I learned some fascinating things about Bernarr MacFadden recently. Originally I thought he was just some dude who wrote a book about milk fasting and a couple others. Sure, I was impressed with the level of thought put into his The Miracle of Milk, but had no idea that he was like the O.G. Renegade Health Gangsta. The guy had some kind of fetish for using natural methods to heal disease, avoiding mainstream medicine, body sculpting, and creating little health communes and “cities” where his notorious “physical culture” could reign supreme. Sounds like my kinda guy. You can read more about him at http://www.bernarrmacfadden.com/. He wrote and published over 100 books!
Listen to more about Bernarr, and my day 7 Raw Milk Diet update in the video below.
You are looking leaner in that video (though tired). :-)
Way to weather the detox. It varies from person to person but when it happens it can be a bear. Some stick it out, others don't.
Mr. McFadden was a very interesting man, to say the least.
I lost a lot of weight in the first 4 days (3.5 pounds).
The mucous is clearing up a little bit, but I don't know. I coached myself through it and imagined it washing out the pipes and taking some gunk out with it.
I'm in it to see where it leads though captain. Every discomfort I experience I blame it all on you and then yell at you in my head.
I'm in it to see where it leads though captain. Every discomfort I experience I blame it all on you and then yell at you in my head.
LOL!
I'm blaming it on McAfee's milk. I have always heard mixed reports about that stuff. :-)
When I was in California (mid-90's) as a student the Stueve Brothers were the Mark McAfee of the day, until they sold out to Alta Dena Dairy, and their raw milk brand (Stueve) eventually went out of business in 1999.
Back then you could even have the milk (and kefir) delivered to your door or pick it up at a drive-thru food place on the main drag in town.
Don't recall ever attempting the Milk Diet on their stuff. We found some very tasty goat milk and went with that for the most part.
One thing I learned recently is that I can pound a ton of goat milk at one sitting with no issues whatsoever. With cows milk I have to do the 8 oz/30 minute thing or something similar to avoid a churning stomach or stool issues.
If the mucous doesn't clear up you might want to trying switching the source of your milk. Mucous production as part of the healing process should not last the entirety of the "fast", at least not from my experience.
One day in the not so far flung future I am going to be set up for some serious clinical observation and more N=1 experimentation (and fun!) in a distant beautiful island paradise. Then I can really drill down on some of this stuff w/other people in a very short period of time instead of the many years it has taken me thus far.
All the Milk-A-Teers can fly out and be my guest.
We can run around the island with Kitavan style sarongs and have huge tater and steak feasts while basking in the sunlight on the pristine beaches :-)
Aaaah, McFadden, a physically healthy man. Not so much mentally though. He seemed to had some issues, if ya know what I mean… A "little" obsessesed with manliness, among other things.
BTW, I would kill to get some goats milk. I love milk, but it hates me.
On second thought, maybe the man (Bernarr), wasn't made for its time. Still think he was nuts though.
Is raw goats milk that much better? I have access to it but it's over twice the price as raw cows milk.
Is raw goats milk that much better? I have access to it but it's over twice the price as raw cows milk.
It is if you have a tolerance problem with cows milk. :-) Goats by the way are the premier milk animal in the world yet have avoided all the genetic manipulation associated with dairy cows.
The variation in taste can be a problem. I've had very tasty to very gamey/goaty. No thanks on the latter.
The price is why I am still drinking cow milk during the Milk Diet.
Sarongs on the beach? That beats overalls in the Appalachians any day. Looks like our commune is moving seaside…
Hi Matt,
Not overly relevent to Bernarr McFadden but I thought you might be interested in this article in The Independent (British newspaper) yesterday:
http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-families/features/donrsquot-blame-it-on-the-burgers-1970487.html
Looks like at least some truth is leaking through to the mainstream press!
