Recently a lot of people have reported to me that adding the good old-fashioned white powder to their diet has made them “feel like a new man (or woman).”? I’m talking about good old cane sugar of course. Sucrose.
We discussed the possibility that sucrose has special properties, with a tendency to increase carbohydrate oxidation more than other carbohydrates, and potentially raise carbon dioxide (an anti-stress substance)?levels more than other carbohydrates. Ray Peat who we overdosed on in May is certainly a big fan of it, and his support of it comes with tremendous academic backing. Josh and Jeanne Rubin have shared many positive testimonials for the white powder as well.
Yet, historically, white powders?are on a short list of foods that displaced many calories in traditional diets, followed by a predictable decline in health in virtually every way. While many modern humans seem to be better adapted to eating refined foods, it’s still pretty hard to believe that sucrose could comprise a significant portion of the diet and not create some kind of nutritional sinkhole. It is pretty much the only food on earth with no nutrient content.?? And the nutrients that come packaged with other foods have been found relentlessly to be necessary for the proper metabolization and assimilation of those foods over the long haul. The fact that Americans get nearly 1/4th of their calories from nutrient-free added sweeteners doesn’t provide much comfort in the thought of eating a high refined-sugar diet.
So there’s quite the cognitive dissonance going. On one hand white sugar makes you feel great. Warm, energetic, frisky, strong like bull. On the other it seems like a fatal attraction.?It seems almost?like the credit-driven?economies of the world -?providing a false sense of affluence while racking up a completely unpayable debt with inevitable consequence.?The illusion of?wealth.
So I have no choice but to?recommend sucrose-rich fruits instead?- foods that are some of the?most nutritionally-robust on earth packaged with this?wonderful sucrose molecule. They seem like a much better “investment.”? To give you an idea of the nutritional superiority, if you were to eat 3,000 calories of white sugar, you would get 0% of your recommended allowance of vitamin C and zero grams of protein. Eat 3,000 calories worth of?pineapple and you are looking at 5,309% of’the RDA in vitamin C and roughly 30 grams?of protein (and 70-80 grams of fiber vs. 0 in the white sugar for those like myself that think fiber has unique metabolically-stimulating properties). ?Foods like cantaloupe, clementines, peaches, and super-sweet Hawaiian Gold pineapples’top the list of foods richest in sucrose (a generalization would be to say that?citrus, stone fruits, and melons are highest in’sucrose – you can see a list of foods highest in sucrose?here).
The focus of this post is pineapple. I kind of turned on pineapple years ago after noticing that it pretty much brutalized my?lips, tongue, and throat every time I ate it. Pineapple is a very rich source of bromelain, which is a strong protease (a digestive enzyme that breaks?down protein). This seems to me to be the most reasonable explanation for this phenomenon. While unripe pineapple might?be great as a marinade for making meats more’tender, it seems to be capable of tenderizing your mouth and throat when you eat it anywhere short of full ripeness.
So the following video shows some of the simple tricks I use for making sure?my pineapples are very ripe beforeI cut them – as well as’the’technique that I find most efficient for cutting pineapples. Sitting down and eating pineapple all by its lonesome to the point of complete satisfaction?is an incredible, refreshing, invigorating snack that completely eliminates the need and?desire for sweet?junk foods like brownies, doughnuts, sodas, and candy.?For the $2.99 I pay for them, they are?worth every penny.
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Very timely post Matt, i've been unsure about Pineapple for weeks now, since i don't like when my mouth is ripped to pieces. Sometimes i've waited until they are totally brown, and quite squishy, just to be sure! But then they aren't quite as tasty
I'm actually surprised that you pay "that much" for them, since i can actually get them cheaper here in Denmark, which is so expensive in general!
Thanks for sharing. The video was very helpful =)
I like squeezing the leftover pineapple strips over a big glass or bowl to get all the juice I can out of them. Nothing like fresh pineapple juice. I actually was surprised how much there was, too. Also very good exercise :D
One of my favorite techniques for that is folding the strips in half between the heels of my palms, Mr. Miyagi bowing-style (just with my elbows higher), and pressing them together really hard.
That was actually an isometric exercise I learned from the 'Zen and the Art of Self Resistance' website. Never thought I'd be juicing pineapples using it, but it works fantastic.
