November 29, 2013 at 3:24 pm #13957
I’ve been RRARFing for approximately a week and a half. Fairly new to this whole program but like Matt, have tried everything under the sun which ultimately has led me to his program. I’ve consistently averaged 97.7-97.8 upon rising but for the life of me cannot reach 98 and above. Since implementing Matt’s ideas my hands have consistently become warmer, however I cannot seem to reach 98 regularly. Occasionally, after a large meal, I’ll encounter a stressful situation where I’ll notice a surge of warmth. My guess is adrenalin combined with hypercaloric intake = warmth.
I was wondering how long it has taken the majority of folks to stabilize at 98.6? Any stories or experience learned on your road to good health would be much appreciated and encouraged.November 30, 2013 at 11:57 pm #13979Steven eParticipant
I would guess it could easily take longer than that. For me my temps would only go up if I ate and then rested immediately after eating. If I got up and did almost anything, it would go back down. That went on for weeks at least. Eventually it started going up when I was up more of the time and then even going down when I lay down, which is more how it’s supposed to be. I still have waking temps around 97.6 to 97.8 most of the time. I gave up on trying to force that any higher and just hope it happens someday as I become healthier and rebuild years of damage. I remember being 98.6 a lot when I was younger. like that really was the number. Now I’m all over the place often experience temps 98.9 to 99.5 during the evening rise sometimes between 4:00 and 7:00 pm. I think there is a lot of variety in people’s temps, so I wouldn’t put too much stock in 98.6 in particular. I’m assuming your day time temps are still low, and not just waking temps? In a phone consult, Matt didn’t seem particularly disturbed at my low sleeping and waking temps as long as my day time temps were pretty normal. I really did have to eat unrestrainedly to get them up. Now my appetite is normalized.December 1, 2013 at 7:23 pm #14009
Thanks for the reply Steven. I’m finding slow but steady progress upward. Since I’ve stopped working out and started force feeding calories, my temps have stabalized around 97.8 and even higher somedays. Positive notes are consistent warm hands and feet. I’m much more calm and collected as well. Per Matt’s book, he said to expect brain fog and coma like feeling while the adrenals repair. I’m doing everything I can to keep the feeling knowing this is a good sign as opposed to previously thought.
The next milestone I’m looking forward to is my memory and mood improving. I’ve already seen slight hints. As you mentioned, it’ll take longer than a few weeks to repair the years of damage we’ve done. Its nice to finally be on the right path!
Cheers!December 2, 2013 at 3:40 am #14045T WillParticipant
Yeah, I think it’s going to take a little bit before you temperatures start stabilizing. I’ve been raising my metabolism for about a year now, and I still wake up in the low 97’s. My general feeling of being warm however, is very good. Usually I’m one of the warmer people in the room. Just make sure you’re eating enough, and eating whatever you want. Things will start working better soonDecember 3, 2013 at 10:34 pm #14078DellaParticipant
TWill how did you impair your metabolism initially? Was it through dieting or another aliment?December 4, 2013 at 8:13 pm #14113islandsneezerParticipant
I’m reading this with keen interest because I’m just now starting RRARF. My waking temps have been 95 and 96 degrees the last three mornings and I’ve been slowly making changes cause I’m coming off 2.5 years of the HCG protocol and it’s a real mental shift I’m having to make.December 5, 2013 at 2:21 am #14125
The challenge for me personally is getting enough calories. The program takes practice. I am not out of the woods either. Regularly seeing 97.8.. throughout the day with the occasional bump into the 98 degrees.December 30, 2013 at 4:09 am #14371T WillParticipant
Who knows how I wrecked my metabolism. I’ve symptoms of low metabolism as long as I can remember, but I felt energetic as a kid. I always ate enough because I couldn’t go long without food. The healthier I ate the worse I felt over the course of three years. Then I got tired of putting time and effort into being healthy, when it wasn’t paying off. Then I found Matt Stone, and started eating whatever I wanted as much of what I wanted. I have put 55 pounds in the last year, but little of it is body fat. That might me because I never have dieted?January 9, 2014 at 3:08 pm #14593RichRPhParticipant
If you are having difficulty getting your temp up it could be an iodine deficiency. I take Lugols solution and it really helps. If that is not enough than I would suspect a low functioning thyroid. I also have been taking a thyroid extract from Swansons, but since I started exercising I have been able to cut back. I also recommend the Exergen temporal thermometer. I never had much success with oral temps. You can now get one at Walmart. It is a great investment.January 10, 2014 at 6:00 pm #14602Human TorchParticipant
It took me 5 months to go from 96.8 to an average of 98.6, (Vicks oral). I’ve hit 99.0 some mornings. Keeps getting higher every month. And I’m eating 15 servings of raw fruits and veggies a day. Adding in the raw produce lowered my temp to 98.2 for a few weeks but it came right back up and surpassed previous highs. I add a 1/4 tsp of salt to each serving though. I have to sleep 10-12 hours a day to get those temps though. Hoping to need less sleep as time goes on. A combo of HIT weight training and lots of walking keeps my temps up. Medium intensity exercise makes it plummet and gives me insomnia.January 13, 2014 at 11:22 pm #14650paulParticipant
Judging from the comments here, the method Matt encourages (RRARF) to bring up temps does not work. Also, there’s too much info missing – such as what is the state of the thyroid of those not succeeding in raising temps? I got my temps up with thyroid meds. No other method (such as continually pigging out) is bound to work unless the thyroid is functional. Get real.January 14, 2014 at 12:27 am #14651Steven eParticipant
You’ve judged wrong Paul. It clearly doesn’t work for everyone, but it works for a lot of people, including me. My life is way better post re-feeding and right now I’m running around outside in a tee shirt digging an 8 foot hole in the moonlight at 1800′ feet on a not super warm night because I’m FUCKIN’ STOKED! http://www.theonion.com/video/report-most-college-males-admit-to-regularly-getti,14386/ You are probably right that pigging out and Matt’s other suggestions are not going to work if the thyroid is truly broken, but it is just turned down in a lot of people by an unhappy body that needs some rest and re-building. If someone is low temp, it seems a lot better to give lifestyle modifications a try rather than just go on meds indefinitely, when it does work for so many people. Your sampling of information here may be a little small. I’ll go back to my hole now.January 15, 2014 at 2:41 am #14665rohan1413Participant
I’m kinda in a weird spot; I’m not really refeeding or anything. I wakeup anywhere from the low 96s to the high 97s depending on whether I ate/slept enough the day before, but after I have my morning shower I am always above 98 degrees unless I miss a meal or chug liquids. Trouble is I still have the low metabolism signs. Anyone else deal with this?
I’m also fairly young (21) if that means anythingJanuary 20, 2014 at 1:44 pm #14717
Update. Since I began this journey back in November 13, I’ve hung around 97.8 for the longest time. I’ve slept an average of 10hrs a night, completely stopped exercising, and eaten a more modest standard American diet. Yesterday I hit a milestone. For a period of the afternoon, my temp hit 99.2 and hovered above 98.6. My energy levels are up and I’ve started dropping weight as Matt mentioned. I’m hoping a few more months of low stress and extra sleep will bring my temp up permanently.
For those of you wondering if this works, I would say “yes” it does. The keys are lowering both physical and mental stress, eating well with “lots” of healthy fats while avoiding PUFAs and sleeping as much as possible.
To be continued…January 25, 2014 at 4:00 pm #14765kamberayParticipant
Ann Marie at Cheeseslave has an inspiring post..
She followed Matt’s advice, cooked with mainly good saturated fats, stabilized at 98.6 and then lost the weight while maintaining her temps.
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