Matt,
Watch the mucus build up and any pressure leading up into your ear. Having my ear explode on the milk diet was the most painful experience of my life, you definitely don't want to go through it. Maybe you could find an Ayurvedic doc where you are at since you are in Cali. They might be able to give you something to counterbalance the mucus and other negative effects of the excess milk.
Do you notice what you are craving on this diet? Fatty meat and greens! What gives you problems- carbs and sugars. Dude, your body is giving you more and more clues that you should be on a higher fat, more moderate carb diet, maybe with some occasional spikes in there.
"Aaaah, McFadden, a physically healthy man. Not so much mentally though. He seemed to had some issues, if ya know what I mean… A "little" obsessesed with manliness, among other things."
He was touched in the head. Like some of the folks around here!
One of my favorite facts about McFadden is that he held a beauty contest to choose his wife and then married the winner. You gotta love that level of commitment to your wacko ideas. Things seemed to go well in the marriage for a while, they had a passle of kids, but then they got divorced and she wrote a tell-all book about him.
I dunno, Liz, Overalls in the Appalachians sounds pretty sweet to me. Maybe that will be our summer retreat. Winter we will do the kitavan sorong thing in the jungle.
Michael,
You gotta change your name like Bernarr (Bernard) did. Maybe Milkael Miles.
The mucous is going away, and so are some original aches and pains. I'm hoping to secure a different milk source for the remain 2 weeks or so. That could give us a good comparison between milks.
We can totally have multiple health communes. The one in Appalachia could be called something like "Spoonbread City."
Of course, everyone else will assume that we're eating this in Spoonbread City:
http://180degreehealth.blogspot.com/2009/06/in-bread-pudding.html
Jenny,
What did she write in the tell-all book about him? I have known a few "gurus" in various professions, and they all maintained a public persona that was completely different from the way they really were. Most didn't practice what they preach. The diet gurus are especially famous for lying and cheating on their diets.
You don't look all that healthy anymore, the milk diet doesn't seem to be doing much good – if you judge based on just how you sound and look.
I know McFadden was also one of the inspirations of Rheo H. Blair (an unconventional early body builder and health guru). Rheo changed his name as well.
Matt I'd be interested in where the milk comes from –
small, family run grass fed dairy?
do you know which particular breeds they are using?
I'm about to wrap up my own milk diet, I've been on it for 33 days and all symptoms I got initially have more or less passed. Mouth feels fine, I have no problems with my feet while walking anymore, headaches are gone and I don't feel tired. Thus I reckon I'm done with this healing phase. I never had any noticeable digestive problems during all of this, so my verdict is that low-pasteurized non-homogenized milk is fine, though I can't rule out that, being Scandinavian, I'm just a genetic mutant with respect to lactose tolerance.
So tomorrow I am finally gonna embark on a fat loss program. I'm leaning most towards intermittent fasting again, mostly because it'll be very liberating not to have to think about eating or cooking food all day long, I'd rather spend another hour sleeping in the morning than go up to make breakfast, eat breakfast, and then prepare my lunch for work. But I'm also curious about whether it is less likely to evoke a famine response while losing weight than then modified Evans & Strang type diet Cusick was doing, based on the limited research suggesting it can reduce body fat without significant decreases in leptin. I think it can be, particularly if you make sure to eat to appetite when you do eat, and not deliberately restrict calories at the same time as I was doing before.
Anyone know how Cusick is doing by the way? He hasn't updated his blog in like a month.
Matt,
Check out this quote from the Macfadden website. It looks like the HED was the nutritional ideology in the past, and the Macfadden was one of the guys who changed it to the modern conventional view.
"He taught that a diet made up mostly of fresh fruits, vegetables, and whole grains is vital to good health. This was a revolutionary concept at a time when little was known about nutrition. The common thought at the time was that people should eat a lot of calories. Macfadden contradicted the popular beliefs of the time about diet. Today we know that his teachings about diet were amazingly accurate."
It's Mark McAfee's milk. I'm sure there's lots of info. out there about his milk if you're interested.