Bromelain is active in room temperature and above. Putting the ripe pineapple in fridge a couple of hours before peeling/eating will deactivate the enzyme.
I was wondering why Ray Peat recommends eating eggs/dairy/some meats but says to avoid pineapple even though pineapple has less tryptophan (therefore serotonin/estrogen or something I think?) than meat, dairy and eggs.
Sugar has provided some incredible results, especially in sports. Also if I'm remembering correctly from W.A. Price's book, the natives who were in trouble had completely forsaken their traditional diets and they were only eating refined foods with vegetable oils. He also started providing a traditional diet to kids only for 1 meal (lunch) -this single meal was alone enough to counteract the negatives of all the modern foods the kids ate the rest of the day. Don't know how this would have turned out in adults due to a different hormone profile.
I think adopting the body to the combination of some specifically picked modern foods within the context of eating mostly wholesome home cooked meals is the best.
To get the most benefit from sugar, I have been drinking 1-2 mouthfuls of pure maple syrup straight from the bottle once or twice a day. Maple syrup is ~94% sucrose and also delivers a strong profile of minerals.
bananas have more sucrose when not that ripe, the riper they get the more invert sugar
streptococcus mutans love sucrose, which is why I let my bananas get super ripe so they have the least amount of sucrose
Sniff the pineapples butt. The sweeter smelling the better :)
Like Grok, I am a pineapple butt-sniffer. I think the time for pineapple is passing, here, though. Time for melons, almost (which I also sniff).
The last few batches of oranges I got were not very juicy and very pulpy.
Maybe Peat likes sugar because of the cold Montana winter?
Regarding Narenda's comment, Price didn't only provide one nutritious meal, he also administered cod liver oil/butter oil.
Sucrose does make me a new man. A farting man with an itchy rectum and a bad temper. I can feel the candida partying in my guts, athlete's foot, yeasts growing all over the place… pretty much all aches and pains re-surface. For some reason, fruit doesn't cause any of this crap.
Thanks for this post, btw, similar problems have made me steer clear of pinapples for years. Looking forward to giving them another try!
But Matt, can you even eat regular pineapple after having white pineapple? Or were you never so lucky to try?
At the farmer's markets here, only for about a month in the summer, you can get white or "Kona Sugarloaf" pineapple. Soooo much better than regular pineapple, never had a bad one. Can eat the core, sweet, no problems with tongue rot (hubby will eat pineapple till his tongue bleeds). We don't even eat the gold kine anymore, we're spoiled.
Here, you can't let them ripen on the counter, they rot first, so gotta get a ripe one from the get go. We also planted plenny tops, and the first one is almost ready, yay! If you've never seen pineapple growing, it's cool. And strange.
It seems almost like the credit-driven economies of the world – providing a false sense of affluence while racking up a completely unpayable debt with inevitable consequence. The illusion of wealth.
Thanks, Matt. I like the way you combine things like economics with practical advice like this. I did not know about the leaves thing.
As regards sucrose, I am still a bit sceptical. I have mainly eaten fruit in the morning keeping it separate from starches, animal protein and fat. Funny thing is: it will make my hands and feet stay warm all day – so warm my friends started calling me "oven" – but the rest of my body seems to remain cool. (In fact, I have been using my hands to warm myself which is kind of weird.) I am wondering though if this is because fat doesn't heat up as much as muscular tissue (this is just me speculating but I carry around quite a bit of flap and I notice that the parts of my body that are leanest – hands and feet – respond more than for example the arms).
The temperature thing also happens with cocktails, pie and candy (coktails being like rocket fuel). But I still don't like to much of that – makes me feel sick.
PS: A strange side-effect: I have developped quite a craving for beans (kidney, pinto,…) while upping my fruit intake.
But what about Fructose and AGE products? All you guys seem pretty religious about restricting PUFAs and that's cool. But I haven't seen anyone address some of the more worrisome effects of excess fructose. the whole triglyceride/uric acid blah blah connection doesn't particularly wow me. one of the bigger concerns is that fructose has a much higher tendency to cause glycation. Pufa restriction, fine, but why on earth maximizing the crap out of AGE production by eating a crapload/shitton or whatever of fruit??
It's a bummer that Ray Peat can't get some very simple facts straight. that's one of the reasons I'm inclined to poo-poo all of his work.
