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  • in reply to: desperate teenagers #11222
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    Caz, I’ll look into it again. Was worried it was messing with iron. I know it’s important for mood and concentration which is a big one for teenagers. With all the vitamin/mineral confusion I mainly give my family the ones that they get deficiency symptoms if I don’t, and zinc is one of those, so maybe I need to stick to the plan here. Thanks for the reminder!
    Jdubs, that’s exactly what did it for me. And old photos show I had a seriously messed up self image because I actually looked great. In a way, our daughters are lucky to have a generation before them that got messed up in terms of health and weight and are hopefully able to help them out a bit. Plus some sign of better social attitudes to weight, thanks to some of the more real stars ,and the ‘serious booty’ fashion taking over from the wasted-vegan-look predecessor! Long way to go though, till we stop thinking a glowing gorgeous girl with some womanly curves is fat because she’s not a strung out looking coat hanger with old lady skin. My daughter does really know this, but unsurprisingly, she’s also not immune, and we do not live on an island, but then, not even islanders do anymore!

    in reply to: desperate teenagers #11170
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    Thank you Saisrice and Jdubs for such thoughtful replies. Saisrice, that curves site is lovely. I think they’re all so sweet and so beautiful, and Kelly Clarkson – love her! My daughter loves her bathtimes so I’m going to see what I can do to make them treaty and relaxing too. I pack her a lunch and I think she is sensible about it, though some of the diet fads I hear about from school make my hair curl. Like moms putting 13 year olds and younger on diets omg.
    Jdubs I so agree about the social media. I think the best balancer for all that crazy stuff is a strong relationship and luckily my daughter and I are close and because my husband brings in our income I do have the time to put into our kids. I think that kids need a ton of time with their parents, and I feel the weight of that responsibility as I know I am her anchor and her guide. Without all I can give her she’d be fine on the surface, but I just know that underneath would be a very different story. Just last week one of the girls who used to be in her class attempted suicide by running out into the traffic and got hit by a car with multiple fractures. She’s 16 and her mom has not been lucky enough to be able to spend as much time and emotional energy on her. The scary thing is, that grounding takes so much more work these days due to so much undermining, our kids are such media and marketing targets. At the same time so many mothers I know are less and less able to give as much support and sanity as is needed to counterbalance all that, because of work and too much on their own shoulders – and because of being asleep themselves in the many ways we consumers are.
    That world of mobile internet is hitting my generation of parents and their kids from out of the blue. Even kids a few years older did not encounter the smart phone and all the “possibilities” at 13 or younger. I would have kept it away from my kids, but one of the hardest things about parenting is trying to stick to your beliefs while not being so ‘weird’ and different that your kids can’t handle it. Mobile internet and these smartphones are a vast social experiment we never signed up for and the designers of which I know (if my 20 years experience of marketing people counts, which I think it does) never gave a second’s worth of their shallow thought to the social consequences that might follow. At the very least you feel like you have a zombie in the house as they go down the plughole of facebook, twitter and all the rest – I lost her for 2 years this way! Anyway, she’s back but I feel like I had to bust her out of a cult or something. I do not like the times I was born into and I like the times my kids were born into considerably less.
    Excuse the long rant! And thanks for the support, this is a great community.

    in reply to: Hormonal Nausea #11088
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    Lynn, which ones sound like adrenal symptoms?

    in reply to: desperate teenagers #11087
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    Thanks Amy and Saisrice! I think she will not overdo the exercise – I’ve suggested 15 minutes of brisk walking the dogs a day. She struggles to sleep which is a problem – sometimes I find her in the kitchen at 3 – she hasn’t slept yet, and I’ve woken and won’t sleep again – overlap!!
    I also forgot to mention heavy painful periods with cramps and clotting. I must look into the thyroid-iron connection and these symptoms.
    I used to give her zinc but I stopped in case it’s affecting iron. And anyway her skin is good for a 16 year old.
    I tell her I am a walking example of why NOT to diet, and that unlike me she at least has a non-judgemental understanding home environment, not like that “You’re just greedy/lazy, just stick to 3 meals a day, what’s so hard about that?” mentality I grew up with!

    in reply to: Liberation From Recipes: Cooking Without A Map #10883
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    intuitive butternut squash soup: fry on low heat onions, garlic in tons of butter and coconut oil, adding the chopped squash a bit later once the onions are pretty well cooked, golden but not yet too dark as it has plenty more frying to do. then caramelize on low heat the whole lot till the squash is completely cooked, would be divine to eat it just like that. Then blend it. Then add homemade chicken stock to the consistency you like. then add salt. cream if you like it even richer but this is plenty rich. gets rave reviews. no water, no boiling = no watery soup!