Anonymous-
I probably look and sounded much healthier in the pics on the top of the page. Did I mention during that time I was irritable, irrational, had awful body odor, couldn't eat a banana without having a crying fit, had heartburn after every meal and every sip of water, had tooth pain…
7 days on a diet, especially one known to cause extreme fatigue, is probably insufficient information to start making proclamations about it. I'm certainly much better on day 8 today than I was on day 5, which is promising.
Collden-
Good luck. Keep an eye on body temp. Don't compromise it for weight loss. My hunch is that IF is probably not the most sound approach overall, but open-minded about it and am curious to hear your results. Just don't "try" too hard. Let the weight come off naturally if you can. You may find that just a few days of eating lightly will be enough to flip the switch.
JT-
I obviously haven't read all of MacFadden's work, but drinking 7 quarts of milk (4,725 calories per day by his calculations) isn't exactly congruent with eating a low-calorie diet revolving around grains, fruits, and vegetables. Seems like that quote may be misrepresenting his true beliefs, and obviously his beliefs contradicted each other if that was the case.
One day in the not so far flung future I am going to be set up for some serious clinical observation and more N=1 experimentation (and fun!) in a distant beautiful island paradise. Then I can really drill down on some of this stuff w/other people in a very short period of time instead of the many years it has taken me thus far.
We should all throw in some money and buy an island or something!
I can attest to the fact that Bernarr was very much in favor of consuming a veggie and fruit oriented diet with some grains. He was also suggested eating 2 meals a day. He was also not in favor of meat but conceded that it should be eaten once a week after his vegetarian wife gave birth to an underdeveloped child that died shortly after. He would also fast after eating meat as he thought cooked meat carried with it impurities.
Thanks Riles. No wonder he found consuming nothing but milk – 24 meals per day, to be so healing :)
"Jenny,
What did she write in the tell-all book about him? I have known a few "gurus" in various professions, and they all maintained a public persona that was completely different from the way they really were. Most didn't practice what they preach. The diet gurus are especially famous for lying and cheating on their diets."
Actually it was just the opposite. She just described how miserable it was to live with someone whose ideas were so rigid. He really walked the walk.
Jenny,
That is impressive. Very rare to find a diet guru that really walks it, usually it is just the sheeple who follow them that are so strict, then they wonder why they end up with so many deficiencies and other problems.
Riles and Matt,
He was really into all types of fasting, and from what I read preferred water fasting. A lot of those guys during this time period were into fasting and vegetarianism. I wonder if the milk fasting might have been for special diseases of severe malnutrition. Do you guys know when he recommended water fasting instead of milk.
One of the more interesting aspects of Bernarr's work was his theory of air bathing. He recommended air baths (sitting around nekkid) for improved sleep and health and developed a rig for sleeping that would keep your covers off your body, but still keep you warm enough but not too hot. In general he didn't like modern houses that were too warm.
This matches up with quite a bit of Weston Price's observations of people in rural Switzerland. Price observed that the children were remarkably resistant to cold weather, able to swim in glacial melt water without any ill effects. Bernarr of course tried to get his family to live like this and wasn't always successful. His kids were pretty hardy. They'd have to be. He was a bit exploitative with them, making them perform outside barefoot to show how healthy they were etc.
Well, I guess this takes us back to the theory that the milk diet was so good because it was negating any bad eating habits, not so much that it was the milk itself. This seems to be the reason for immediate success on so many "diets". What do we think? Or are there people who eat clean, balanced, etc, and still have success on milk?
Hawaii girl: I think it's a combination of things, the lack of eating bad stuff, the ease of digestibility, the high amount of "clean" calories combined with a focus on rest and reduction of stress.
My temps are still up. I'm on day 3 of 98 degrees. If I am 98 or higher tomorrow it will be the longest I've been over 98 since I've been taking my temp. (Most of my over 98 days are mid cycle.) This is in ten days of replacing 1-2 meals a day with pasteurized milk.