Anonymous AGE production –
I have eaten high fruit diets before in the past and it seems to reverse many signs of aging. One is that wrinkles in my face diminish. And when I did it the first time many years ago dozens of gray hairs I had completely vanished and came back to their full color, which lasted for another 5-6 years before they started graying up again. I kinda expect the same thing to happen again but we'll see.
It all depends on context. Eating a high fruit diet, if you are healthy and have excellent glucose metabolism, will not lead to high blood sugars or excessive glycation. My blood sugar never goes over 100 mg/dl no matter how much carbohdyrate I eat. I imagine for some that the extra fatty acid production from fructose causes a lot of interference with glucose clearance, and thus is the cause for fructose being more glycating than glucose. But I simply don't believe this is an issue in a body that is running correctly – that is with a high metabolic rate and proper glucose clearance. PUFA restriction seems to help, as does eating a high carbohydrate diet for an extended period of time to enhance glucose clearance.
As many of my followers have shown, carbohydrate restriction is a great way to have higher blood glucose exposure. Eating more carbs is a great way to lower baseline blood glucose and have lower total glucose exposure.
Damn that sounds good. I don't recall having one of these. Glad I didn't. I'm already spoiled enough as it is.
A bet a truly good pineapple grown in good soil would not rot on your counter.
That's good to know. I'll see if I notice a difference. I have had mouth "rot" from eating cold pinepple though I'm pretty sure.
Smelling the thing in general is a good idea. That's good to know that the butt end has the most odor. Kind of like a mammal.
This is an absolutely essential thing to do for choosing good cantaloupe and similar melons. A good melon should smell so strong that your whole house smells like fruity perfume. It should be so strong that smelling it damn near gives you a headache.
That's fascinating indeed. I do think warmth in the extremeties is a really strong sign, but that is quite interesting that the rest of your body feels kinda cold. Don't know what to make of that. As usual, you are a marvel of modern science ahahahaha.
Loving the maple syrup swigging. That is hardcore, and makes me really happy. Of course, WAP didn't feel like you could get away with much sweetener at all. From the looks and feel of my teeth, he was wrong haha. And I wouldn't touch nasty ass butter oil or cod liver oil with a 10-foot pole. Been there done that.
I do use maple syrup and sometimes brown sugar on oatmeal. I'm certainly not afraid of a little refined sugar and respond positively to it just like any sugar. But I eat way too much sugar to get my sugar mostly from refined sugar, if that makes sense.
I wouldn't eat pineapples. They contain a lot of serotonin. Other fruits are much better and safe.
"Many carcinoid tumors and occasional oat cell carcinomas (small-cell carcinomas) produce serotonin. As patients harboring such tumors
have an increase in the urinary excretion of 5-hydroxyindoleaceticacid (5-HIAA, the
principal metabolite of serotonin), the quantitative urinary excretion of this metabolite is the most useful way to diagnose serotonin overproduction (1).
It is reported that some foods contain substantial quantities ofserotonin and that ingestion
of these foods might increase the urinary excretion of 5-HIAA beyond the normal range in the absence ofa serotonin-producing tumor.
Foods reported to contain a high concentration include banana (2), tomatoes (3), plantain(4), red plums (4), avocado (4), eggplant (4),
pineapple (5), and English walnuts (6)."
Serotonin content of foods: effect on urinary excretion of 5-hydroxyindoleacetic acid1?3
Why the need for fruits being high in sucrose? It tends to be a 50-50 fructose-glucose, be it it high in sucrose or not: http://rawfoodsos.com/2011/05/31/wild-and-ancient-fruit/
Matt, I appreciate your response on AGe products. Maybe I should stop sending spam. But I'm still a little worried. Could you show me the errors? It's not that I'm not interested in what your experience is on a high fruit diet, I've noticed the exact same changes (better hair texture, smooth skin ,you name it). But every single in vivo study I've come across confirms that fructose causes more glycation as compared to glucose. It's hard to pin that on poor glucose clearance, because the estimated glycation activity of fructose is ten times that of glucose. And again, based on in vivo studies, this number doesn't appear to be way off…
As a pineapple fan I find this post especially interesting because all my research has told me that pineapples do not truly ripen or get sweeter once they are picked. Over and over it was stressed that one should do the leaf/smell test at the store, and only purchase the ripest ones because what happens at home is in all actuality merely a rotting not ripening. You have expanded my horizons once again! lol
The biggest issue I have with pineapples here in Arizona is trying to consume them before the center of the bottom (the little "navel" I guess you could call it) gets moldy. That happens FAST, and I have to be very careful not to bring them home from the store like that. Your comment about soil integrity makes me really wonder about the quality…hmmm
As for cutting out the core, I've found that if I quarter the pineapple to start with, it takes one quick and easy cut (rather than trying to aim a "v" cut just right) to remove it.
