read an interesting theory, although offhand I can’t remember where, that early humans began cultivating grains not for an easy source of bread, but for an easy source of beer. It makes sense to me. If I were going to give up a relatively carefree life of hunter-gathering for the drudgery of field work, it sure as hell wouldn’t be for boring old bread–but I might just do it for the beer.

    I don’t want to minimize the physical and social damage caused by alcoholism, but I also don’t think that alcoholic drinks are the great health scurge that many people often claim–although of course individual cases will vary.

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