Haha, I don't know what I am more impressed with, Bernarr and his craziness, or the fact that so many people posting know so much about him. I thought I was a geek, geesh.
Keep it coming!
To the island; I'm in!!! Except of course if it gets creepy and we can't "leave" the island. Don't want a phrase like, "so your drinking the milk" to become standard lexicon or anything.
Jenny – awesome!
Michael, you may not need to buy your own island, just move to the Puna district of the Big Island. Land is cheap, people are crazy, food grows easy. It's a perfect spot for a commune… er, health city? Several there already! Mostly the raw, vegan, hippie kind, so you'd bring balance.
@Elizabeth
Sarongs on the beach? That beats overalls in the Appalachians any day. Looks like our commune is moving seaside…
Thailand baby!
@JT
Maybe you could find an Ayurvedic doc where you are at since you are in Cali. They might be able to give you something to counterbalance the mucus and other negative effects of the excess milk.
If he has a continued mucous buildup he either needs to change the source of his milk or drop the milk altogether (or add a milk digestion supplement as one person did with good results). Excess milk is not the issue.
Do you notice what you are craving on this diet? Fatty meat and greens!
Ha! Cravings on any type of fast don't tell you much of anything.
The diet gurus are especially famous for lying and cheating on their diets.
Yeah Chet day wrote a great article about this. Over the years in some of my yahoo groups we have had people who were familiar and/or worked with some of these gurus blow the whistle. There is a very well known raw food guru who apparently eats pizza and burgers on a regular basis.
I wonder if the milk fasting might have been for special diseases of severe malnutrition.
The Milk Diet was used by many others (not just McFadden) to treat "terminal" diseases, not just diseases of "malnutrition."
@Jenny
Winter we will do the kitavan sorong thing in the jungle.
Thailand baby! But I would settle for Tahiti, lol.
Actually it was just the opposite. She just described how miserable it was to live with someone whose ideas were so rigid. He really walked the walk.
What did she expect marrying a man as the result of a contest?
This matches up with quite a bit of Weston Price's observations of people in rural Switzerland. Price observed that the children were remarkably resistant to cold weather, able to swim in glacial melt water without any ill effects.
True of other groups as well. Check out the WAPF's article on "Guts and Grease"
@Matt
You gotta change your name like Bernarr (Bernard) did. Maybe Milkael Miles.
LOL!
@Colld?n
So tomorrow I am finally gonna embark on a fat loss program. I'm leaning most towards intermittent fasting again, mostly because it'll be very liberating not to have to think about eating or cooking food all day long,…
If it was me, I would just eat for a few weeks before instituting anything else. Slowly start eating solid food again and then just relax before embarking on anything else. You will continue the healing process that is still going on even though you feel okay right now.
@madMUHHH
We should all throw in some money and buy an island or something!
Thailand baby!
@Riles
He was also not in favor of meat but conceded that it should be eaten once a week after his vegetarian wife gave birth to an underdeveloped child that died shortly after.
Ugh, the nasty little secret of the mostly vegan movement, children who are harmed by the diet. It needs a post but right now I don't want that kind of traffic – a zillion ideological vegans hellbent on destroying your site.
@Lorelei aka Hawaiigirl
Well, I guess this takes us back to the theory that the milk diet was so good because it was negating any bad eating habits, not so much that it was the milk itself. This seems to be the reason for immediate success on so many "diets". What do we think? Or are there people who eat clean, balanced, etc, and still have success on milk?
The Milk Diet has been used to cure major degenerative disease on the one hand so that sets it apart from just the initial changes one experiences in making a dietary change.
On the other hand, the first time I actually tried it I had been eating "clean" and "balanced" for some time and yet experienced some very good results.
Michael, you may not need to buy your own island, just move to the Puna district of the Big Island. Land is cheap, people are crazy, food grows easy. It's a perfect spot for a commune… er, health city? Several there already! Mostly the raw, vegan, hippie kind, so you'd bring balance.
