By Matt Stone
I voiced a few words about cancer a few weeks back when it was announced that Angelina Jolie was having both of her breasts removed for cancer prevention.?Now it’s time to dig in a little deeper.
I would say the two most prominent cancer treatment diets out there are the Budwig Protocol and Gerson Therapy. While I have great disdain for extreme diets, wacky diet gurus, false promises, and the mystical hype?circus sideshow that is the alternative health movement…at the end of the day I would much rather go on an extreme diet than get a body part removed or get’the standard nuke and puke (radiation and?chemotherapy)?and all of those brutal and ineffective approaches. Assuming that it could actually work.
Could?one or both of these protocols really work?? If so, what would be the mechanism(s)?
I don’t have time to fully’summarize and explain’the two protocols. Get on that Google thing if you are that interested in them. But from my research on the topic it’s certainly plausible that these methods could indeed have some anti-cancer effects. One thing that both have in common is a radical overhaul of dietary fats, and dietary fat has long been indicated as having a role in the development of cancer.
Gerson Therapy is all about limiting total fat intake. For all practical purposes, Gerson Therapy is a liquid diet revolving primarily around fresh fruit juice with no added fat.The original protocol included calf liver juice as well, but that’s too uncool today. Campylobacter n’ all. And yes, it has been shown, at least in furry creatures, that really limiting fat intake, the intake of the “essential fatty acid” linoleic acid (also known as omega 6) in particular, has a very powerful anti-cancer property. Taking all the rodent research in, it would appear that a low-fat diet that only contains very saturated sources of fat such as coconut oil, beef tallow, dairy fat, etc. in small amounts,?would be king.
Some research also suggests that omega 3 is protective, perhaps because omega 3 has opposite properties to omega 6 in many respects, and megadosing on it as prescribed in the Budwig Protocol (up to 8 tablespoons of flax oil per day blended with cottage cheese?if you gotz the cancer) displaces a lot of that supposedly?cancer-promoting omega 6.
There’s also some evidence that starving yourself will send tumors into regression – although I suspect this is very temporary and in the end counterproductive?like all the other benefits ascribed to self-starvation (weight loss, lowered blood pressure, reduced blood sugar, etc.). And any?highly-regimented diet often results in?incidental calorie restriction.
I don’t have enough real-life experience with either strategy to declare a winner, or declare two losers or two winners from this short menu. But it is interesting to see that both 
protocols seem to operate primarily by big changes in fat intake that work to displace the one fat that has managed to work its way into the global food supply in unprecedented amounts during the rise of cancer over the last century or so. Our buddy LA.
No major groundbreaking advice here, but if I was just some regular Joe and found out I had cancer, I would probably have lots of fruit and juice with’some salty cheese, beef, and other low-PUFA delights?(blended with flax oil?? Eesh. I dunno about that – like the bad guy in Karate Kid II, I might just choose to “Die”) and spend lots of time outside in the sun trying to enjoy myself.
Okay fine, that’s not really true. I would probably travel the world like Anthony Bourdain and do and eat lots of morally-questionable things. While blasting Peter Cetera classics like the one above in public places. And doing?nothing that resembles either one of these diets because I?am highly skeptical of them both.
Know anyone who has tried these protocols or other alternative therapies with great success or failure? Do share.
A few interesting studies on the topic…
Requirement of essential fatty acid for mammary tumorigenesis in the rat.
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Lol nice save.
My mom has inoperable brain cancer. She had surgery about 15 years ago but 10 years ago, it started growing again in a different place. She has been working with a nutritionist who specializes in brain tumors and has been on a strict diet (no sugar, few grains, and tons of supplements). Since starting the diet, the tumor has stopped growing. I think when facing a life or death situation like that, it might not be as hard to be strict about your diet. I know that she is just happy to be alive.
There’s some impressive evidence that ketogenic diets have a potent effect on advanced cancer (particularly brain tumors) and there’s no doubt they are effective for epilepsy. I’m not advocating them for your average person, btw, but it is a legitimate dietary intervention to be considered in extreme situations. The problem with a lot of the trials have people eating corn oil and peanut butter and diet soda. I wonder how much different the results would be with quality ingredients?
Would you mind listing the diet and supplements she’s taking?
Would so appreciate that!
Chemo works. Not everytime, but it does.
And will rather nuke my self then go juice.
I think pretty much everything works. Sometimes.
I think you are right Stone.
My sense it comes done to whether someone believe it will work or not. Sometimes they really do and sometimes they really don’t.
That’s not true. Some people reallly believe that X substance will heal them, or praying, or “staying away from negative thoughts” and BAM they die. IMO
Of course the back up to the “prayer heals” method when the person dies is that it’s “God’s will”. That just doesn’t work for me.
It certainly takes more than belief though. I will say that the health interventions I was most sure were going to give me exceptional health – believed them to the core in an almost fanatical sense, were the ones that did the most damage. There’s a fine line between having an attitude conducive to healing and naively having blind faith in something and being unable to actually face the fact that negative signs are popping up everywhere.
May be more helpful to stay away from stressful people and situations. At least if it has no effect, it will be a lot more pleasant.
Here’s another which also refers to types of fat:
http://files.meetup.com/1463924/Jerry%20Brunetti%20z-1%5B1%5D.pdf
The man also says that sugar is the main culprit.
And i say that cancer comes from many places for vast number of reasons.
No cancer in my family as far i as i know. Then my little sister go boom, thyroid cancer in the tender age of 17. The healthiest kid, simple life, good genetics. How, why?
She survived, even after the spreading of the metastases, went to clinic in israel,
got a hard chimio, no thyroid, 2 kids as the day of today. That was 18 years ago.
My aunt went to live in Nigeria, stayed there for 20 years, breast cancer, didnt wake from the last operation. I belive that stress was there for my aunt, her life was tough and emotionaly demanding, but my little sis? We were in shock, and on i way i still dont get it exept for a recent talk with a doctor in which i had again the Chernobyl
explosion brought into the equation. We grew in Bulgaria, was it that she was out
when some infinite small particles went trough? Dunno.
But refusing a mainstream medicine in cases like that is a bit daft, the least i will say.
If it ever comes to me i guess will take any sound sounding stuff into consideration.
Including chimiotherapy and rest.
Thyroid cancer at 17 pretty much is guaranteed to be from Chernobyl fall out. The U.S. is going to see a lot of those types of things in the next few years as we absorb the fallout from fukushima.
Elina, Glad your sister made it, but sorry your aunt didn’t. My little sister had thyroid cancer too, age 20, about 10 years ago — but we grew up in the rural Midwest, USA. When I share this with doctors, especially ob-gyn types, they say, “Oh, yeah, that’s common in young women.” (Wha?!) She’s OK now, had the gland removed, took radioactive iodine and is now quite healthy with replacement hormone. No big risk factors, no family history of cancer at all, etc. Chernobyl is another ballgame (much worse), but it seems these toxins are insidious nearly everywhere.
Ray Peat is the man in this area. He’s been telling people to get the PUFA’s out for a long long long time.
And to eat less iron. Dietary-wise Ray Peat suggests people eat no pufa, very little iron(which is why he chugs coffee), He believes both are a cause of many modern diseases.
I question these anti-cancer protocols that are so high in potassium. Considering a diagnosis of cancer could quite possibly be one of the most stressful events that you could encounter, the adrenals would go into overdrive becoming quickly exhausted. Subsequently, aldosterone production would be sub-par and thus the bodies ability to balance your sodium/potassium ratio’s would be severely compromised. By my assumption this would only further weaken the bodies metabolism, and cellular energy production to be able to fight the cancer!
Where can I learn more, Val? Potassium seems to disagree with me.
Vicki, research aldosterone. It is a an adrenal hormone that is responsible for regulating potassium, and sodium. They are like a teeter-todder. When the adrenals are under stress. The body starts to dump relatively large amounts of sodium. The cells become potassium heavy. The ratio becomes imbalanced, and eating potassium rich foods, as well as fluids only make the situation worse. The cells no longer have the proper ratio, and so they no longer function properly. This is why people crave salty, carb-laden foods when under stress. If you ignore these cravings and continue to eat “health” foods like…fruit, veggies, fish, etc. the cells will never get a chance to get into homeostasis. Look into Matt’s book…..Eat for Heat. You can also find a lot of this information online.
It’s actually not that simple. When Aldosterone goes upp the body sacrifices magnesium and potassium to retain sodium(and at the same time calcium, which DOES load up into stressed cells until the cell dies or multiplies).
The easiest way to lower aldosterone and retain potassium and magnesium is to eat sodium, which is why salt is so appealing under stress. It helps to retain magnesium which in turn helps the body retain potassium.
Magnesium suppresses aldosterone, so I would assume if one has trouble retaining water (common w/adrenal problems), then aldosterone is already too low, and one should avoid magnesium supplementation.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8228558
I thought people craved sugar and sweet foods when under stress, leading to the nonsensical headlines that ‘stress makes you fat’.
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You have read too much of Dr.Wilson. If you lower salt intake , your aldosterone goes up. It is a fact. If you lower salt intake , your aldosterone will go up 6 fold within 6 days. You cant test is yourself. Aldosterone will cause potassium loss and chloride loss.
Go and check your blood, Aldosterone always goes up with lower salt intake. Quite the opposite of what you would have thought
I attended a long talk by Dr. Nicolas Gonzales at a WAPF Conference that I thought was absolutely fascinating. In short (very short), he uses Metabolic Typing with WAPF foods, plus pancreatic enzymes and cleansing (yes, coffee enemas).
According to him, “patients with solid epithelial tumors, such as tumors of the lung, pancreas, colon, prostate, uterus, etc. do best on a largely plant-based diet,” while “patients with the blood or immune based malignancies such as leukemia, myeloma and lymphoma do best on a high-animal protein, high-fat diet.”
He told the fascinating discovery of how cancer cells behave exactly like stem cells. The point at which stem cells form into specific cells of the body is when the pancreas develops and releases pancreatic enzymes. So the idea is that pancreatic enzymes stop cancer cells from their uncontrolled growth, or something like that. Very fascinating talk.
If I got cancer, his would be the first I’d try.
http://www.dr-gonzalez.com/clinical_pearls.htm
I would’t trust too much in flax oil. First the Omega-3 fatty acids are in the form of ALA which doesn’t seem as valuable as the animal form. Second it possesses hormonal-active properties and increases the prostate cancer risk in men and possibly for other hormonal related cancers. This should be considered.
E H my husband was diagnosed with stage 4 prostrate cancer in 2006. After following a strict Budwig protocol he is in remission after 5 years untill now 2017.