Thanks for this yummy post. Now I need to go gobble some fruit >>>;) (that's a pineaple face, by the way)
interesting experience i'm in the middle having that i haven't read anyone else having.
the past 3 years i've been a fairly regular pot smoker. about 2 years i tried stopping cold turkey and had horrendous mood and sleeping problems that persisted for months with no end in sight. the only way i could feel comfortable and be able to sleep was to smoke a little bit most every day.
ever since i decided to matt stone it i've seen massive improvements in my ability to deal with not smoking pot. like, it's freakin miraculous the level of improvement i've seen. anyways, the only thing that's persisted is my inability to sleep at a decent hour. when i get to sleep, i rest just fine, but my body simply does not want to pass out until 3-4am. shitty thing is that my job requires me to be there at 8 in the morning. i've gone over a month of getting 3-4 hours of sleep a night. not because i wanted to, because no matter how tired my body seemed to get it just would not fall asleep any sooner than 3 most nights. over time i seemed to just get cranked as hell. it's like my adrenaline system would go into overtime to make up the difference. i smoke a little marijuana and BAM i'm out like a light and can fall asleep at 11pm every night no problem.
1 months ago i stopped smoking again. starting last week i'm off work until the 3rd week of July, so i decided to do the same thing with sleep as i've been doing with food this past year; sleep whenever i'm tired, for as long as my body wants to.
the first 7 days have been interesting. i've actually gained 10 pounds (be it fluid, muscle mass, etc…) i'm assuming because all of a sudden my body is acting like i haven't eaten in weeks, and i'm not kidding. salts and sweets taste amazing, and for the first few days i couldn't drink enough alcohol. i'm constantly thirsty. i have been literally eating as much as i want and feel little to no sensation of satiety. my stomach is visibly distended and i'm physically uncomfortable, yet i can totally eat more food (it's getting pretty crazy, actually. my size 32 pants, which use to be slightly loose a little over a week ago don't fit me anymore primarily because of my stomach, but the muscle mass of my thighs and butt area seems to have greatly increased as i can barely slip my legs into the leggings). i've been trying to stick to eating starches because those almost give me a satisfied feeling. thing is 2-3 hours later i get so hungry it's almost like i'm gonna pass out my blood sugar is so low.
my sleep patterns have been weird, too. first night fall asleep at 5am wake up at 4pm, fall asleep again at 6 am, wake up at noon. fall asleep at 6pm, wake up at 2am, etc… i woke up at 8pm yesterday after having gone to bed at 10am and haven't quite been able to fall asleep. the past few nights i've noticed i'm progressively getting more tired during the night and feel more awake during the day, so perhaps that means my circadian rhythm is righting itself?
the good news is that every day i feel more creative and alert than the last. plus, my general mood has been improving.
if anyone could provide any answers as to why my body is going crazy, please let me know. my best guess is that i just eliminated a major physical stress (fighting my bodies natural response to it's desire to sleep), and now my body is reacting to the change in hormones and such.
can't offer much in the way of a bigger story, except that it seems this opportunity is just right for you. eating and sleeping as much as you want of whatever you want is great, and the apparent early signs of normalization seem promising.
i know that when i RRARFed, i had that experience of near insatiable hunger. stick with it. after a month and a half or so, my appetite is a lot lower than i ever remember it being before, and food no longer has quite so powerful a hold on me. i also gained fat, probably some muscle too, but that mostly went away when my appetite lowered.
my guess is you were in some sort of dysregulated state that upset your circadian rhythms, and the pot was medicating or dropping into the background. in its absence, you're rebuilding your capacity to function normally without pot. the good signs you're experiencing, improved mood, creativity, i think point toward a good thing- i would keep at it.
good luck, buddy
Jannis can you PLEASE list some peat friendly fruits? I've yet to find a list anywhere.
Oh yes, white pineapple is wonderful, but the yellow is too. Those little cactus-like plants are such a trip.
