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The Real Amy
ModeratorDon’t have any experience with this, but I will note that heartburn-type issues are very often due to low stomach acid ironically (which causes the sphincter at the top of the stomach to not close properly so the still-somewhat-acidic juices leak out). Things like PPIs and baking soda will lower the acidity of the stomach, but then you are likely at risk for all of the problems associated with low stomach acid – like vit B12 deficiencies, etc. So I would be careful.
The Real Amy
ModeratorHi Bonitachica, While I got my period right back after coming off the pill (after being on for 15 years), I will say my body remained screwed up for a long time (ovarian cysts and all kinds of other problems). Still not sure it’s 100% recovered, 3 years later. A number of my friends have taken months and months to get a period post-pill. Being on it for 4 years isn’t likely to be as problematic as 10+, but I would not underestimate the issues it can cause. Have you seen a real endocrinologist?
I doubt it’s your weight that’s the problem, if you had the same weight with no issues pre-pill. However, if you were low-carb for awhile, that can cause a lot of metabolic issues that take time to heal.
How many carbs are you eating now? Sounds like you may be eating a very fat-heavy diet, WAPF-style. Make sure you are eating plenty of carbs. A well-balanced diet is really best – square meals. Even if you have a gluten problem, you should be fine with white rice and white potatoes. Make sure you’re listing to what your body wants to eat, not what you think you “should” be eating. No need to eat processed junk, in my opinion, but including some refined foods like white rice can be helpful. Eat to hunger, not past it.
Also, make sure you are getting plenty of sleep/relaxation.
The Real Amy
ModeratorStephanieMichelle. I totally agree with you. Moderation is an amazing thing. So great that you have found a good place!
The Real Amy
ModeratorDella, that’s great! Baby steps is what it’s all about. It gets easier. Hunger/fullness cues can take time (like a few months). When I was in recovery I was told it takes a full year of normal eating for your metabolism to really recover, and I think that’s true.
(BTW, I hope you have a good therapist to work with through all the feelings that come up as you recover. Once you start to get past the starvation-recovery stage, you start to deal with a lot of the emotions that you can ignore when you are starving, and you need to understand why you began starving yourself to begin with. All of that gets easier as well. Eating properly is step #1 in loving yourself and understanding that you are a worthwhile and valuable person.)
The Real Amy
ModeratorFWIW, I think your advice is really useful, David. It provides a different perspective from someone for whom things didn’t go so smoothly with the 180 plan.
I think the dogma has run stronger here and a lot of people overdo it on junk food, etc. Moderation is a good message.
The Real Amy
ModeratorI would generally agree. 2500 calories/day is low for a female athlete, though, and if 55% of that is fat, it doesn’t leave much for carbs (assuming you are eating a decent amount of protein), so you may be getting less fuel than your body needs. I’d be hesitant to make changes if all signs seem good, but maybe pay attention and be sure you’re listening to your body (such as: does it really enjoy the 55% fat? Or is it crying out for carbs?) Matt himself has said temp is not everything, but the caveat here is that low-carb diets feel really great at first as they boost stress hormones – you feel awesome until things start heading downhill. The body actually feels pretty good as it starts to break down (like with fasting), and the repercussions don’t always appear until a bit later.
The Real Amy
ModeratorAgreed. This forum isn’t where Matt’s energy is now. I try to check in every few days since people have questions and I’m supposed to be a moderator and I like to help people, but it’s not so lively.
I am not a big Facebooker so I miss that whole side of things. Like David, I am aiming for less Internet/social media these days.
The Real Amy
ModeratorI would recommend salt to taste. Once you do, you will see oatmeal with salt is much yummier. If you make it too salty, you will know.
The Real Amy
ModeratorIt’s a bit hard to describe in words, but to me, a hyperglycemic spike feels like a burst of too much energy at once and like my body is trying to cope with something. And my head gets a weird feeling. And I feel hot and thirsty. And anxious, like I cannot calm down.