Wow! That is fantastic! I’d like to here more about your journey so I can help my mom.
I am interested in the Budwig protocol and how you used it for your husband. Thank you, Bryan
Great, so all this high fat food (butter, coconut oil, avocados, fatty meat, cheese, milk) that I am craving and eating in an attempt to put weight on is now harming me! I give up! I’m going back to veganism…
No, big difference between saturated fats and omega 3’s vs. refined omega 6’s (PUFA’s).
Those are all “good” fats. Relax and have a cookie. :-)
I have breast cancer and truly believe I’d be dead without all those healthy, saturated fats.
When I tried juicing I got so fatigued I thought the cancer was getting me. One rare, grass fed burger later I knew I needed fats and protein.
When I tried Gerson I watched my tumor grow.
German New Medicine (www.learninggnm.com) and a WAPF based diet have kept me off the medical merry-go-round and gotten me into healing.
Please see http://www.yikesihavecancer.me
Close relative on the Gerson Diet – colon cancer. First tumor was removed, no chemo. Started diet immedietely after surgery. Has second tumor, appeared soon after first one (wasn’t on diet very long at that point), so far new tumor not growing.
Been on diet for almost a year. Went to Gerson clinic in Mexico for two weeks. Following the diet for the most part – but admits to occasionally licking salt off potato chips.
Extremely tired, anxious, seems depressed. Feels “tied” to the diet/enemas, has to plan way ahead to leave the house. I think salt is needed, not sure how much to counter all the liquid. Only carbs (that I’ve seen) are a small baked potato once a day.
I have a friend on the Gerson Diet – she two spent two weeks in Mexico after she was first diagnosed with breast cancer in Sept of 2011. She elected to not have any surgery. Her cancer has spread to the other breast and is now creating open wounds in the original breast (ongoing for nearly a year). She sticks to the Gerson plan religiously. I would say that is is not working very well. She has all the signs of a slow metabolism an also is having thyroid issues. She has become a slave to her healing process which isn’t working. I would love to tell her to eat some potatoes and ice cream. At least enjoy life!
Gerson uses many juices per day, including carrot and orange, which are high in carbs. Also, oatmeal is allowed in the mornings. And the Gerson soup is filled with potatoes. Plenty carbs on Gerson.
No salt allowed on gerson???
from Gerson.org: “The metabolism is also stimulated through the addition of thyroid, potassium and other supplements, and by avoiding heavy animal fats, excess protein, sodium and other toxins.”
also from Gerson.org: “The Gerson diet is entirely organic and vegetarian. The diet is naturally high in vitamins, minerals, enzymes, micro-nutrients, and extremely low in sodium, fats, and proteins. The following is a typical daily diet for a Gerson patient on the full therapy regimen:
Thirteen glasses of fresh, raw carrot/apple and green-leaf juices prepared hourly from fresh, organic fruits and vegetables.
Three full vegetarian meals, freshly prepared from organically grown fruits, vegetables and whole grains. A typical meal will include salad, cooked vegetables, baked potatoes, Hippocrates soup and juice.
Fresh fruit and fresh fruit available at all hours for snacking, in addition to the regular diet.”
It’s too bad they’re not qualifying the difference between low-quality ‘table salt’ and high-quality natural salt. All that potassium and zero sodium can be problematic…
I just listened to a gerson practitioner say that ” there is no such thing as healthy salt”. That alone would stop me from trying the protocol. Salt is essential to life!
Dr Robert Brownstein uses some sort of iodine protocol for some cancers (mostly breast, I believe)
The breast tissue consume more iodine than the thyroid. A lot of people do not realize this.
This is actually relatively new information in the broad media based sense….. http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2013/03/10/ketogenic-diet.aspx
New scientific information reveals the benefits of a ketogenic diet in starving cancer cells and stopping it’s spreading to other areas of the body. From personal experience I think in large part a ketogenic diet is quite unhealthy, BUT in a few instances I do believe it to have therapeutic advantages. Of all the “protocols”, this made the most sense to me. Unfortunately we know all too well here dietary manipulation of stress based ailments, and diseases only buys you so much time .
I bought a juicer from an old lady at a retirement home in Virginia who claimed to have treated her cancer with carrot juice. It was a nice Omega juicer for $10, and she sold it because it was getting too heavy for her. She said to look her up in the phone book if it didn’t work, and she’d refund my money.
Thanks sweet old lady, but no way. I’ll take a gamble for $10. Turned out, it worked great.
Anyway, I wonder if she was on that Gerson Protocol..
Also, isn’t ‘nuking’ (radiation) different from chemo (drugs)?
Yeah I guess the word “nuke” wasn’t appropriate there. I’ll fix it so nobody else thinks I’m a dumbass.
A recent mercola newsletter had a whole article about how a ketogenic diet starves cancer cells. Anybody tried that one yet?
Yes, too bad humans are not just cells in dishes. Ketogenic diets look good in limited studies and on paper, but usually are metabolically disastrous for most people. The problem is not glucose, but dysfunctional mitochondria
I knew someone in the 70’s who had testicular cancer. He was 24 hours away from dying and started the Gerson protocol. Swore it saved his life. I don’t know if it lasted because we lost touch.
I worked at a indie health food store in Northern Cali for 5 years. I came across thousands of interesting people with stories galore. The ONE thing that was consistent with people who had fought their cancer and WON was this……http://www.floressencetea.com/#tab=Home . Also known as Essiac tea. I tried a round myself one time for shits and giggles. It was the most intense “detox” I had ever experienced. It felt like I was on pills or E again. I didn’t even finish the bottle.
Goddammmmmm, if it makes you feel like you are on E, I am going to get me some of that!
Me: “I am rolling on E”
Dude: “Where’d you score that ADAM?”
Me: “It’s not Adam, dude. It’s “E” for Essiac”
Floressence is good shit. A few more herbs in it (like kelp) than traditional essiac, but I think I like it better. I do it a couple times a year when I feel sluggish or I’m showing signs that my lymphatic system needs a jump start. Never felt like I was rolling face though, maybe I should double my dose…:)
I thought the recipe for Essiac was destroyed when the woman (Ms. Caisse) died. At least according to the documentary “Cancer: the Forbidden Cures” (you can watch it here: http://vimeo.com/25279346) There have been many cures to cancer and even my homeopath Joette Calabrese went to India this past January and sat with doctors Banjeri as they treated hundreds of patients, many of who had cancerous tumors and they actually were successful in making them shrink and were healed. I don’t doubt there are a lot of cures… but the Cancer Industry doesn’t want them to be known!
Nope — it wasn’t destroyed. Her assistant signed an affidavit with the exact recipe and ingredients used:
http://www.healthfreedom.info/Cancer%20Essiac.htm
There’s a copy near the bottom of the page…
I did the floressence tea… didn’t do anything detox to me… been thinking about trying the essiac tea again because its supposed to detox the chemtrails out of your body… haha!!!
No experience but anyone interested in alternative treatments to cancer must read “Forbidden Medicine,” by Ellen Brown.
There are cures for cancer and research behind those cures – unfortunately they were suppressed by the AMA and FDA and still are today.
I have experience with both these protocols. And I can tell you that after nearly a year on Gerson, the cancer growth accelerated. So, I switched to Budwig. The cancer growth slowed, and I was on that for a little over a year; but it did not stop the cancer. I have tried so many diets, natural therapies, etc, it would be a novella to tell them all. Suffice it to say, I am nearly eight years into this cancer (vulvar and cervical carcinoma) and have had no traditional intervention whatsoever. None. Not surgery. Not chemo. Not radiation. Nil. While I believe certain natural protocols are helping to keep the cancer growth slow, nothing has stopped the cancer completely. And my quality of life has not improved at all. In fact, it’s declined, albeit slowly. I did LDN for over a year. I have also tried RBTI, Revici, and Alkaline diet. It makes me sick when people who have never battled cancer spout all the crud they’ve heard about being Alkaline, as the cancer I have accelerated with the Alkaline diet, as well. I have done many, many supplements, including vitamins and minerals. The cancer I have is virally driven. And so now I am trying out a ketogenic diet, which I hope will help, Otherwise, I feel disillusioned now by natural and alternative “promises.” Oh, and I’m broke now after spending all that money on everything.
G.T. I wish you the best. I am so sorry that you have had to walk through the valley of shit, known as Alternative Medicine, while going through this. MOST practitioners of Alternative Medicine are among the greediest people that I know. They are always certain of their methodologies and will drain you of your last penny. I have nothing but contempt for most of them.
Thank you Thomas. Unfortunately, I don’t think any more highly of traditional medicine when it comes to cancer and would never submit to their cut and burn methods. So, here I am.
Hey GT. I think that the fact that your cancer is virally driven, is a differential that is significant here. I have two friends – both acupuncturists – who have had HPV related cervical cancer, and have either gone into full remission or kept things in check via aggressive Chinese herbal therapy, with specific herbs that are antiviral and also immune system supportive. I myself believe that my chronic prostate issues are virally related, and am concerned about either already having or eventually getting prostate cancer. There is an epidemic of HPV related reproductive cancers brewing at this time but not getting too much press, though Michael Douglas recently revealed that his throat cancer is hpv related.
My point is that many of these cancer diets are more designed treat cancer from poor quality diets and lifestyles rather than from chronic viral infections. How does diet and a chronic virus driven cancer intersect? A good question for which I have seen little research.
Sean, I completely agree with you! I have thought many times that I’m playing a different ball game with the virally-driven cancer. I have never been a smoker. I have never been more than an occasional, social drinker. I have had a fairly clean and healthy lifestyle since I was 19 years old, having studies herbs and nutritional healing and holistic protocols since the same age. (I’m in my early 40’s now). So, I have never believed nutrition was my problem. I mean, I wasn’t perfect, but I guarantee you I was eating far healthier than the average person. And I was very active, as well. But you’re right, cancer diets are of the belief all cancers are due to a nutritional deficiency.
Now, acupuncture and TCM is something I have wanted to do after finding out more about it recently. Unfortunately, I cannot find a true acupuncturist nor TCM practioner within 90 miles of where I live (I live in a very small, remote area). Also, sadly, at this point, I’m genuinely out of money now. My life savings is gone. So, even if I was able to find one farther away, I simply no longer can afford to go.
As an aside, as for celebs with cancer, Farrah Fawcett died of anal cancer, which was HPV-driven. She also explored some alternatives, though I am not sure which ones nor at what point in her journey she did so.