I notice that if I pick a good one at the store, it will continue to ripen on the shelf for a few days. It always ripens from the bottom upward (and of course, the bottom is where it attached to the plant, so it's really the top, like with bananas), which is why sometimes the bottom can be borderline moldy and the top still not quite ripe.
I appreciate the AGEs discussion too: that wasn't even on my radar when I last ate a fruit-based diet and was a big part of my phobia of fruit the last couple years. Now, I've been having some cognitive dissonance because I feel so much better in every respect, but there's still that little nagging 'what about AGEs?" thought…
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Where do you buy your pineapples?
Ela, as for AGE products, I'm certainly not trying to create paranoia here. But the connection between fructose and AGE products is pretty straightforward. the solution is simple and has always been there: eat plenty of starch, prefer saturated fat and then add some fruit. this is what traditional philosophies tell us about nutrition with all the various populations that were well nourished. It's very likely that science will eventually come to similar conclusions.
Or, of course, you could choose the other route and binge on sucrose and argue, just like conspiracy theorists (and ray peat), that the big grain industry is pushing complex carbohydrate…
Gr?nthandleren p? V?rnedamsvej er billig, ikke kun med Annanas. Men der er ogs? andre steder i K?benhavn, hvor man kan f? billig frugt.
Nu ved jeg ikke om du bor i KPH?
I'm just getting into digesting your ideas to help with my energy levels and multiple hormone dysfunction naturally. I'm feeling the brain fog lift a bit already with reduced hormone supplements as I'm consuming more food and not snacking between meals.
I've also been reading Jack Kruse's blogs on leptin. Here is an example: http://jackkruse.com/category/leptin/
What are your comments RE his carb recommendations, and the fact that carbs tend to raise these seemingly evil LDL particles, and also that his experience leads seems to point to low carb for battling leptin resistance?
Pineapple is the shit. Nice cutting, too, I get ghetto on those bitches.
Wow ChlOe, good to see you around again!
I've been slaying about 3 to 4 pineapples a week lately. love em.
Tak. Ja, t?nkte godt det var i Kbh -det flyder jo med sm? gode gr?nthandlere derinde ;-)
Jeg er ikke fra Kbh men det kunne jo godt v?re man skulle handle frugt der, hvis man alligevel var i omr?det.
How is the fruit-mania going??
Going to comment on the new blog post today.
Please show us these straightforward studies. Almost all primates are high fruit eaters. It would be a little outrageous to assume that they are not well-adapted, or that there are not complementary nutrients in whole fruits that eliminate the glycating effect somehow. Primates and rodents are known to be effected very differently by fructose.
I think Kruse is assuming that raising leptin causes leptin sensitivity to decline, which is probably false just as it is with insulin – where carbohydrates that raise insulin decrease insulin resistance, not increase insulin resistance.
Anonymous Stoner on Stone-
The brain gets addicted to stimulation with the use of drugs. When you ditch one you will compensate with other forms of pleasure. Stopping any drug, smoking, alcohol, etc. will make someone lean towards the most stimulating foods that are weak substitutes – mostly fat, sugar, and salt, and in your case alcohol.
I think you'll find less cracked out foods to keep your appetite better satisfied, and keeping you relying on physical hunger instead of eating out of a drive for dopamine stimulation out of addictive tendencies.
The sleep will really interfere with your glucose metabolism, appetite, etc. as well. Hopefully you'll be able to sleep and eat your way back to some semblence of normalcy and regularity – synchronizing your system properly. Best of luck.
Feeling like a new wo/man? I can do ya one better.
After 7 weeks of a Peat-influenced diet under the guidance of Josh Rubin (whom you recommended and I gushingly thank you a gazillion times over) my hemoglobin went from 9ish to 12.9.
My doc is scratching his head. I explain that I'm working with a new nutritionist and that I eat lots and lots of sugar in the form of fruits and the dreaded white stuff. More scratching ensues.
I LOVE that I have the labs to prove this.
I'm getting my other knee replaced on July 26th so I'll need all kinds of blood work. Can't wait to see how other numbers have changed!!
I em strrrong like bull!!