Yeah, I have a friend who lives there. Sounds great in a lot of ways but for people who come by for some serious healing of major degenerative disease I would prefer to be outside of the US, especially since I want to use Immune Milk Therapy. To paraphrase Dr. Schulze, you can't eat clean and balanced in jail. :-)
Thailand, baby!
Truth, Michael. We've had our milk source fined and threatened with jail already. Regular old real milk is illegal, so you'd be in big doodoo. On the other hand, lots of illegal stuff going on down there… lots… you may just blend in under the radar. Tahiti's pretty cool too, though.
Hawaii has the best pasture. Cows that graze their have such shiny coats that they look polished.
But I've spent a lot of time in Thailand too.
My vote is…
Thailand baby!
I wanna get massaged every day for $4 as well. That was very healing in and of itself.
As for not practicing what I preach, I would NEVER EVER do that!
(pauses, stirs 1t Cocoa powder into glass of milk)
Never!!!
JT-
I took someone to a Mexican restaurant last night to pick up some food (La Super Rica in S.B. – el mejor).
The fresh-made tortillas looked great! That grilled, hot, salty meat. Spicy salsa bursting with complex flavors.
I've identified my metabolic type as "Mexican." Finally, it all makes so much sense. I've never had a very thick moustache. That's because I wasn't eating right for my metabolic type. I'm quitting the milk diet today and getting back to my metabolic roots. Should have a bitchin' Sanchez stache by Junio.
Maybe do a Horchata diet.
Matt,
That was funny. You can fight it all you want man, and using humor is a good way to do it, but eventually you will see the truth. What is really funny is that I remember craving mexican food, especially burritos when I was on the milk. I think it had something to do with the saltiness.
We need to compare the results you get from the milk fast to the results you got from you meat fast.
Thought you might like that amigo.
I will say that my nose did get super plugged right away when I did an all-meat diet as well, and I felt run down and sick twice in 30 days during that escapade.
Mentally/emotionally, the milk diet reigns supreme. Sleep is infinitely better. Sex drive is quadruple. Most importantly, I'm not cracked out feeling like I was on an all-meat diet. I remember how freaky-deaky it was to get on an elliptical machine doing zero carb and see my heart rate go to 180-190 BPM while I wasn't even breathing hard. Normal at that rate of exertion was 130-140 BPM.
Matt,
Are you allowed to have sex on the milk diet? I thought you were supposed to be in total rest.It is one of the substances that is supposed to be good at building "ojas" that will get depleted in a man if he has too much sex. My libido was pretty good on all the milk too, so my girlfriend was pretty happy, especially since I was coming off the low carb thing which killed my libido. Even though I ended up with severe injuries on the milk diet, I did feel much better than I did on an all meat diet, which is the worst i have ever felt, would rather be vegan than do that again.
Yeah, that seems to be a pretty common report. Zero carb is the almighty crusher of sexuality.
Perhaps not chugging it cold, swishing it around in your mouth, being totally rested, and following the other idiosyncrasies of the official "milk diet" would have made a much bigger difference for you, allowing you to get the benefits without the major ear disaster.
"We should all throw in some money and buy an island or something!"
Thailand baby!
You want to buy Thailand?
Thanks Michael. I'm actually having second thoughts about breaking the milk diet just yet. I realized that the standard duration was 6 weeks, and not 4, so I may stick with this another week or so just to be able to say I did the full cure and make sure I'm not missing out on anything.
Like I said, going to intermittent fasting is more for practical reasons than anything else. I'm about to start a full time job and going back to cooking four proper meals a day like I did during the HED would probably be pretty stressful. I've gotten quite used to the minimal time and effort required on the milk diet.
Maybe a reasonable transition would be to drink milk in the morning/noon and have proper meals in the evening for a period?
"I've identified my metabolic type as "Mexican." — Sanchez Stone
LOL!