GT, I’m so sorry to hear about what you’re going through. You might be able to figure out some good Chinese herbs with simply some research. Granted, a good TCM practitioner would be ideal, but if there is no money, you might be able to get a decent herbal routine with some research. Someone I know who had advanced cancer extended his life with just one basic herb (I don’t know which one), and I think he just got it on advice from some random person. The good thing about Chinese herbs is they are pretty cheap.
There’s always Resihi, too, although I’m wondering if that’s something you’ve tried already since it’s more mainstream. But if not, that could be worth a shot and supposedly has both anti-viral and anti-cancer properties.
GT, the other you might be interested in is Coley’s toxins. Have you heard of that? Basically, this doctor back 100 years ago figured out that when he gave patients the measles, their cancer disappeared. He realized it was because the high fever (104+) boosted the immune system to the point that it cleared out the cancer. (This makes me think it probably worked on viruses, since fevers are designed to clear viruses and bacteria.) Anyway, he developed Coley’s toxins, which apparently achieves a similar result without the risks of measles. It’s not used in the US much anymore but I think it is still used rarely. The following write-up from the American Cancer Society says it’s still used at the Waisbren Clinic in Milwaukee, and that makes me think it might possibly be something health insurance would cover.
http://www.cancer.org/treatment/treatmentsandsideeffects/complementaryandalternativemedicine/pharmacologicalandbiologicaltreatment/coley-toxins
Thank you Amy. I have not tried Coley’s toxin, but I have done overheating therapy. Not to mention, I have three times had a 104 degree fever over 2-3 days. Each time was due to influenza, since my immune system is pretty much shot. I had hoped each of those times that since I actually survived (I truly felt I was going to die each of those times) that the fever would have helped, because I have read of that happening. I always felt the real fever would be better than the artificially induced ones–and by that, I mean the steam baths, because I don’t know enough about Coley’s toxin to know what that entaisl. I will look into Coley’s toxin and educate myself about it.
I will also look into Chinese herbs. It certainly interests me. Though, I really do wish I could get acupuncture in addition. Alas, we do what we can.
Thank you for all the info and your kind wishes. I am appreciative. :-)
Please do keep us posted here. Keeping you in my prayers as well.
There is an O.M.D. in Seattle who will send herbs in the mail after a phone consultation. He is the best I’ve ever encountered. He is exceptionally knowledgeable and skilled; his therapies save lives.
If it’s for sure a vitally driven cancer try incorporating lots of Brazil nuts for selenium coconut oil and some raw garlic
G.T. I am very sorry to read of how much you’ve struggled. There is absolutely no shortage of arrogant dumbasses who spout all sorts of so-called ‘wisdom’ and yet they have NO clue what they’re talking about.
Chris Kresser just posted part I of his debunking of the PH diet. I’m glad that’s finally coming out. I always thought it sounded like total BS and it was another outlet for hippy vegans to feel superior. The alternative world is very much steeped in snake oil, though not always.
It may not mean much G.T. but you are very much in my thoughts and prayers. I watched my mother die of an unknown cancer in ’09…terrible…truly awful. I wish you only the best of luck, and if juicing and alkaline eating didn’t help, perhaps keto is worthwhile.
Pat, thoughts and prayers do mean a lot to me. I am very appreciative. ((Thank you)). And my heart goes out to you regarding your mother. Not only did I lose my father to renal cell carcinoma, but I am myself a mother to a wonderful 8 year old son. I was diagnosed since right after he was born. (I have a theory about pregnancy causing the immune system to go a certain way, which might have triggered this cancer. But it’s just my own theory based on the TH1 and TH2 immune systems. Which is actually quite an interesting thing to anyone who likes to research this stuff. For instance, everyone says “Green Tea, Green Tea”, but Green Tea is bad for someone whose TH1/TH2 immune systems are out of balance, with the TH2 being dominant.)
Anyway, I digress; it breaks my heart to think of leaving my son. He of course knows Mommy has cancer, but I don’t think he fully understands the magnitude of the whole situation. I mean, we’ve told him I could die from this. But he’s 8. He’s not had any relatives die yet–not even a pet. He is my inspiration to to fight. I really have fought hard…like I’ve never fought for anything else in my life. I still am fighting, though, I admit, I’m coming to the end of what fight I have left in me and find my strength (emotionally, physically, spiritually) dwindling.
I hate cancer. Like I mentioned, I lost my father to cancer when I was 25. Even as an adult, it’s difficult….seeing what my father went through. It’s why I chose alternatives to traditional medicine. And I will say, I don’t regret that. Even though it’s not worked as I’d hope–not been the “miracle cure”. I have definitely lived longer and had a better quality of life than my dad did. Maybe it’s not a perfect quality of life. Especially lately, the pain gets bad sometimes. But it was only a year from the time my dad was diagnosed to his death. And his quality of life was nil. He was sick and bedridden from the chemo. He didn’t even know who we were from the pain medications. Heartbreaking. At least I am still mostly mobile, and I do not yet have Cachexia.
So, onto the ketogenic diet. Even if it is only a temporary fix, the more time I have with my son, I will be glad. I’s a least worth a try. I have read some evidence, at least, that the ketogenic diet is supposed to help with viruses. So, maybe there’s something to it. A girl can hope, anyway. You can read about that here, if you’re interested: http://www.sott.net/article/257631-On-viral-junk-DNA-a-DNA-enhancing-Ketogenic-diet-and-cometary-kicks
Oh, by the way, I also wanted to mention I tried another supposed miracle cure: Rick Simpson Oil. All I can say about that is, there is definitely some scientific evidence it can help with some things, including some cancers. But read about the effects of cannabinoids on most viruses–the outcome was worse. So, I might still recommend some cancer patients try RSO, especially for pain, but not if you have a virally driven cancer, Hep B, or even AIDS. Here’s an excerpt and link to that government study that RSO proponets won’t tell you about when they’re spouting all their “miracle cure” hype:
“In a persistent infection of the central nervous system caused by a non-lytic virus, BDV, cannabinoid treatment was beneficial. In all other virus infections, both in vitro and in vivo, cannabinoid treatment led to disease progression, increased pathology, and sometimes to host death. Therefore, in many clinical settings, including latent infections caused by HIV-1 or HSV-1, and persistent infection of the liver caused by HCV, cannabinoids lead to worsened disease outcome.” http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2903762/
G.T.
I have tried Rife. It has helped me get over several infections.(viral)
There are testimonials for cancer. Should I be dx with cancer,
I will incorporate Rife along with natural therapies. I agree that looking for a natural way to deal with cancer is optimal.
However, depending on what type, I might do surgery. But, no
to chemo and, radiation.
I hope you remain strong and, find your miracle.
Betty, thank you. :)
Having messed with rife for a few years and done a lot of reading and lurking related to it, and built 4 rife machines, I would definitely give rife a shot if I had cancer. I wouldn’t count on it working by a long shot, but I would try it for sure. Rife believed that cancer was caused by a virus as detailed in this video… http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sBx2JYMCuck (the Narrator is John Crane, who tried to resurrect Rife’s stuff, but didn’t seem up to the task. He was trying to market some kind of frequency technology. The video is still interesting though and shows the microscopes). Most of what you read and hear on Rife is unproven mythology. When I was really interested in it, James Bare and his Bare/Rife device seemed to have the most integrity, and I put together one of his devices and used it for a while. Unfortunately we are basically shooting in the dark without specific research on what frequencies to use, so you have to shotgun blast like a billion frequencies and harmonics and hope you get the right one. The one person I knew personally using the Rife/Bare for cancer (don’t recall what kind) didn’t seem to be getting any results. I’m not in touch with him anymore, so I don’t know the outcome. It’s been a while since I have been haunting that scene, so I don’t know what kind of progress, new information or testimonials are out there. James Bare has a bunch of videos of blowing up small organisms in the lab, which is fascinating for sure but of limited practical use. Doing research on actual disease causing organisms requires special licensing or whatever and everyone credible thinks Rife is some kind crystal/light/frequency hippie shit, which it’s not… more like a death ray. Then there is the fact that you can’t view a live virus anyway, although Rife claimed to be able to with his amazing light tweaking microscopes. As far as I know, we don’t have a modern equivalent to those microscopes and I’m inclined think that they, along with patience and meticulous pursuit of good science and lab practice, were probably the real key to his successes, and not the circuitry of the actual frequency devices he used. Whatever the case, Rife himself seems legit. Finally, blowing something up on a microscope slide may be very different than killing something buried deep in tissue. If Rife machines can be made to work practically as intended by Rife, we would basically have the ideal antibiotic and a great tool in combating infectious disease. Unfortunately, we are a long way off from that point, so it’s probably more of a throw it and hope it sticks proposition.
I know it’s a whole other thing to research and learn about but, I can only say I would give it a try personally for what that is worth. It’s not like it takes a lot of time and energy, or means you can’t do other things concurrently. If you were really interested GT, I may be willing to lend you my Rife/Bare device if you can pay shipping costs. It’s just taking up space that I don’t have right now.
Another possibility I would check out is bee venom. It definitely kicks up a stress response and increases cortisol though… not sure what that would mean for cancer. But that’s just biochemistry crap anyway, and doesn’t necessarily equate to the complex things that go on in our bodies. There is some recent research pointing to potential use of bee venom against HIV and cancer. Typically, we have little data and lots of premature news reports. I did BVT for a while using live bees. It’s not as bad as it sounds with lots of ice. Other venoms (cobra and ?) have been explored in treating cancer as well, but I don’t think anyone will be doing that at home. BVT is almost free if you can catch honeybees at home.
If you look into either one of these, you’ll find the same thing you find everywhere else with diets, hydrogen peroxide, baking soda, apple cider vinegar, fasting etc…… which is an almost religious belief in the power to potentially cure everything, as if disease was caused by a lack of bee venom or rife machines. But we’re left to wade through all that shit to find whatever useful gem of information might be floating around in there. I’m sure you’ve done more wading than you can take sometimes. I have quit pursuing solutions to my health problems for basically years at a time because I was so discouraged and just run out of fight, figuring life was more worth living sick than spending my time endlessly pursuing something that might not even be there. Anyway, just trying to cheer you up ;) if you do a little googling on rife/bare or bee venom and want to try the rife machine or know how actually doing BVT works, contact me through my blog. hugs.
Thanks Stevene. I almost bought a bee hive several years back, because of reading about this. I found out it’s against the rules in my neighborhood. And so many people spray, it’s rare (sadly) to see a bee anywhere around. I have done topical bee venom, though, spread directly onto the lesions that are exposed. No change after using the entire container. Now, how legitimate was the product I purchased? Don’t know. They claim to be legit. Alas, like you said, we wade through it. For me, the topical product was just another loss of money.
I’ve tried so many things….definitely it’s disheartening.