    in reply to: Food websites #10882
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    Thanks Betsy, I’ll give it a try!

    in reply to: Ssshhhhh!!! Quiet by Susan Cain #10833
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    I’m hearing sensitive too, very. scents, too. I also got a chronic infection diagnosis (rickettsia) and treatment, which helped a lot but not entirely and yes I do think there is something to it. But the doc herself admitted there was something else underlying it that made some people get it and others not. I pondered that for years, and now I think that it is a constitutional weakness like low metab. In my case I also suspect a long term somewhat unhappy liver, having been asked years ago by another doc if I was an alcoholic due to liver enzymes! (I drink almost nothing, because guess what my liver hates it and I get hangover symptoms with the 2nd drink, and 90% time don’t even want 1 let alone 2 or more.)
    I’m feeling a lot better liver-wise on eggs, chicken liver pate and dandelion tea by the way. And whatever else I can do to handle estrogen, which in my case is milky sweet coffee, and progesterone cream for now. Also Steven I read one of your posts in I think the exercise section and other than wondering where the guinea fowl came from (!) I recognized many of my same symptoms but couldn’t reply at the time.So just in case it helps and if I recall this one correctly: aching feet and ankles has been a big one for me. I think it’s meant to be uric acid from too much meat before. It took ages to go but it did go.

    in reply to: Ray Peat quotes #10831
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    … I’m such a nerd ;)

    in reply to: Ray Peat quotes #10829
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    Matt, a belated thank you for the RP quotes. So great to have them cherrypicked, and so much food for thought there. I made notes!

    in reply to: Food websites #10828
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    Thanks Betsy, I think a blend might be the best for the mayo. Am going to scrutinize some good quality brand labels …
    Julie, I had the butter melted on the windowsill in the sun till very very soft, almost liquid – it combined fine but as for the ‘beat till fluffy and white, no visible sugar grains left’ bit – life’s too darn short ;) think it makes much difference?
    It’s a recipe from a friend who got it from her grandmother. But she neglected to mention that her grandmother was a Bulgarian Olympic weightlifter in the days before they got busted for steroids! Or so I assume, anyway.

    in reply to: Food websites #10798
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    trading recipes anyone?

    I have a great recipe that I got off a link in a comment to a 180 post a good while back. it’s for NO KNEAD BREAD and I think it’s a NY Times link. If anyone wants it and can’t find it let me know and i’ll type it out and post it here.

    the brilliance of it is:
    1. it’s a perfect ciabatta loaf like you buy at bakeries for about 3 times the price that I can make it at home
    2. it’s almost no work – about 30 seconds in the beginning and another 30 seconds |(seriously) another 12 hours later and that’s it other than putting it in the oven. what ‘work’ there is ,is just planning and timing, setting the oven etc.
    3. the ingredients are simple – flour, a bit of salt and yeast and water.
    if like me you like a simple clean tasting not cakey bread.
    4. like they say, no kneading!
    I recommend making the dough one evening and baking it the next – I call it 24 hour bread.
    I make 2 loaves every 2nd day. note – in summer I think it may be better to keep the dough in a cool place – I get better results now that temps range between 2-22 degrees Celsius out there than I got when it was hotter.

    I’m looking for:
    1. an easy, quick, simple, ideally coconut oil / or second best, butter cookie, a simple no frills foolproof cheap everyday staple with just a couple of ingredients. I’d really like not to have to cream the butter and sugar ;) but also do not have a kitchen full of expensive gadgets! a cookie equivalent of the no-knead bread!
    2. another staple – a pufa free mayonnaise without a too-strong olive oil taste – is there any point using a processed olive oil for a blander taste, or is the damage due to processing too pufa-like? anyone know?