Michael wrote:
"True of other groups as well. Check out the WAPF's article on "Guts and Grease"
I'm taking a drink of milk everytime I read the phrase, "Thailand Baby."
Well, Sanchez Stone, I'm glad you've identified you metabolic type. I think it behooves you to change your name like Brother Bernarrrrrr (best said in pirate, voice I think.)
98.2 today. That's a personal record for me being four whole days above 98. It's a good sign too that the temps are climbing. I may just try to eat no solid food today. My dinner plans were kind of unexciting to me (I have to have at least one conciliatory pasta night for husband and boy.)
I have felt slightly moody the last few days and I did have a sugar craving last night. I'm not sure if that is milk diet, or normal hormonal flux.
So far the only "side effect" that I'm sure of is that I tweaked my back a little yesterday carrying those damn heavy glass milk bottles!
Thailand, baby! (Drink)
Michael, I meant to say that I will check out the Guts and Grease article.
What are we sun-allergic people supposed to do on this island retreat?? Dibs on the biggest palm tree! Also, dibs on a $4 massage. Wait… it's not one of *those* massages, is it? Because if it isn't, I'd be willing to go up to like $15 to make that happen.
ha, Annabelle! Seriously, though are you really allergic to the sun? That sucks. Are you working on it?
Michael, that was a great article. Anything that quotes from Lame Deer. That dude is one of my faves. Lame Deer Seeker of visions was one of my favorite books in college and inspired all kinds of nonsense and some really good things too. That article really made me want to make some pemican. Anyone have a recipe?
I was diagnosed with something called polymorphic light eruption(PMLE) a few years ago, which I think is 90% bullshit. Basically, I told my dermatologist that I was allergic to all commerical sunscreens, even hypoallergenic ones (which I AM!), but he said that was impossible (um what?) and that the rashes and hives I get are actually from the sun, which is also true – I do get hives from the sun. I also get crippling sunburns within minutes.
His Rx was to stay out of the sun for eternity. Thanks for the advice, a-hole. As much as I liked Anne Rice as a sullen teenager, I'm sort of over that phase.
I don't think my skin was meant to see much sun, but my intolerance goes beyond what could be considered normal. I can even get a bad burn in the winter on a semi-sunny day if I'm outside for an hour. However, if I treat myself regularly with my UVB lamp, then I find the rashes decrease. Probably the increased vitamin D helps my tolerance.
I plan on trying a natural sunscreen this summer and gradually weaning my way down the SPF scale, as I develop a
"base". Fingers crossed. I've even thought about doing so in a tanning salon, so I can really precisely control the amount of UVA/UVB that I get, rather than chancing it with real sun exposure. Who knows. I've heard tanning salons don't use the same ratio of UVA:UVB as real sunlight, so that might be a crappy idea.
@Annabelle:
Have you tried apllying coconut oil to your skin already? Don't have much experience with it myself, but it is supposed to do quite a good job at protecting your skin from sunlight damage.
I haven't, but I'm not sure I could go straight to CO from nothing. I think I'd have to build up to only having CO on my skin, after acheiving a base. Right now, I think I might just risk making myself into a painfully, although highly delicious, crispy-fried Annabelle, if I tried that.
Annabelle-
I would venture to guess that you will be able to condition your skin to the sun if you do so carefully and methodically. 2-3 minutes, then 3-4 minutes, and so on until some melanin creeps in there. Getting daily sun exposure for months on end in the tropics totally changed the hardiness of my skin, and it still maintains great softness because I seldom, if ever, burned myself despite shunning sunscreen.
My hunch is that persistence will help you overcome it.
Thanks, Matt. Did you ever put anything on your skin whilst living in the tropics? Like coconut oil?
I did a few times when I felt I had gotten too much sun. Never as a preventative though. I use clothes and shade for sunscreen. Old school.
Annabelle how long have you been using saturated fat as your primary source of fat?
