February 25, 2014 at 8:23 pm #15380
Is there anyone here that has stuck with eat for heat for 1-2 years and has lost the gained weight? Or can anyone supply links to posts of such people? It seems that most of the testimonials of people losing weight are of those who lost it early on. Why aren’t there more pictures and stories of those that gained and then lost since that seems to be the story we all hope for?
February 26, 2014 at 8:33 pm #15415shezianParticipant
- This topic was modified 9 years, 7 months ago by Christinam.
Probably because there aren’t none, because thats exactly what l am wondering. I mean its easy to make all these claims and write all these books, anybody can do that, but show me the people this has worked for.February 26, 2014 at 10:22 pm #15422
Agreed Shezian. I’m not trying to bash anyone. But I think that Matt needs to face these questions. I had a consultation with him a week ago and he was answering some of my questions on Skype. But my last questions about wanting more proof were left unanswered. Making claims like he does will be questioned since they are not mainstream. I haven’t seen recent pictures of him. But he is said to be on the heavy side. There is a website called youreatopia that helps people recover from eating disorders and has people eat 2500+ kcal per day and not exercise much. Similar concept. Most of them also become overweight and stay there and some lose the weight and come down to their “set point” weight once they are done refeeding and only eat when hungry. There isn’t much proof there either-as in pictures. On the other hand, there is lots of proof that diets don’t work either since restriction leads to binges and most gain the weight back plus some. What worked best for me, was to eat dense foods that I want when hungry and stop when not hungry anymore. But I still have cold hands doing that. But I’ll keep the cold hands if the trade off is being overweight in the long run.February 27, 2014 at 10:20 am #15436StephanieMichelleParticipant
Christinam I understand your concern. I was bulimic and definitely did need to recover, but I wasn’t underweight. I followed the advice on youreatopia and gained quite a bit of weight- which made me uncomfortable and more depressed. I was the biggest I’ve ever been. I had my son four months ago and I’m slimmer now than I was before I got pregnant. I eat what I want but try to make ‘healthy’ choices (ie we don’t buy chips, candy, cheap junk food, etc). I also cook almost all of our food. I’ve had much more luck with this than eating for heat or youreatopia’s guidelines. I rarely feel cold, and I’ve started taking my baby for 2 mile walks to get outside and get some exercise. I really have to be careful that I don’t fall back into ED behaviors because of my history, but I recognize the signs and won’t go down that road again.
As far as youreatopia results, I only know one woman who supposedly tapered (there were no pictures). I stopped visiting the site because I’m recovered and I don’t agree with some of Gwyn’s posts. Anyways, I hope you figure things out. I was at the same point as you a year ago, being at an uncomfortable weight sucks and most of the ‘alternative’ health advice did nothing for me.February 27, 2014 at 10:29 am #15437
Thank you Stephanie, I already decided to to just that. I will eat dense foods like oats, sweet potatoes, quinoa with coconut milk, salt and fruit like bananas, dates etc and move away from ice cream, cream cheese, bread etc.. And I will still exercise a moderate amount. That way I will just try and eat enough to keep my temp. up and stay in the normal weight range. What seems to put the most weight on for me, is dairy and bread with butter/jam..February 28, 2014 at 1:37 am #15455
You might check out this blog. https://gokaleo.com
I’m in a group with Amber and have read on her site. I’m pretty sure that in the pictures across the top of her blog she *weighs* about the same. Are we after a number on the scale? or health? That’s what I’m facing and accepting. I don’t know what my healthy body will look like, but I want to feel good, be strong, flexible, easily walk around and be able to lift things.
I’m also reading “Healthy at Every Size” by Linda Bacon. Matt and Amber both recommend this book. It’s helping me reframe my thinking about what’s reasonable and what’s healthy and what’s really important to me.February 28, 2014 at 1:54 am #15456
There’s also an ETF (Eat the Food) group on Facebook, not directly linked to Matt that I know of, but backed by Amber and Antonio Valladeres and other wise, caring souls. This is a link to the success stories. You might have to join the group to get to it.February 28, 2014 at 2:06 am #15457
I’m re-reading the “What to Expect” chapter in Diet Recovery 2. Matt talks about all this there, ending the chapter with:
“I can’t, in good conscience, recommend you do anything other than continue to follow the high metabolism and good physical functioning where it leads, and see it through to the end of the cycle?even if it takes several years. I have a feelings, based on my own experience and that of others like personal trainer Billy Craig who has guided dozens of people through the process of high-calorie weight loss, that persistently maintaining a high metabolic rate and eating abundantly on a regular schedule while doing progress-oriented exercise, getting good sleep, and avoiding the yo-yo rollercoaster like the plague, the body fat will eventually come off.