I’ve read all about Rife. I simply do not have the means nor technical skill to build a Rife machine. I certainly don’t have the financial ability anymore to purchase one. Plus, I’m leery of Rife simply because I do know of one person who used Rife for Lyme’s and after more than a year (and a lot of money down the drain) had no noticeable results. Since this person lives far away from me, I don’t know if the Rife they used was proper or not. All I know is Rife isn’t an option for me. If there was someone near me with a true Rife machine who didn’t charge nearly $500 per session, I might give it a try. But even if I did, I agree with you, I wouldn’t rely upon it solely.
Thank you for all the info, though. I do appreciate it. Maybe I just can’t get excited about anything anymore. My hopes have been dashed too many times. And money. I do not kid when I say I’m out of money. We went from being, not rich, but not struggling either, to living paycheck to paycheck. And that is on only one income, since I can no longer work, my husband pulls the full weight financially now. I just cannot afford to go off on anymore expensive rabbit trails.
If you have topical lesion, i’ve read great reports of reducing those with hydrated clay (as well as drinking it).
Also, i was under the impression that moderate doses of proteolytic enzymes are crucial. It would help the immune system. There are lots of enzyme therapy books. Have you looked into that?
Yes, msanjap. I tried both of those, both topically and orally, for an extended period. Didn’t work.at.all. Not one single bit. That was years ago. (I’ve been at this nearly 8 years now) If those protocols didn’t help then, they surely won’t help now, this far into the game. I no longer have a simple single topical lesion. There are multiple larger tumors now, and it has spread internally since then, too.
So sorry, but keep searching please!
Have you heard of high doses of vitamin c?
Linus pauling wrote a book about vitamin c and cancer.
Dont give up. I am also praying for you.
Thank you Troy! That is so kind and very much appreciated!
G.T.
Regarding Rife, google ProWave 101 model.
Stevene states that the frequencies used could be hit
or, miss.
I use the ProWave 101 model. It comes with programmed
frequencies for each condition you want to address. Also,
with a 90 day 100% refund for any reason. S&H are
non-refundable.
They are expensive. You can purchase them at a big
discount if you are willing to accept an “imperfect” one. That
is what I did. The “imperfect” models aren’t imperfect in
performance, simply cosmetic. Yet, the tiny cosmetic flaw
in mine isn’t anything I would have considered “imperfect.”
I am very happy with my purchase. I first tried one out at
a Naturopathic Dentist office. I noticed results. Placebo?
I don’t have any scientific test to show results. Yet, I felt
that it was enough results, to buy a machine myself.
I could have returned it for a full refund. I didn’t.
The Dentist was dx with prostate cancer. He opted for
surgery and, Rife. Thus far he hasn’t had a return of the
cancer. I don’t have any time frame to give you on his
condition as, I didn’t pry into his life.
“Surgery and…”. The surgery alone could account for his good fortune. That is actually not that uncommon. That’s why Dr. Weil suggests the surgery.
This is probably too far gone now and in 8 years I would imagine you’ve tried but colloidal silver is an extremely potent anti-nasty formula which I would suggest is worth a shot.
This is anectodal evidence but I’ve read of people curing herpes (which is supposed to be incurable and is definitely a viral infection) with the stuff.
All the best.
Wow, your story sounds a lot like mine. 53 year old brother was diagnosed with multiple myeloma and he was at the last stage. His bones were 80% full of cancer cells. He lived to 7 months past his diagnosis. They told him he had 2 months to live if he didn’t do chemo. Interestingly, after 2 months he fell again and broke several more bones, and landed in the rehab. He almost died due to their neglect. We took him home on hospice, and the first thing I noticed he was horribly constipated due to the Oxycontin he was on. Magnesium and vitamin C blockage undone and he came back to life. We added the budwig protocol and he got better day after day. We also saw substantial changes when we got him on intravenous vitamin C. Specifically the Myers protocol, which includes Vitamin B and magnesium. He wanted coffee and fruit smoothies and I was afraid to give him any sugar, including honey, so. I really regret that now. Ray peat came into my consciousness several months after he died. I really think the pufa thing is overdrawn, and I think like most things in the health field, it’s quality, and preparation. And yes, I think a working metabolism gets rid of a lot of problems. Calories are more important than vitamins and minerals. When my mom who has been developing Alzheimer’s was in the hospital few months ago she was as Lucid as she could be. I think it was because she was getting regular meals three times a day and was eating more and more sugars than usual.
Hi G.T. I’m very sorry to hear about all that you’ve had to put up with. I know it’s been a while since this post, but I just wanted to ask how are you? and also if you are familiar with Ray Peat? I’m pretty sure you’ve probably read a few things around here, but I don’t know if you’ve read about him and his particular case of cancer. I stumbled on a blog post that you might find interesting. The post is there mostly to question his methods, but within it, there’s some info about how he treated his pre-cancerous and cancerous lesions:
– ?Once I asked Ray Peat about PAP testing and what could be done if the PAP test came back with a bad result. He told me this was a way to threaten women into unnecessary procedures. If you used vitamin A, vitamin E and progesterone and thyroid, both orally and topically – you would be fine within a month. He’d given this advice to many women over the last 50 years and it always worked. He’d thought about it when he had pre-cancerous and cancerous lesions in his mouth and used vitamin A and E and pregnenolone and thyroid to heal them (which they did). He realized that the mucous of the mouth was similar to that of the vagina. I have given this advice to many women during the last couple of years. It always worked.-
You can read the whole post here:
<a href="http://ispeatright.blogspot.mx/2013/04/my-blood-glucose-makes-me-find-out.html
I don’t know if this info might be helpful to you, but I just thought of sharing it. I’m also sending my very best wishes and prayers your way.
Thanks for addressing Budwig, Matt. It’s been a sticking point for me in regard to Ray Peat’s universal anti-pufa dogma. Some thoughts:
first, Budwig was a lipid specialist in chemistry and her major interest was in respiration and fat quality. it’s important to stress that she was always firm about combining flax oil with the sulfur amino acids found in dairy. It was her belief via her research that when properly combined, *high quality* pufa combined with sulfur aminos created lipoproteins that reactivated faulty respiration, by effecting both mitochondria and the quality of cell walls. She did not see the same effect with taking a ALA by itself, and warned against it.
Second, its interesting to me that dr. Emanuel Revici used long chain fatty acids and sulfur amino acids to restart faulty respiration in his overly anabolic cancer patients. Revici felt that cancer always began as an anabolic process in the body. Both ALA and sulfur aminos, as well as calcium and magnesium were catabolic, that is, pro-oxidative. Budwig was adamantly against the use of saturated fats, calling them “respiratory poisons” and restricted them in her protocols.
Revici found that cholesterol was a strongly anabolic substance and if an imbalance of sterols built up in cell walls, would impede oxidation.
Ray Peat never deals with quality in regard to pufa, and possibly throws out the baby with the bath water. All of the studies he quotes are conducted with rancid pufa, taken out of context of normal diets, and very different than anything that Budwig would suggest.
It’s possible that pufa-noia is dangerous. It’s possible that modest amounts of fresh, high quality pufa is necessary for proper metabolism. This exposes the danger of relying on too many cherry picked “scientific” studies in developing a proper diet for one’s self. The issue of quality is never addressed in studies, never addressed by Peat, and yet it is quality that is the essential issue when using long chain fats. Budwig, as a multi-degreed scientist with an emphasis on fats should not be dismissed easily, especially given that she worked with many people clinically.
Great input Sean, and well-presented thoughts. I hold Peat in very high regard because he is not a specialist, but his research is very broad, encompassing many fields. This gives him a really good vantage point to weave things together and make some sense of it all. His breadth of knowledge is enough to establish great trustworthiness. But it, like anyone’s research, is still quite limited in some respects. It’s impossible not to have blindspots with all that’s out there.
I love Ray, and have listened to dozens of his interviews and read his many articles countless times since 2004. He was the motivation for me to get over my carb phobia. I just wonder, in regard to flax in particular (I agree on crap fish oil) whether he might have a blind spot due to his relentlessly anti PUFA perspective. I find the totality of Budwig’s perspective on oxidation and mitochondrial metabolism to be very intriguing -and tempting to try again. I did the Budwig diet once, as an athletic training aid for five months in 1996, and achieved the highest vitality and fitness level of my life. Fell off the wagon and never tried it again.
You might be interested in Brian Peskin’s vantage point on these fatty acid issues Sean.
I ve met Brian and have corresponded with him. He’s another person who stresses the quality issue, and unlike practically everyone else, sees a role for linoleic acid, high quality, modest amounts….
Hey Matt,
I just googled Brian Peskin and found this Newsletter article on losing weight:
http://www.brianpeskin.com/BP.com/e-newsletter-archive/2007-01diet.pdf
Judging by the fact that almost everything he wrote is wrong, I do not think I would want to take his advise on PUFA.
Nikolay Shevchenko claims that a mixture of unrefined sunflower oil mixed with vodka can be used as a treatment for cancer.
The website is in Russian
https://sites.google.com/site/nvshevchenko1/
Great post, Sean. What do you consider to be high quality pufa sources? Is there a simple way to consume them as part of a well-rounded diet? I’m a huge fan of raw milk, so I’m already there on the milk aminos.
Well, for example, Barlean’s flax oil is created in a light and oxygen free environment and then nitrogen flushed, to help prevent rancidity. My point, essentially, is that any research studies on flax in particular, or PUFA in genreral, are not conducted with that kind of quality oil. Since it is flax oil’s ability to be easily oxidizable that makes it beneficial to cancer patients, diabetics, etc, according to Budwig, then the quality of the oil is of the utmost Importance.
Again, this is my issue with Ray Peat, whom I greatly admire, in that he is drawing conclusions on PUFA based on studies that are all using poor quality PUFA. If quality is a major issue and scientists are not conducting research with high quality oils OR combined and administered as Budwig suggests, how can we extrapolate from these studies the effect of something like ALA on cancer in particular and metabolism, in general?
There is also this tendency to get stuck in the free radical model, elevating so-called antioxidants to miracle cure status, but Budwig called them oxidation inhibitors and frowned on their use for cancer. If cancer is a problem with retarded oxidation, often, then how appropriate would they be? This, being something that Recivi would echo. It’s no surprise that something like copper is so important – another catabolic nutrient – in it’s role in cytochrome oxidase, and also catabolic selenomethionine. Peat is critical of methionine and cysteine, and yet they are crucial to both budwig’s and revici’s systems, in conjunction with PUFA.