From my experience this has given my fair skin a significant increased tolerance for the sun.
Say 15-20 min to over an hour of direct sun exposure. This is not with habitual sun exposure either.
Though if you do truly have some allergic reactions to UVA/UVB it may not matter.
My understanding is that coconut oil helps you tan if you can't. That may be why it makes such fantastic roast potatoes.
Sorry to derail the comments y'all. Completely unintentional.
Nathan, I've been sat-fatting-it-up since about 2004. Actually, correction: I've been TOTAL-fatting-it-up since then and just not shying away from sat fat. I've also been higher in poooofas since then, too, up until quite recently when I went uber-low in omega 6 fats. I definitely wasn't primarily eating poofs, by any stretch, but definitely a large increase since my low-fat days. Plus, I was low to zero-carb for most of that, so lots of chicken skin and pork and other tasty-yet-unsaturated things.
I would still say that I was eating primarily saturated fat, though.
Sorry, brain fart. It's been since '01. See, this is what happens when you try to calculate the number of years you were low-carbing, according to which guy you were going out with at the time.
Lolz Annabelle. Now, I figure out everything by how old my son was at the time. Let's see Robert was teething so that must be 2007…
@madMUHHH
You want to buy Thailand?
No, just the Thai lifestyle :-)
@Colld?n
Like I said, going to intermittent fasting is more for practical reasons than anything else. I'm about to start a full time job and going back to cooking four proper meals a day like I did during the HED would probably be pretty stressful. I've gotten quite used to the minimal time and effort required on the milk diet.
Totally understand. That is one thing I liked about my Warrior Diet days, just one huge meal at night, and I do mean huge meal.
I don't talk about it much but I do IF but not for physical reasons. It does make life easier regarding food prep.
Maybe a reasonable transition would be to drink milk in the morning/noon and have proper meals in the evening for a period?
Coming off a traditional fast (and the Milk diet also), you will find various recommendations for breaking it. I actually like giving myself one day of transition for every 4 days of fasting. I learned the hard way that even a caloric laden liquid diet still requires some adjustment time back to solid food.
Your plan sounds like a good one. Pay attention to your body. Any sign of discomfort then slow down on the solid food while keeping the calories up with the milk. You should not experience heart burn or anything like that.
You have a lot more leeway coming off the Milk Diet than you would a traditional fast, where how you break it can be as important as the fast itself, but you should still take your time.
But who knows, you may be able to get back to full-blown solid food quicker.
@Jenny
I'm taking a drink of milk everytime I read the phrase, "Thailand Baby."
Does this mean you will join us? :-)
That article really made me want to make some pemican. Anyone have a recipe?
You are soooooooo busted. Now I know you don't read my blog. ;-)
The Bread of the Wilderness
Thailand, baby!
@Annabelle
My suggestion would be to minimize the PUFA's (sounds like you were eating quite a bit) and up the saturated fat along with the other recommendations. Works almost every time. Lots of people in the real food world talking about how they overcame this problem. Recent post about it at Food Renegade. Of course, Uncle Ray (Peat) wrote about this long ago.
Yeah, I ditched les poofs almost entirely already – about 4 months ago? That's why this summer is THE summer for my plan of attack. I wouldn't have even tried the gradual thingie under any other circumstances.
Thanks, all, for your input! Go team!
It's so appropriate I think that the Bernarr post morphed into sunbathing talk.
Once I fell asleep in the sun, with sun screen on my face, and the half of my face that got burned had horrible acne rashes on it for ALMOST A YEAR, while the other side of my face was normal.
I have another inquiry. I pretty sure I still can't really tolerate milk, maybe I could if I drank enough of it, but how would a raw milk yogourt fast compare to milk fast? Also, someone told me that horse milk is actually the closest to human milk. and the fats-carbs-proteins ratio of human to cow is pretty different if you look it up. i'm not dissing cows, i'm just observing. and what is it people say about goats milk not meeting all the nutritional needs of people? I am getting a goat this year because it is the only way I'm going to be able to afford going on a milk diet. a goat is the only milk animal i know of that can live in your backyard no problem. and, another point of interest, someone told me once that the genghis khan army lived off horse milk from the horses they rode..talk about an efficient system!