If it does, great. If it doesn’t, at least you’re healthy and have made a very positive investment in your long-term well-being. One thing is for certain though, no diet or outrageous and unsustainable exercise regimen is going to fix the problem.”
I’m glad I read your posts today, because it led me back to read this encouragement again. Sure, I’d like fast, easy, slim results….but I really do want to be healthy and to enjoy food. So, I’m refocused on what I really want.
February 28, 2014 at 10:59 am #15464
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Thank you for your input Aimee! I’m with you and want this to work, also! The yoyo dieting isn’t fun. And I feel healthier when I eat more. But I also feel more insecure and don’t want to be as social which is unhealthy. Esp. my group of friends are very fit, at the beach a lot and my husband is at a perfect weight and muscular. I don’t want to be the one standing out as the chubbster even if everyone sais they love me. I know that it’s vain! And I might stick to this in the end anyway and get over it. But I want more proof! Kaleo would be great proof if she wasn’t a workout girl. She exercises a ton and eats mostly healthy so she isn’t really an example for Matt’s work in my mind. I read her book. This concept is brilliant though and I wish it worked. But if it does, then why aren’t there all these glowing examples with pictures. After all, they’ve been at it for 2+years, right? I’m just not ready to settle for the possibility of being overweight for the rest of my life.February 28, 2014 at 11:38 am #15466
Aimee, can you post a link to the testimonials of Billy Craig’s success?! I’m exited to see something like before and after pics. He must have them if he got such great results!February 28, 2014 at 11:48 am #15467
Also my mom is 78, in great health, eats lots of very healthy foods, is very slim and still has cold hands and feet often. Is she doing that horrible?
And my sister always ate lots of junk like pizza and also salads, yogurt, drank lots of water etc and is and has always been super warm. But now she has an anxiety disorder. Maybe from drinking lots of wine? But she’s never had a problem with body heat, even when very skinny.
It’s really hard to weed through the info.I have a history of buying into great ideas and now I ask more questions and am more cautious.
Aimee, I couldn’t use the link. The page is unavailable. And I searched on FB-no luck.
March 2, 2014 at 2:30 am #15603
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Christinam, I’m glad you’ve read the newsletter. I just did, too, then saw your comment. I read your answers here, but just didn’t know what to say next. :) I was right to wait, Matt stepped in.
I don’t know any more about Billy Craig, sorry.
The group on Facebook is “Eating the Food”. Hope this helps.March 2, 2014 at 9:40 am #15608
Aimee you are sweet (: I continue to find a balance for me. Eating plenty, keeping my temperature up best I can and exercising a little in order not to gain too much. Hopefully, more motivation will keep showing up on the horizon (;
March 2, 2014 at 10:32 am #15613prancieParticipant
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I cannot recall ever reading Matt Stone say that weight loss was a sure thing following his plan. He has always said it MIGHT happen and that health is better than being thin in the way that media portrays. I did gain weight but that was coming off a too restrictive diet that I should not have been on in the first place. My weight gain has halted and I have gained a lot of muscle (I lift a lot), but no more weight, so some of that must be a swap.
the previous comments mentioned gokaleo and health at every size, they are great referencesMarch 2, 2014 at 10:46 am #15614StephanieMichelleParticipant
Christinam I completely understand wanting to look good. That’s the point I got to. I’m 25 and I don’t want to spend my 20s unhappy with my body. I didn’t like how I looked when I was 20 lbs heavier. It was also very uncomfortable carrying that extra weight around (we went on a tropical vacation a year ago- holy chafing!). I’m much more comfortable in my body now. What I’m doing is not yo yo dieting or unsustainable. It’s just moving more and cooking my own food. I’m also very healthy. Good luck, I hope you can figure out a good balance.
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