I would also state that I am currently NOT using flax oil, as Peat has so thoroughly – for the last 10 years – made me paranoid about PUFA. I do think about this – and Budwig – a lot, and I wonder if my crappy metabolism is not actually caused sometimes by decade long PUFA avoidance. I find it interesting that in Ayurveda, something like Sesame oil, high in linoleic acid, is considered therapeutic for people with vata imbalances. Besides cancer, many vata qualities tend to mirror hypothyroidism. Most of Ray Peat’s quoted studies concern LA vegetable oils of undoubtedly poor quality. it’s no doubt that processed fish oil is toxic and a respiratory inhibitor, something Budwig would agree with. That leaves us with high quality ALA flax oil. For me, an open question.
Why don’t you experiment with it Sean, and let us know your results? Really. What’s the worst that could happen?
Hahahaha…the worst that could happen?? Everything Ray Peat and Danny Roddy talk about! That said, still tempting to try the actual budwig protocol as I have longtime prostate issues, metabolic crappiness and feel like cancer is inevitable eventually unless I can turn it around, or get a lifetime supply of armour!
: )
Well, what the hell,maybe I will. Nothing else is working!
a few years ago i was commenting on stephens blog at whole health source about the whole pufa quality factor…like taking Udo’s 369 oil or something like that… he didn’t seem to fond of it, but guys like Ori hofmeckler are all about it.
Sean, I really think you should. Give it a three month trial. I HIGHLY doubt it’s going to kill you, and if the Peat stuff isn’t helping you now, then do you expect it to help you in the future?
My experience with this stuff suggests that you see the benefits from something relatively SOON, or you don’t see them at all. Alternative Medicine has gotten by with a lot of shit pimping the line that, “it takes time to see results.” Very often, what makes you feel better is a subset of the regimen proposed. You can figure out what that is. For me, I needed the extra carbs in the Peat diet, and it’s benefits stopped there. Nothing magical happened from drinking that much OJ or that much milk, or any of the other god damn neurotic dietary choices he proposes. No need to throw the baby out with the bathwater, but for goodness sake, throw out the bathwater.
Ok Thomas, experiment begins today!
Good luck. Keep us updated. If you want to share with me, my email is entheogens@yahoo.com
I wonder if your high grade PUFA vs Low Grade PUFA concern is relevant. If PuFa is evil because PUFA is reactive, then high grade PUFA is more reactive.
There is a website Krysalis, that says antioxidant combinations can deliver an oxygen affect to cancer cells. I wonder how 400 IU d-alpha three times a day, 1000mg Vitamin C three times a day and Coenzime Q 50mg a day or more would work against cancer.
I should have said d-alpha tocopheryl Vitamin E. High dose Vitamin E has a reputation of preventing the cellular absorbtion of the rest of the Vitamin E complex.
In the beginning researchers used the whole vitamin E complex for experiments. Vitamin E complex was too unstable to be used. Then oil companies invented dl-alpha tocopheryl, which was stable and could be used for experimenting. At low doses ( 15 IU, 30IU ) dl-alpha tocopheryl worked as well as natural d-alpha tocopheryl. Michael Murray says artificial Vitamin E has 7 other chemicals that compete with the alpha Vitamen E and probably other parts of the Vitamin E complex for absorption. I assume the d-alpha tocopheryl Vitamin E was pure. I haven’t seen dl-alph tocopheryl work at dosage above 200IU. I believe higher doses of artificial vitamin E, the other 7 competitors for cellular absorption seriously interfere with absorption with all parts of the Vitamin E complex. I believe 800 IU of dl-alph tocopheryl will be much less affective than d-alpha tocopheryl.
Another Doctor-not well-known in the English-speaking word, but well-known in the French-speaking world- was the Swiss Doctor Catherine Kousmine-who had some success in treating cancer and multiple sclerosis (she has passed but there are still practitioners of her approach). Like Sean, she stressed the importance of HIGH-QUALITY Pufas. Worth checking out.
Thanks
Very interesting, Thomas…..
Thanks Sean, that is really good food for thought. Quality of the product always makes a huge difference in the outcome. I will check out Barlean’s and do some muscle testing to see if my body wants it.
If I could find a publisher, I would translate her works into English. I am astonished to discover they still haven’t been translated into English.
I’ve been doing a great bit of research on cancer and diet (survivor since 2006), and the Ketogenic Diet (used to control childhood epilepsy since the early 20th century), based on removing sugars (including most fruits except berries) and adding high quality fats (such as virgin coconut oil, organic grass-fed butter, extra virgin olive oil and grass-fed meat fats) with moderate protein, seems to have an incredible success rate, literally starving the cancerous cells what they feed on. I would love to hear what you, Matt, have unearthed about a Ketogenic diet. What I’m finding is cancer feeds on the wrong fats (vegetable, hydrogenated, etc.), processed foods and sugars. But quality fats actually deprive cancerous cells from what they need. Any thoughts?
Everything “seems” to have an incredible success rate if you believe the claims of those promoting various strategies. If the ketogenic diet did have a notably positive effect I think it would provide an interesting clue as to the mechanisms involved in cancer’s development. As of now I think the theory that cancer feeds on glucose and that keto diets are starving the cancer cells of glucose is another one of those logical sounding oversimplifications. Glucose is floating around in the cells and in the body whether you consume it or not. Blood glucose is often higher on a keto diet than on a regular diet, for example.
But I think any diet that is a radical departure from the diet that was consumed while cancer developed is probably going to yield positive effects – at least in the short-term with a certain percentage of people.
You echoed why I am always so cautious to believe anything new (even old, but introduced in a new way) — “any diet that is a radical departure from the diet that was consumed while cancer developed is probably going to yield positive effects” and I think that applies to any illness, condition, including obesity. Much more study is needed…and the search for what makes me healthiest continues :-) (And thanks, Matt, for all your insight, knowledge and generosity to share all you’ve learned, deduced and experienced! You’re a very valuable resource for those of us searching for sustainable health!
I would like to make another note about the Ketogenic diet as a seemingly logical tool to at least consider if one had cancer. The reason so many on here are down on low carb dieting is because we know that it seriously puts a wrench in the metabolism. Other hormones begin to down regulate leading to what seems to me as an almost dead zone. You’ve essentially slowed the aging process considerably, but you’ve also slowed the growing, and regenerating process. A Ketogenic diet is a tool for epilepsy, due to ketones being used as brain fuel instead of glucose, thus NOT feeding what is essentially a genetic neurological pathway defect that could makes one’s life extremely unpleasant, and downright dangerous. We know that carbohydrates are like rocket fuel for the metabolism. What happens when you eat too much? You obviously start to store it because the goods, are just too good. A Ketogenic diet seems logical in that it effectively slows down the metabolic process.
Nature is constantly trying to take us out. Slowing down nature’s wishes seems like your best bet if your goal is to extend your years. I suppose you could let nature takes it’s course, you can chop your boobs off, or you can try whichever diet you think has a shot.
The idea that lowered metabolism = life extension isn’t really true. It’s old-school logic that defies reality. Here’s some interesting reading on it. http://jeb.biologists.org/content/208/9/1717.full
“Nature is constantly trying to take us out.” My experience is more that nature wants to live at all costs.
I’m having a real hard time getting my pee to stay yellow throughout the day. I don’t feel like I’m drinking too many fluids — I eat a lot so I drink a lot. But all I’m seeing happening with my body is this: slow, steady weight gain that doesn’t seem to be stopping. I’m approaching an extra 60 lbs — was once 180 and now am 235, I’m 6’1″. My pee gets clear in the evening, and I’ve never not woken up at night to go pee, sometimes not falling asleep again until 5 or 6.
I eat salty foods, and I’ve tried limiting my fluid intake. Everytime I do this, though, everything I eat becomes disgusting. If I don’t have at least 10oz of some kind of drink each meal, I can hardly put down a small bowl of mashed potatoes or even a scoop of ice cream. (And for that matter, ice cream always leaves me cold in the hands)
I don’t know what to do. It’s been six months now and I can’t seem to get my pee yellow or my sleep in order, and I’m jus getting bigger and bigger. People around me just think that I’m going crazy and that I’ve hopped onto another fad diet. Help!
Salted Dates + Rice Cakes get me aligned fast. no weight gain
+1 for salted dates. I put the dates in a bag, pour some salt in, shake them around, and repeat until they look pretty well coated. Take a bag to work every day and it’s worked wonders for stabilizing my mood and keeping me from crashing.
I’ve also been mixing baking soda with orange juice pretty frequently. Somewhere around 1/2 tsp baking soda for 16-20oz of orange juice. It carbonates it, tastes very good, and the extra sodium seems to help balance it out.
Martin, how were you BEFORE you started the above approach? The same, worse, better? There *MAY* be a tweek, but don’t try to fit yourself into a procrustean bed. It’s very possible, this ain’t working for you. If you are not feeling better AND you put on 60 pounds, it may be time to go back to square one and dump this present approach. My suspicion is that this approach works for some people (especially those who were anorexic, had some eating disorder or were severely orthorexic) and not for others. Don’t think just because it APPEARS that everybody up here is doing well, that that is the case across the map. It isn’t. I have spoken to people who share your situation in some ways (lots of weight gain, with no benefits).
Yeah I would try increasing the ratio of carbs to fat to start – relying on things like dates, rice, etc. like Chris suggested as opposed to ice cream and other really rich foods.
Also, the fact that ice cream is cold may not help. I like warm foods better than cold almost all the time (even in summer.)
It took me a while to figure it out too, but I think I’m headed in the right direction now. when I first started, I thought I was not drinking much, but looking back I can see that I was still drinking 48 oz or more a day. Now I usually don’t drink more than 24-ish oz in a day, and never plain water, and I feel much better. Also, I add salt to everything. no matter what it is, I sprinkle salt on it, usually not even enough to for it to taste salty, but a little extra at every meal helps me stay warm.
Rice Cakes and dates have the effect of just destroying my digestion. I came to this website with mostly digestive complaints, but then realized how cold I was and how clear my urine, etc. Things on the whole have gotten much better; and my stress levels have significantly decreased. I can basically eat any food I like now, just as long as it doesn’t have corrosive qualities — fibrous foods are still a no go.
I’m also lucky to have financial support — right now, I’m just riding on family members who are willing to give me the break. I think that there is, however, a stress component to consider when someone is idle like I am. Establishing a new routine of enjoyable activities that are different from my previous ones has proven to be psychologically very discombobulating. I’m not used to being content with walks, with light reading, with listening to the radio — I’m part of a generation that has been overstimulated, and I think that this is part of the stress I’m experiencing.