Jo-
Like I said, I clabbered my milk at first and it seemed to get me through to about day 7 when I stopped having intestinal pain from all the lactose in unfermented milk. I would think yogurt might be a great way to start. Then you could see, as you went along, how bringing in some milk affects you.
Matt your congestion was a result of your lymph node circulation ramping up to get rid of all the toxins via that route. I was very ill when I did the milk diet after getting out of hospital [raw milk] and that was the first step in the series that has seen my health improve. It was traditional medicine and medications that was killing me. I now can use some meds but rely on dietary changes to get the real improvement in my health.
That's what I kept telling myself Rick, and sure enough – it cleared up. Very quickly too I might add. But I am certainly not one of those people that attributes every negative symptom to "detox" like many other health evangelists.
Bernarr Macfadden wrote two books about how to naturally strengthening the eyes, ?Strong eyes; how weak eyes may be strengthened and spectacles discarded? in 1901 and ?Strengthening the eyes; a system of scientific eye training? (http://www.central-fixation.com/strengthening-the-eyes/) in 1918, which he wrote as a result of getting to know William H. Bates. It's interesting to note that Charles Sanford Porter in his milk diet book said that the vision could get better from the milk diet, he wrote:
?It is wise to have the eyes tested after taking this treatment, because the eyes undergo changes as well as everything else, and glasses that were used previously may cause eye strain afterward on account of being too strong.
So, maybe the milk diet can be a remedy to cure or improve poor eye vision when combined with the Bates method or other vision correction programs (EFT, yoga, the use of herbs, sunlight, pinhole glasses etc.).
Macfadden made it clear that good nutrition was important for having good eyes:
?When the body is normal and healthy, the blood furnished to the eyes is pure and clear. Strong eyes are the result. If, on the other hand, the digestion is out of order and the blood is impure, or loaded with unassimilated material, then the eyes grow dull and heavy; their power of vision is impaired no less than their beauty, and a wholesale degeneration of their tissues results."
Some of the books by Bernarr Macfadden have been put up on the internet:
http://www.archive.org/search.php?query=bernarr%20macfadden
I am on day 13 of the raw milk cure/diet.
Diarrhea is my middle name.
All other functions are great, but I am gaining weight…how can that be while I am trotting 4-5 times a day to visit "Dr. John"?
I look fabulous though. Go between tired one day and totally energized the next. Trying to stick to the bed rest. Are you?
Day 12 for me. Interestingly, I lost 5 pounds in the first 9 days, but have gained back 2.5 in the last 3 days. None of the regain appears to be fat.
Bowels have loosened up quite a bit. Not diarrhea, but…
Not bed rest, but keeping physical activity to one 5-10 minute walk per day without becoming winded or raising my pulse rate much.
45-minutes of sunbathing per day.
@Jenny
your temperatures have been high, you've been moody and you've tweaked your back?
You are pregnant. ;-)
Matt,
If you're type is Mexican you'll be able to consume more PUFA since avos are easy pickins down there.
That would be awful since your health would immediately fail if your type is really NOT Mexican.
Hey, that's a good way to prove your type. I should write a book.
Oh, and that ? about having sex on the milk diet;
Any fast that does not allow sex is just silly. Think about it-all those 'juices' are just sitting there getting old and toxic. They must be expelled.
So my recommendation would be to have very slow, extended sexual activity.
Damn Jem. You woulda loved it. Right after I posted my Mexican metabolic type I did a video as Mateo Sanchez with a finger stache.
http://cdn.buzznet.com/assets/users16/noahrs/default/finger-stache–large-msg-12361569527.jpg
But it was too over the top. Couldn't post it.