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  • in reply to: Official Buteyko Thread #16444
    dongordon
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    j-lo, your post about the Buteyko CP is spot on. As a Buteyko educator, I use the CP as a diagnostic tool for me, not a goal for my clients. At the end of the day, the only thing important is how you feel. I have seen clients with high CP’s that were still not feeling well. I’ve seen clients after a few week’s of breathing exercises who fell much better and who’s CP did not move. The “type a” clients often focus so much on the CP, they loose track of what is important and interestingly, their CP usually does not improve much.

    This is why a good Buteyko educator will use a “symptom tracker” to manage/monitor a client’s progress. For me, each time the client comes in for a coaching session, I give them their symptom tracker and ask them to rate their symptom severity. I will do a CP test with them during each session along with some other diagnostic checks, but the symptom tracker is the most important one for determining their progress. It is not unusual to see symptom reduction of 15%-20% in the first week and 80% plus over the 4-6 weeks of breath retraining.

    You are also correct that Buteyko is not perfect and is not for everyone. However, for most who follow their educator’s directions, do the breathing exercises (mechanics) correctly and put the time into it come out feeling better. I and many other Buteyko educators offer clients a money back guarantee if they are not satisfied with the results. I’ve not had to give anyone their money back yet.

    Again you are correct, how you feel is all that’s important. The CP is just a tool.

    All the best and health,
    Don Gordon
    Registered Buteyko Breathing Educator
    http://www.TheBreathingGuy.com

    in reply to: Official Buteyko Thread #16421
    dongordon
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    Hi Dave!

    By way of introduction I am a Buteyko Educator and Vice-chairman of the Buteyko Breathing Educators Association. I’m glad you started with Buteyko as the symptoms you list are mostly consistent with the types of problems we deal with. Allow me to address some of your concerns.

    It seems you are working Buteyko on your own without a registered educator assisting you. You noted you are only practicing Buteyko once a day and it appears you CP is below 20. When you CP is below 20, you need to do Buteyko breathing exercises for at least 90 minutes a day; it’s better if the exercises spread throughout the day and not all at once. If your CP is below 20 seconds, you will only see modest and temporary relief of symptoms. You should see longer lasting symptom relief when your CP goes through 20 seconds.

    If I am understanding you correctly, you feel you have to go hours without food after doing Buteyko exercises. That is not how I and most educators would proceed. I encourage my clients to eat when hungry but try to do their Buteyko exercises prior to eating; best done on an empty stomach.

    I’ve tried to find links to Eat the Food to see what the diet consists of. All though a secondary factor in why we over-breathe, food plays a huge role in breathing with highly processed foods or sugary/starchy foods contributing to over-breathing and the resulting loss of CO2. An alkaline diet is the best for breathing.

    I would recommend you speak with a registered Buteyko educator, have them evaluate your breathing and review the Buteyko exercises you are doing. You can find one in your area at the following website. http://www.buteykoeducators.org/ If there isn’t an educator in your area, many will do visitor or SKYPE sessions with you.

    You may also want to do a formal training with an educator. Some of the exercises are a bit tricky to do correctly and there are a number of other components, breathing mechanics, posture, source of the breath, etc., that are important to address. Learning how to do exercises and other factors properly truly helps the process.

    Let me know if I can answer any questions. I hope you continue with Buteyko as it is a most powerful modality. In my case, my asthma, allergies, chronic bronchitis and Raynauds (cold hands and feet) were relieved in about 10 days of doing Buteyko. I’ve been over nine years now without any symptoms and use no medication. My website is http://www.TheBreathingGuy.com and my email is don@CascadeBreath.com

    Good luck!

    in reply to: Official Buteyko Thread #9014
    dongordon
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    Hi Sophie!

    By way of introduction, I am a Buteyko Breathing Technique Educator. I studied under Patrick McKeown, the author of “Close Your Mouth”.

    You mentioned you are finding reduced breathing creating anxiety. This is not unusual and I see in many clients. Reduced breathing can make you feel like you are suffocating if you reduce your breathing too much. You have to find, what I call the perfect spot, especially when you are starting. The place where the breathing is reduced but without causing any tension. A good Buteyko educator could help you with this. We have techniques to help clients find the perfect balance and avoid the anxiety.

    Also I would not use the Control Pause or a Maximum Pause if a client was experiencing anxiety. I would slow the process down and do very gentle relaxed breathing first and later do the stronger reduced breathing. One size does not fit all with the Buteyko Breathing Technique and I adjust the technique to each individual. I equate it to lifting 300 pounds in the gym. If you’ve never done this before or had only lift a bit of weight, you would not go into the gym at first and lift 300 pounds. You’d probably start with 30 pounds and work your way up. The same is try with Buteyko. Start slow based on what your body can tolerate and work your way up.

    To find a registered educator, go to http://www.buteykoeducation.org/ and click on the “Find An Educator” button. From there you can look up an educator in your area.

    Let me know if you have any questions. I’d be glad to help.

    All the best and health,
    Don

    Don Gordon
    Registered Buteyko Educator – CascadeBreath LLC – Bend, Oregon
    Vice-Chairman – The Buteyko Breathing Educators Association
    website: http://www.TheBreathingGuy.com
    email:don@CascadeBreath.com

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