As of now, I’ve only recently been able to do things like drink whole milk, eat cheese and ice cream, and my body is just going nuts with dairy cravings. I think I’ll honor them for now — already though, my appetite is welcoming a broader array of foods than before.
Still though — if I move around all day, and I walk for more than 45 mins, I get those shaky sleepless nights and multiple urine secretions that other people might get if they go for an intense run.
So on the whole, Thomas, yes things have gotten better. I think I made the mistake early on, however, that eating for heat would solve all my problems and that I would reach a state of picture perfect health. I think that attitude set me up for a dissapointment that, in itself, is ultimately stressful and counterproductive to Matt’s method.
Interesting side note: plain water makes me sick to my stomach.
Can’t remember where I read it, but the article said that only 10% of allopathic doctors said that they would submit to chemotherapy for themselves if they had cancer.
Cancer is just another of nature’s selection processes. Some people will just die earlier than others. Don’t fight it. Enjoy your time on Earth. Obviously, if you are murdering yourself with your lifestyle, do make changes, listen to your body (or even better, make the little bugger listen to YOU) and you will live longer and more enjoyably but apart from that, just lose the fear of these ailments. Fear attracts cancer.
(I have no studies to back this up.)
BB,
This is the best advice, yet the one people don’t want to hear.
Modern science has deceived people into believing that disease is unnatural and that it is possible to defeat it in all cases, as long as we apply the right techniques.
I believe that many of the people who get cancer before sixty are the ones who would have died much younger, were it not for medical intervention like vaccines, antibiotics, hospitalization, surgery etc. Medicine has interfered with the process of natural selection early in life, but mother nature wins out. That is why the cancer rate seems to be higher today than it was say, 100 years ago. Hundreds of years ago, we did not have the technology to keep very sick young people alive. If a young person’s body could not heal itself, then the person died. Before modern medicine, we also had a high infant mortality rate. Not saying these things are good, but people with unfavorable genetics were eliminated early and were not around to get diseases in later years.
People from non-western cultures seem so much more at ease with death than Westerners, especially Americans. You have been lied to: Medicine and medical science is mostly useless, with the exception of traumatic and acute illnesses. Most people who recover from cancer, even with conventional treatment, would have recovered anyway, since it is a known fact that many cancers go into remission with no treatment of any kind. And there are studies which show that people who get no treatment survive longer than people who do and have a better quality of life in their final days.
The diet and lifestyles of people who live a long time and don’t get cancer are too varied for anyone to state definitively what foods cause cancer. No single food causes cancer, not even PUFA, unless you are eating nothing but PUFA, because the carcinogenic effect of one substance can be intensified or nullified by another substance (likely unknown) in the diet or by genetics and lifestyle choices. Genetics play a factor and there is nothing that you can do to change your genes.
I know quite a few people over 75 who eat terrible diets. And none of them know anything about nutritional science. One thing these people seem to have in common is a relaxed mental attitude about life. They spend their time living life instead of reading about how to live life. By the time the people on this blog figure out what will give them perfect health, their time will be up.
Buddhists principles (meditation, mindfulness, loving kindness, detachment etc) are a wonderful way to deal with the inevitability of death. And you don’t have to become a Buddhist to incorporate Buddhist philosophies into your life.
Here here, well said.
The mind is an extremely powerful thing and we are only using 10%
I lost my mother in 2009 after a brutal battle with an unknown cancer for three months. It was terrible. I wish that kind of suffering on no one.
I had her on Essiac and oxygen drops. We *almost* tried MSM, which to this day I don’t know if it is snake oil or not…but it probably is. We juiced beets and carrots and mom drank that too.
All I am sure of, is my mother was by far, the most negative and stressed out person I’ve ever known. We can eat as ‘healthy’ as we want and do all the ‘right’ things, but if you are one massive stress ball…all the saturated fat or fresh juice isn’t going to save you.
I have no idea what I’d do if I was stricken with it one day. And I still don’t know how I feel about ‘cancer diets’. It’s fascinating though…
I completely agree Pat. I am a pessimist by nature, maybe because I had a really rough upbringing I don’t know. As the negative thoughts enter my mind, it only creates more stress in my body. I’d love to be one of those serial optimists. Honestly, they seem to have the same shit sandwiches dealt to them as a pessimist like myself, but at least they don’t have to agonize over it. Interesting note though, I’m a pessimist and my roomie is an optimist, and we seem to have the same fucked up lives. Sometimes you just get what you get.
Val and G.T.
The biggest thing to ever change my outlook on life was a combination of mindfulness meditation training (an 8-week program I took), and 5Rhythms classes. They are synergistic and have the same purpose. I highly, highly recommend both.
I have my moments, but I’m nowhere near the stressball I once was.
LOL shit sandwiches!
Did you read DYING TO BE ME ?. She had multiple tumors, her organs shut down, she went into a coma, then came back and started healing, even though she ate lots of ice cream. Some famous oncologists said they’d never seen anything like it.
The Hindu Yogi Paramahansa Yogananda, said that the life force in the body is always the only healer, and that any healing method works according to its success in rousing and rebalancing the life force.
Trall, the great hygienic doctor said, “All treatments ride to glory on the innate healing power of the body.”
I also agree completely about stress and negativity having a mighty impact.
What about protein cycling diets to promote autophagy? Eating high fat and carbs most days to maintain metabolism but restricting protein. Then eating high protein every few days to top up.
I would think one of the active mechanisms in a ketogenic diet or anything extremely catabolic would be increased autophagy. It’s probably much easier to trigger autophagy with something like intermittent fasting than what you just described.
Yeah except that you have to deal with low glycogen if you do that. The advantage of restricting protein is that it doesn’t affect your energy levels in the short term.
Ron Mignery wrote a short free ebook on the topic if you haven’t read it. Didn’t Ray Peat also have a theory about restricting a couple of amino acids.
Hey Martin. I completely understand what you’re going through. As someone who as been trying to re-feed for the last year and half I have to mention something that is kind of a given but isn’t really given as much attention as the re-feeding is. That is you have to drastically reduce stress. The reason your body isn’t holding on to the minerals is because whatever you are doing is still too stressful to your body. I really think this is the most important component to healing your metabolism. The re-feeding is just an aid to try and get you back to normal, but you won’t get far if you do not eliminate the stress. This is the hardest effin’ part in a world where we have to pay our damn bills. I’m in limbo staying at a friends place for free. I notice when I don’t worry about my bills or getting a job, I don’t crave “junk” food nearly as much.
I agree with Val about the stress. After reading Matt’s ebooks to raise metabolism, and reading other bloggers who tried his protocol with success, I hoped I would have my own success by now. I am stuck and frustrated. It is one thing to say reduce your stress and another to be able to do it. I am basically pessimistic even tho I want to be more positive. It’s just not who I am, but I think it is important to work on that. I am reading a book called Mind Over Medicine by Lissa Rankin, MD. She has some tips or maybe I should call them exercises to do to help be more positive. I am going to try them. I also am trying to be outside in the sun everyday (no matter how hot it is!), I am doing yoga & taking walks. I work on my garden. I do these things to get my mind off any stress, like sleepless nights & not losing weight. I think that stuff will come later after I get into a more positive mindset. I even think I might be ok with not losing the weight if it’s not meant to be. I am not obese, just not comfortable with the extra pounds I put on.
I am agreeing with how important a factor stress can be. However, it can be stressful attempting to remove stress for some people. Just like diets, a lot of people have theories over what works and may work with some people and not others.
We all need to earn an income to pay for our food and do other things that involve stresses that are just part of life. Unfortunately, there are people in this world who have no empathy or conscience and deliberately stress other people out around them to have one over on them or to feed their love of drama. Some of us are unlucky enough to have them as parents. Attempting to employ techniques may not be appropriate until such people and their issues are no longer in your life. Getting them out may be very stressful in itself and then you will have to deal with aftermath that will also be stressful but I don’t think this is as stressful as optimistically staying.
Pink, I so hear you. My life has been one stress ball the last 12 years since I left home. I grew up in an abusive household, so I was anxious to get the fuck away from my crazy ass family. I got involved in drugs and drinking I suppose as self medication, and my health just deteriorated. Now I’m in the midst of trying to get the hell out of the mess that all my dieting caused. I dieted hardcore because I thought I could “cure” all my problems. It’s a lot easier said than done to remove the stress.
Part of the problem here is, you can’t just decide to put your problems in the past and put on a happy face and expect all the to ok. Your issues will bubble to the surface and cause problems every time. You have to work through what your issues are before you can expect to really get to the happiness. Sure, you can use positive thinking, etc. while you are working through them, but you can’t just say, oh well, my abuse is in the past, I’ll just be happy now and use mantras and positive thinking to make everything ok. If you do that, you will do things like ending up in another abusive relationship, getting anxiety and depression, suppressing your personality and all kinds of fun stuff like that. Facing the pain is the only way, sucky as it is.
Some people work through their problems quickly and some slowly, but ignoring/blocking them will not make them go away. It’s like a toothpaste tube. If you squeeze it with the cap on, the toothpaste will just come out the other end.
I found out about Budwig’s protocol through our vet (who recommended the cottage cheese and flax part of it for our dog’s cancer). We also used something called Salvestrol, which is a substance produced by plants but isn’t much in our food supply anymore. It does something like activate the cytorome p-450 pathway. Don’t remember and I don’t have the book in front of me right now. Anyways, his tumour shrunk rapidly and he perked up a lot. It is still hanging in there, but he’s also an older dog . . . So there’s a canine testimonial for Budwig’s formula I guess, or salvestrol . . .
Unfortunately, I’ve had breast cancer three times in the past four years. I’ve gone through the radiation treatments twice and chemotherapy twice, and several surgeries. The last time around was May 2012. Then the decision was made to have a mastectomy.
Getting a cancer diagnosis is terrifying. These alternative methods are no match for cancer cells. I’ve investigated all of them and some others during the past four years. If radiation and chemo cannot always stop cancer why would Budwig’s cottage cheese or Gerson do any better? I would never take the chance.
Radiation and chemo do not heal, they kill healthy cells along with the good ones. Your body heals. If they did cure, you cancer would not have returned in such a short time. Natural treatments give the best chance of restoring the body’s ability to HEAL itself, but there is a point of no return in everything.
You had breast cancer THREE times in FOUR years yet you trust conventional treatment? You were not cured and don’t be surprised if the cancer shows up somewhere else in your body. Chemo and radiation cause cancer and not just in the areas treated. I know people who did not get conventional treatment but are alive years after a cancer diagnosis and even more people who have died or developed resistant cancer after conventional treatment.
Watch the documentary Cut, Poison, Burn. You have been brainwashed into trusting doctors.