    I’m all for cooking from scratch but the key is simplicity, economy and deliciousness, hence sustainability! other winners I can share if anyone is interested is chicken liver pate, a little trick for the best butternut soup, a great recipe for a Portuguese style chicken which develops its own gel in its marinade, suggesting great nutrients and gelatin from the bones. tried and tested family recipes.

    in reply to: Hormonal Nausea #10797
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    I have experience with nausea, and it is the worst, possibly worse than the worst migraine I’ve ever had. In my case (and this is hormonally relevant) I have long suspected an unhappy liver, and I’ve found that eating to recover from restrictive eating made a good few things much worse for quite a while, one of them being (still the case) my liver. As the liver detoxes oestrogen I suspect in my case low progesterone and estrogen overload. What has helped me a lot – cured the nausea in fact:) is an egg or two a day for the choline, and I’m craving, and making, and eating, chicken liver pate. (When not too nauseaous to eat, do you eat eggs? You might not feel like them to begin with but that should change in a matter of a couple of days as you feel better. If not then maybe this is not the route for you) I’ve also recently added dandelion tea. All these measures have helped a lot.
    I had the aversion to smells too. I too loathe vomiting. I’ve always had a tendency to nausea – car sickness for example, but when the nauseous patches got really bad I saw a link to a choline article in a 180 post and remembered that I had not had eggs for months. I’m the kind of person who needs and feels better on levels of animal protein and fat that are not too low, and some fruit every day. Perhaps thinking back to what you ate long before the troubles began will give you some clues too. Good luck, I hope you soon leave that awful feeling behind!

    in reply to: Ssshhhhh!!! Quiet by Susan Cain #10796
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    Me too. Social occasions are hard work and drain me. I watch the extroverts visibly pump up with energy as the evening progresses, while I just wear out -fast. About the party babble – if I force myself to chat away, after an hour or two my tongue feels kind of loose and swollen in my mouth and I spout near-meaningless twaddle. When I’m really tired I can’t speak at all, the words form but I can’t get them out. It was like that when I had chronic fatigue. For years. Now I can get something out but it’s frustratingly meaningless and near incoherent! And I don’t even drink!

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    Mighty M, I’m 2 years into recovery from a near lifetime of dieting. I’m 49 and I started in my teens with low fat(recipe for blood sugar crashes and cravings) for most of that time, the orthorexics’ orthodoxy! Then the ‘health food’ phase, then I became a low then no carb zealot for 7 years sadly, during which migraines made an entrance for the first time, followed I regret to say by about 5 rounds of hcg. Of course I never even needed to diet in the first place so where do I start with the regrets ??
    Anyway. Needless to say I gained a ton on stopping all this, haven’t gone near a scale but I think about 60 pounds. I do think there’s a vicious cycle involving estrogen from excess fat and that is yet another trap I fell into but I don’t know how I could have avoided that.
    The recovery process: started with some rrarfing but really that did not last long before I just ate to appetite though that was often metabolism-dropping. Recently just to know where I stand I’ve done a bit of calorie counting, to find that in the past 2 months it has spontaneously dropped 300-500c a day to 2300-2500 which interestingly enough is about my goal weight maintenance level. Keeping an eagle eye on metabolism signals, they’re staying nice and level. So all that is good. It’s just these bad patches.

    The higher carb thing was in response to a blog by Matt (and people like David are talking about it now in the forums) about raising carbs even more but that made me feel ill. I’m now rediscovering the formula that really seems to work, the lifelong one when not obscured by orthorexia, of doing best on eggs for breakfast, quite a lot of fruit, and animal protein most dinners. It’s just these bad patches that derail me!

    I do agree that 1. getting your metabolism strong enough to exercise then 2. building muscle strength and general activity and 3. restricting ever so slightly so your body scarcely seems to notice, makes the best sense of anything I’ve read.

    If I was in your position (I wish I was;))I’d say firstly that 20 pounds is not crazy overweight and if it’s not rising, then if a realistic and enjoyable exercise approach can be sustained, and metabolism signs don’t drop, you’re so on the right track and the rest should follow!

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    Thanks Amy! I totally agree and am fascinated by Gokaleo and this possible way out of the trap. Also Kendahl has updates on her progress on exactly the same approach. I’ve been trying to gently head in that exact direction, and have been doing so for over a year in fact … but during the regular bad patches I get flareups of inflammation of old injuries plus I feel so ill I can’t continue, then as soon as I can, which is weeks or months later :( I start up again. Yesterday a flight of stairs had me dizzy and almost throwing up, so it’s quite a barrier. I’m trying to balance it as best I can to make it sustainable without being so low key that I forget I have a program at all! But even that is regularly ‘crashing’. Recently after 2 years I have had some important improvements such as normalized blood sugar which I am absolutely delighted about, slightly better energy, a teeny bit of weight loss off my middle, hence a bit less breathlessness. I do still think it makes good sense and I keep trying but if I could do something about the bad patches I’d make more progress. Hence the estrogen question. Thanks again for the input!

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