I get the same anxious and hot feeling when I’m dehydrated.
The Real Amy
ModeratorI think it’s a non-issue for someone recovering from an ED. If you have the financial means to easily buy pasture-raised, organic eggs and chicken, then by all means do so. But don’t sweat it at all. The most important thing right now is for you to get enough calories, protein and nutrients. Yeah, I would steer clear of refined veggie oils as much as you can and use butter, ghee, coconut oil, olive oil. But the AA acid issue is more of a long-term issue, and also more of an issue in an unbalanced diet – eat a variety of meats and fish, not only chicken.
One of the most important things you can do is overcome orthorexia, which goes hand-in-hand with anorexia. You can find something wrong with any food if you look hard enough. In the end, those with an overall healthy and balanced diet will come out ahead.
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ModeratorI second the exercise suggestion. It’s really the #1 proven thing to lower the risk of diabetes and reverse pre-diabetes. Even if it’s just walking (which can also lower your stress levels).
The other thing is do whatever you can to lower your stress levels. Meditation has been shown to be effective in all kinds of health outcomes, so if you can do that, bonus. Stress has been shown to increase diabetes risk.
I think David’s diet suggestions sound smart, too, and you can adjust based on how your body feels.
The Real Amy
ModeratorBauerPower, my one suggestion is making sure you eat enough salt. Hyponatremia feels a lot like hyponatremia, and can even mimic reactive hypoglycemia a little bit. (I’ve learned dehydration also feels a lot like a hyperglycemic spike – so weird)
The Real Amy
ModeratorOh, also, I will add that you need to be sure that you eat 3 proper meals plus 1-2 snack every day, no matter what. Do not skip one single meal, even if you are not hungry, even if you binged the night before, whatever. You need to get your body back on a regular eating schedule. That helps your body relax and proper eating cues come back.
The Real Amy
ModeratorDella, I’m so glad you’re back on track, and I’m glad that I was able to be helpful :-) When fasting, you were probably mustering up the last little bit of stress hormones your body could provide before collapsing. Now the important thing is to rebuild and restore. You deserve a healthy and happy life and a good recovery, too! Self-love is the most difficult thing (still working on it…) but the most important thing you can do.
The best way I’ve found to think about meals are in terms of including a carb, protein and fat, and thinking about what your grandma would have considered a “square meal.” Some examples are below to give you an idea, but please note I am not sure what your calorie needs are and you may need to adjust. I tried to make this decently hearty since your food needs are pretty high right now and you don’t want to be filling up on salads. Do not skimp on meat portions since protein will help your body build back up, and you need to have enough protein as well as enough overall calories.
Breakfast:
-Couple of pieces toast with butter, scrambled eggs, piece of fruit or OJ
-Bagel with cream cheese or peanut butter, banana
-whole milk yogurt with granola and fruit or dried fruit on top
-oatmeal with cream and dried fruit on top, plus a yogurtLunch:
-The traditional: sandwich with a generous amount of meat/tuna in it, maybe some crackers or chips or a small salad with dressing, yogurt and fruit or a few cookies
-bowl of meat-based chili, baked potato with butter or sour cream, fruit, cookies or yogurtSnacks:
-things like cheese and crackers, yogurt and fruit, or cookies and a glass of whole milkDinner:
-Roast chicken; mashed potatoes with butter; roasted veggies; dessert (ice cream, fruit compote, or whatever else you want)
-pasta with bolognese sauce; small salad with dressing, or cooked veggies with butter; dessert
-cup of cream-based veggie soup; Beef stew over rice; dessertI hope this helps!
The Real Amy
ModeratorDella, also, I just looked at your other thread, and it looks like you were fasting?? That is going to cause you HUGE problems, as you know. That is a bad sign of a relapse. I highly recommend you connect with your therapist – do you have a treatment team? It is very hard to do this on your own.
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