Since I’ve had a lot of cancer in my family, I’d like to give a little bit of a rundown on each person & how they dealt with it. My brother had what I assume was skin cancer on his lip. He died at the age of 42 after having no kind of treatment whatsoever & eating a normal American diet. But he also had been in & out of mental facilities from the time he was 20 because he suffered from schizophrenia & was on many different drugs.
My mother had breast cancer when she was in her late 50’s. She had one breast removed, but never had chemotherapy or radiation. She never had another problem with breast cancer, but got skin cancer on her nose when she was 83. She had it removed but had no other treatments. She suffered from Alzheimer’s the last 15 years of her life, but she lived until she was 85. I think what killed her was that she refused to eat because she couldn’t remember that she was hungry due to the Alzheimer’s. She also didn’t do any special kind of diets, but ate normal American food.
My niece was diagnosed with retinoblastoma at the age of 9 months. She had chemotherapy & radiation, & she’s still here with us today at the age of 19, but she is blind. A few years ago, she had one eye removed because the retina detached, so she has one glass eye. I’ve done tons of research on cancer, & from what I understand, this is one of the few cancer’s that chemotherapy actually helps. My niece has done nothing else special & she eats the crappiest diet ever. The sad thing is that the radiation caused her face not to develop properly & she now has to be checked every 3 months for life because she will probably get bone cancer in the future from all the radiation she had as a baby.
My husband was diagnosed with stage 4 lung cancer at the age of 46. It was a hard decision to not go through with the surgery & chemotherapy they recommended, but they wanted to cut out more than half his chest including one lung, do tons of chemotherapy, & still didn’t give him much chance to live. Instead he did the Budwig diet & also drank Flor-Essence, but they didn’t help either. He was under a huge amount of stress from having to work while being in a lot of pain. And he just gave up & lost the will to live after the doctor told him he’d probably die within 2 years anyways, even with chemotherapy. He managed to live only 1 year & 3 months after his diagnosis & died at 48 after being in the hospital for six weeks after becoming paralyzed because the cancer had spread to his spine. One thing I regret was not letting him just eat whatever he wished because I thought all the crappy food would kill him. The joke was on me I’m sad to say, & I’m crying as I write this.
I’m 55 & have never had cancer. After doing tons of research for years, I keep an ongoing list of things that may help cancer & things that may not help in case I ever get it myself. I’d definitely stay away from chemotherapy & radiation. I’d also try to keep the stress down & have a strong will to live. Other than that, I’d just live my life & be happy as much as I could. I’m sure I’d probably try many different things from my list, but just not sure which ones. I don’t know if I’d change my diet much though. I already eat a pretty clean diet with a few treats here & there. Maybe I’d go opposite & just eat whatever the heck I wanted, including tons of junk, & at least be happy when I go out. I’m not sure that doing away with sugar is the way to go. I’ve heard some alternative doctors say that fruit is full of antioxidants & because cancer thrives on sugar, eating fruit would cause the cancer cells to open up & then let the antioxidants get in there to attack. Having cancer itself causes stress, so it’s all a crap shoot anyways.
Cindy I’m so sorry :( My heart goes out to you. I’m bummed out about being alone because of all the stupid health problems that dieting has caused me, but I couldn’t imagine losing my life partner mid-life. Cancer seems to be so terrifyingly rampant these days.
Cindy I’m so sorry. I sincerely hope you and your niece find ways to live with joy.
Cindy, this is really tough. Hope you can stay healthy and happy.
Stress & Cancer 3-minute thesis :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c_AhG6pTpfA
hey matt i have a god recipe, it is a milkshake. half whole milk, half cream, as much icecream and flavouring as you want, you could add melted chocolate even. it is so amaxing you need to try it. i am starting to try just eating my favourite food for a while. i dont mean mediocre food i mean my favourite that i get to make and just eating it to apetite/ i have experimented and i have found i am alot happier and stress free after a meal of my favourite thing like that milkshake rather than eating tonnes and tonnes of potato oven chips so i’m not sure what that says. maybe you could try just following your apetite on only your favourite foods for a little while and see what that does for you. i think maybe if we eat food we dont find really palatable our body could think we are starving. there must be some connection between food palatibility and metabolism and health. of course getting calories if imporant but i dont want to eat tonnes of tonnes of food i dont find extremely yummy so im trying this :)
I am an advocate of only eating exactly what you want to eat. It helped me mellow out around food and raised my body temperature.
and by the way, i think there is a big difference in what you think is palatble after you try eating your extra favourite foods. when i dont include enough extremely good food in my diet, i would even find crackers nice enough to eat. your apetite and cravings to change alot when you include onlythe best in your daily diet. i think it could speed the metabolism up in just a short run but i wil have to see :)
Anyone have experience with sutherlandia (cancer bush) for skin cancer ? I’ve been using it for years with great success when little patches crop up, but I wonder whether it comes around again more regularly as a result? a few months later there’s another one …
I also know a fit, healthy and well nourished 17 year old girl with a melanoma on her leg, how can one explain that at her age? she’s out in the sun a lot with sport, uses sunscreen …
I have read that sunscreen can cause cancer so it depends on what kind she is using.
I have listened to an interview with Charlotte Gerson, she says that the body itself can heal cancer. It makes sense, if it can heal injuries, wounds, colds and other diseases why not also cancer. If the body couldn’t heal itself we would be sick all the time. I think the best things to do to help the bodys own healing mechanism is enjoy life as much as possible and avoid things that makes you feel bad like stress but also chemichals, EMF and other toxic stuff that can prevent the body to work properly.
Some animals can reproduce a limb, we can’t. My point is that some times the body can heal itself and sometimes it can’t.
And it has been that way since the beginning of time.
People need to just accept that death is a part of life.
Hey G.T.
i am late for work, so dont have much time, but depending on what kind of cancer you have, and given your circumstances, you might research the following:
1. There is a long history of using herbal boluses for reproductive cancers. In terms of Chinese medicine, two products come to mind: Yin Care and Vagistatin, a product by Health Concerns. Both are anti viral and are used for cervical dysphasia, etc, etc. That are virally related
2. Reishi mushroom, as already stated might be worth investigating, as is astragalus, though the later would have to be checked out for your immunity issues, as would Eleuthero root, all of which are immune enhanced, given the caveat above.
3. Anti virals include (Latin) isatis root, isatis leaf, andrographis, chapparel, lonicera japonica, viola, etc.
I find Weston Price to be the most reliable source for diet and health. His study of “positive controls” – population groups with no chronic disease, no dental decay, no cancer, no arthritis, no TB (microbe-driven disease), no mental illness – was brilliant and elegant. Compared to the reductionistic let’s-try-to-piece-together-parts-to-make-a-whole type NIH or NSF funded research blind men figuring an elephant approach. With all due respect to the hard working researchers.
Price talked about malignancies vis-a-vis the Eskimo group and discussed how other scientists, including Steffanson, confirmed his observations of no malignancies among people eating traditional diet. Some of that diet was raw, rotting fish and raw intestines from caribou. Imagine the probiotic value of something like that for a virus-driven cancer. J.E. Crewe – one of the doctors who founded the Mayo Foundation – said they used raw milk for healing cancer. Also a food loaded with beneficial microbes.
The other thing modern nutritionists don’t discuss is the value of enzymes in fighting cancer and disease. Edward Howell said that foods that are most enzyme-rich are RAW animal protein and fats. Especially unheated organ meats like liver and pancreas. Much more enzyme-rich than vegetables and even fruit. Aajonus Vonderplanitz is a fruity kind of guy, but he healed from some nasty cancers eating raw, rotting meat (“high meat”).
I’m so thankful that I don’t think like this anymore. Those were tough times.
So what do you find objectionable? Price’s work? Raw milk, organ meats, raw animal foods in general? Or is it the “high meat”? Are there population groups resistant to diseases like cancer that we can learn from?
Nothing wrong with Price’s work, it’s just that the hunt for the perfect diet, and perfect health, is an empty search. I think my health hit an all-time low after fasting on raw milk for a month in search of having some amazing, magical breakthrough that would turn me into a superhuman of sorts. More importantly, a sick person has to eat within his or her limitations. What any individual needs to improve his or her health at any given time is highly variable. Diets must also fit a person’s lifestyle, heredity, current health status, digestive abilities, and more. On top of all that, our instincts guide us just as well if not better than anything we can solve on the intellectual front.
I know that’s a hodge podge of ideas. But those are some cliff notes to why I have completely abandoned this way of thinking. In doing so, helping get people’s health back in better working order is a much easier task.
Key take away from Price’s work is that we need nutritious food to be healthy, especially when it comes to producing healthy children. Lack of nutritious food will cause health problems over the long term. Period. I try not to interpret much more into it.
What constitutes “nutritious” food is up for debate. Price’s recommendions (I forgot which chapter; the binding on my copy of NAPD fell apart) are definitely not paleo or high meat. He seemed to be quite fond of lentils and freshly ground whole grains, as well as grass-fed dairy and organ meats.
what about the guy with cancer who shot up a cow with his germs and then drank the milk from the cow… he got better.
god what was his name, can’t think of it right now.
It’s Jerry Brunetti. He was mentioned in the comments somewhere here already.
I had the pleasure of having a dinner with this guy in London, fantastic man. His cancer is long gone, it has been for 15 years. He created his own protocol with diet and over-the-counter drugs too, he has a DVD on it, available on Amazon.
Uh oh, Vonderplanitz has been brought up. In case, you’ve forgotten the real roots of 180. Been there, done that.
In regards to the benefits of having a higher metabolism, from the link Matt provided above comes this reference link:
http://jcem.endojournals.org/content/96/6/E972.abstract
The conclusion: “Higher metabolic rates as reflected by 24EE or RMR predict early natural mortality, indicating that higher energy turnover may accelerate aging in humans.”
Maybe they were healthier until they died younger?
G Cousens I think advocates under eating so this must lead to a lower metabolism and longivity if a high metabolism leads to accelerated aging! Hey does this mean we are on the wrong track?
The problem is that a lowered metabolism, if it leads to an increased lifespan (I only think this MIGHT be true in a pretty sterile environment such as a laboratory, but there are exceptions to the low metabolism/longevity connection… big ones), leads to a lot of everyday health problems and general malaise. When you lower metabolism you are lowering sex drive, muscle mass, sleep quality, digestive strength and speed, immune system function, compromising mood, and the list goes on endlessly.
Let’s not forget that the Rate of Living Hypothesis has been debunked in animal models. Ray Peat has written about it and the key seems to be to remove the toxic attributes of the meals(like iron) and you will get an animal that lives as long if not longer than the hypocaloric ones.
I haven’t forgotten that. Don’t worry.
How do you remove iron when it is contained in most foods?
By eating high iron foods with things that block (coffee) or compete for absorption (calcium). If you’re already high iron, donating blood a few times a year is a great fix.
Hi Kai
I hate coffee is there anything else that blocks it please? As I ‘m underweight I can’t give blood yet.
You need to be careful with this advice anyway. Women give off blood every month in their periods, so generally don’t end up with iron overload issues. In fact, many women are prone to anemia. If you are lower on iron, the last thing you want to do is block it. I wouldn’t try this sort of thing without doing an iron panel to see where you fall. Not sure if you’ve done this already, but just wanted to point that out.
Also, coffee does not inhibit absorption of heme iron, which is contained in animal foods. It blocks the absorption of non-heme iron, from plants. But non-heme iron is poorly absorbed so I don’t see the point in worrying about them.
I am surprised that Ray Peat recommends drinking coffee with meat and liver to prevent iron absorption because I have not been able to find research that says coffee inhibits heme iron absorption.
https://www.nytimes.com/2009/06/30/health/30real.html?_r=0
After having watched three close family members battle cancer, go through chemo, surgeries, and radiation; I don’t think I would choose chemo anymore. I would go with the radiation myself and or any surgeries that would apply. The idea of puking my guts out does not turn me on. I’ve been sick enough, I can’t imagine wanting to be sick like that. Not that I’m judging anyone for their own treatment choices, I would never inflict my own phobias on others, but I really hate puking.
My thoughts on this, for what they’re worth. Good quality in context, with such protocols, might have the effect on cancer…As another popular alternative cure is also to use hemp oil, that would fall under the category “good pufa” I suppose. However, the fact that they need to be of super good quality with careful processing indicates that could not have been used as such a cure until recently: the technology to process flax seed oil without oxygen for example is a recent invention. WAP demonstrated enough that saturated fats were largely eaten in population not known for cancer so I think it’s safe to stick to those to try preventing cancer rather than using high quality PUFA.
I’m a breast cancer survivor and chemo survivor for 4 years now.
The best treatment so far for stress has been EMDR therapy.
Eat for Heat has been amazing. In less than a month I’m finally off the health diet roller coaster. My extreme food allergies calmed down almost immediately. If I’m confused about a reaction to a certain food, I trust my temperature readings before and after. I take notice of the variation in temperature and put that food/drink in the appropriate increase temp or lower temp category in my mind. I tried the spoonful of sugar/salt trick last night when I woke up at 1am and it worked beautifully. Thanks Matt!
Matt, I focus on two blood tests to gauge how well my current diet plan is helping me stay cancer free. I trust my Vitamin D and CRP (Cardio Reactive Protein) levels. Do you have any comments on those tests?
I have a question that has nothing to do with cancer, but I will ask it here anyway. My mom is 90 yrs old and doing pretty well. Two or three yrs ago she lost her appetite. Every time she sees her dr everything is fine, all the tests are good. He just keeps telling her to eat more. She eats, not because she’s hungry but because she knows she needs to eat. I don’t live with her anymore so I don’t know how much she eats. I think she eats more than a bird. Every time I see her she looks so shrunken. She reminds me of a senior friend I had who recently passed away, who probably ate less than a bird. I know that woman wasted away. My mother is active, still drives, takes an exercise class for seniors. She does take a statin ( I wish she wouldn’t), eyedrops for glaucoma & calcium pills. I don’t think any of those would cause loss of appetite. Naturally none of her clothes fit & everything hangs on her. Thanks for any suggestions, advice.
Ok, I am being serious here. Get her some cannabis. It’s great for “wasting-away” syndrome.
Never mind the other problems that could cause.
Linda, if you are looking for more mainstream advice, it would be a good idea to encourage things like drinking whole milk with meals and eating anything she wants to eat that tastes good. And going for calorie-dense food. She should eat whatever she likes for breakfast even if it’s not a “breakfast food.” Like if she likes tuna sandwiches, that would be ok for breakfast.
Loss of appetite IS a known side effect of statins, so I would recommend bringing it up with her doctor as well as your mom. Why a 90-year-old woman would be put on statins anyway boggles the mind, but doctors do some crazy things.
Yes, I will never mind what problems that will cause, because more likely than not, it will cause exactly NO PROBLEMS. First of all, she’s a 90 year old woman who is wasting away. So for the sake of dietary puritanism, she shouldn’t imbibe pot? Fine, if the removing the statins solves the problem. What if that doesn’t happen? Better to give in to this type of puritanism and watch her waste away than to actually take AN HERB that might actually help?
In most states it’s still illegal. Getting arrested, fined, going to court, jail, etc. are not very good for one’s health. Not saying I agree with the laws, but that’s the way it is.
A 90 year-old woman who is living her life in a high state? That’s not a problem? I think it’s pretty depressing to think about anyone going through life high all the time, on anything, let alone spending the last years of your life that way. It’s not living life. It’s escaping. It interferes with the ability to really connect with others. And pot can cause lots of issues. No different than any other medicine or drug. It can cause psychosis in some people, for one. Apathy. If you have cancer and think it will save to life to do so for a short time, fine, but otherwise it’s just plain old drug abuse.
Thomas I’ve considered this for myself but how do you see it applied? It’s been 30 years since I tried pot and I remember getting more from the alcohol I was drinking with it than the ‘high’. Anyway, to increase appetite would I need to smoke some everyday or how often do you think? By the way my brother (who is a regular pot smoker) & I recommended it for my mother who is 84, in a wheelchair, and in terrible pain but she was afraid of “getting addicted” :>)
That’s true. People get the munchies when they’re smoking dope.
Sorry, the cannabis won’t fly. I didn’t know that about statins. I tried to find info about that but nothing came up. I will definitely tell her. I’ve been trying to get her off statins for a long time. Maybe this will do it. She really does eat what she wants. I know she has ice cream every night. I got her off the lowfat stuff a few yrs ago.
Google: statins and appetite loss
A bunch will come up
GT, you can try this for free:
http://phaelosopher.files.wordpress.com/2012/12/water-life.pdf
best of luck
also:
http://www.whale.to/b/urine_therapy_h.html where you can find this:
[vid] Cure for cancer with Urine Therapy Christina tells her personal story about how she cured her bowl cancer with the use of drinking urine and fasting, a heart felt journey of self healing
GT, have you researched cannabis oil? I have read of it used topically for skin cancer. I hope you find healing.
And how about DCA as a cancer treatment. It has been so efficient that you now can’t buy it in the States, the pharma is so afraid of it. You can howeveR buy it across the border in Canada.
I hope some of you took the time to view the videos from Matt’s recent post on the worst alternative health gurus on youtube. Surprisingly, one of them presented something I would try if I had cancer, at least advanced stage cancer.
The dude ate rotting flesh, yes – rotting flesh. The microbes causing the rotting are introduced into the body when the rotting meat is eaten. The body becomes ‘infected’ with these microbes and of course they go about trying to turn the eaters body into rotting flesh. Scary – and definitely nothing to toy with – unless somebody has cancer. Cancer cells, being weaker than normal cells, would be easier targets for the microbes. That’s they theory behind why it works. It’s kind of an all-natural pathogenic therapy.
He claimed he learned this technique from the native Innuits and that it cured him of his cancer.
I believe that human body in specific circumstances has ability to won with cancers itself.
I am currently battling bowel cancer. Previously had chronic fatigue and heavy metal poisoning, the idea behind all these diets is yes strict detox and a diet that supports the function of a healthy cell, its that simple right? Not at all. The thing with the gerson therapy etc is that back years ago people were a lot healthier than today, Now many people who have cancer also have several issues of health going on which does not make it simply, a one size fits all. I have spent many many hours researching and testing my body, Right now my ability to digest fats is highly compromised (due to the metals etc) and the only thing that seems to ease the pain i experience in the bowels right now is a high veggie diet with moderate fat intake that coming from oils and nuts. Animal protein sends my bowels into despair, And even though i understand the utter importance of animal proteins, there are other areas too address. For the majority of people a strict detox is whats needed, With effective nutrition to restore function to the cells. The fact is most people are heavy metal toxic and they dont even know it, And removing metals is not that simple, It takes a lot of work, a lot of rest and a ton of patience. I have seen endless accounts of people reversing cancer on the gerson therapy when adhered too correctly, And i have seen many that have followed the similar therapy on their own slightly modified, also gaining very good results. Surely these results cannot be ignored, and if it has worked for many, then it has to be taken note of. I for one am one of them cases that if i followed a high fat/meat intake, I might as well put the coffin on the lid now, as the pain comes back very quickly and sharply with this sort of diet. The news of viral based cancer is new to me, i will have too look into it more.
hey thats is very interesting. i have the same kind of digestive problems and had been using colloidal silver heavily previously. wonder if i got heavy metal poisoning
Love your post, James hope you’re well, ping me if you want, I’m colon cancer, technically stage 4 but vacillating between undetectable, and 1 swollen lymph node. I’ve been doing really well on a wide variety of plant based protocols, and supplementation. Benfischer66@gmail.com.
When President Reagan had cancer, he went to Germany. They have individualized approaches which combine medical treatments with more natural ones. Do your own research.
I’ve been eating a primarily vegetarian diet for the last 3 years. I had surgery initially, but was diagnosed with colon cancer that recurred 3 years later. Chemo has made me increasingly sick and the side effects from the Avastin have been extreme. My cancer has been reduced to a crawl, and has been actually completely contained to my lymphatic system. Periodically it’s shrunk to undetectable levels, and it’s progression is clearly linked to my dedication to dietary changes. My primary ‘non traditional’ approach, has been juicing about a quart and a half of carrot-ginger,-turmeric, and a few other vegetables. Approx 60 % of my diet is raw vegetables, and fruits. 25% cooked veggies or grains, and 15% processed. I do also take a lot of supplements, but my success, and ongoing remissions have been due to ‘Alternative’ solutions.
Years ago, I recall hearing that those who perform autopsies say that two thirds of all the bodies have some cancer. The lady who wrote “Dying to be Me” had a remission that she claims came upon her when she connected with her Higher Self in an NDE. Her body just started to heal itself. She even kept eating ice cream.
My husband was diagnosed with stage 4 non-hodgkins lymphoma in 2005. He declined the chemo/ radiation that was prescribed to him and used the Budwig Protocol, with amazing success. His cancer is considered “non-detectable” since 2011, and he is in better health with more energy than before his diagnosis. We are now developing a product for pets with cancer based on this very protocol and would be interested in hearing from others who used this either on themselves or their pets.