Your spot on in regards to metabolism. High starch (tuber or white rice) low protein, lowish to moderate fat diet (20-30% of cals) is ideal as seen by most of todays lasting tribal or hunter gatherer societies. But please please do not reference Josh and Jeane Rubin as some sort of nutrtional and health gurus. They pretty much just repeat what Ray Peat says and while alot of his stuff is great, its not exactly spot on… ie the recommendations for high juice, sugar consumption, etc will probably not benefit everyone and should be taken with a grain of salt. His ideas on salt, thyroid, PUFAS, protein, gelatin, etc are great. It takes someone with a real understanding of how the body and metabolism work to be able to disgtinguish whats good Peat and bad Peat… Josh and Jeane Rubin can;t seem to do this and no offense, but if they follow they own advice the results truly show on their physique. Not everyone has to be ripped or whatever, but there is no debating that there is a healthy, slender ideal that is not too skinny and not too pudgy… Josh (havent seen Jeane) doesn't fit into that sweet spot and thus, he doesn't appear to be credible.
Take a look at Josh's wife Jeanne.
She is definitely in your "sweet spot".
Then whats his deal?
My theory: The vitamin C in the fruit is mobilizing your iron stores, and the IP6 in the beans is mopping up the excess in your gut. Good stuff.
How much did you pay them? I think it's similar to what I wrote above, the vitamin C is mobilizing your iron stores and making them available for building red blood cells.
Matt on AGE products: I get the feeling that you’re missing the point. You think that fructose can only cause glycation by interfering with glucose clearance. It is true that fructose is only in trace amounts present in the systemic circulation, which is BTW probably bad news overall. On the other hand, fructose will also be present in much large quantities in the portal vein after a meal high in fructose. In vitro, fructose has a higher glycation activity, there is nothing controversial about this.
It’s kind of funny that you’re discarding paleo diets for being too ideological and at the same time embracing fruit for being so much more ?natural? than cola. Who knows, maybe fruit is all good good good? But if there is not enough evidence implicating real foods like fruit as a causative factor in disease, it's equally impossible to say that they are safe (moderate quantities of fruit OK, but depending on fruit??)? I’m personally less optimistic, but again, maybe it’s a big trap and fruit is a holy moly item of food.
(And monkeys are totally irrelevant BTW)
?please show us these straightforward studies? surprises me a little.
1)Role of fructose in glycation and cross-linking of proteins.
McPherson JD, Shilton BH, Walton DJ.
2)Advanced Glycation End Products and Nutrition
M. KRAJ?OVI?OV?-KUDL??KOV?, K. .EBEKOV?, R. SCHINZEL1,
3)Plasma levels of advanced glycation end products in healthy, long-term vegetarians and subjects on a western mixed diet
Katar?na ?ebekov?, Marica Kraj?ovi?ov?-Kudl??kov?, Reinhard Schinzel, Veronika Faist, Jana Klvanov? andAugust Heidland
4)Experimental studies on the role of fructose in the development of diabetic complications.
Sakai M, Oimomi M, Kasuga M.
Besides, my point was not to bash fruit, but to at least start a descent discussion about this topic.
This pineapple talk is reminding me of my 22nd year. I was off partying like a fiend and drinking lots of rum and cokes and beer. I moved back home about 15 lbs heavier than I should have been. My mom and I decided to do the Beverly Hills Diet. MASS quantities of grapes, watermelon, pineapple etc, I mean pounds a day and nothing much else. I lost 8 lbs in one week, she at 54 lost about 5lbs. I stuck with it, ate mostly fruit for a long period and lost about 15 lbs while actively running and lifting weights and doing yoga. With the exception of occasional bouts of the runs, I did experience mostly good results and did notice ZERO B.O. at that time. I did eat some salads etc. And true to form I did drink pretty regularly, hey, i was newly divorced and ready to Par Tay!
Any ways, wondered if anyone else ever did that crazy ass diet back in the early 80's?
I love this post. Prior to reading I assumed that all fruits were mainly fructose. Its amazing how nothing could be further from the truth!
I clicked on that link and saw apricots at the top. I LOVE apricots. It turns out that 1 cup, which is 71 calories, a good serving size, only has 1.4 grams of fructose out of a possible 14 grams of sugar! Wow!
It has 9 grams of sucrose. That is less than berries…
Matt on AGE products: you explicitly asked me to reference studies on the relationship between fructose and AGE products. I could reload my shotgun if you want to and give you some more studies… I immediately admit that the tone of my last post was a little inflamed, but ?'d really appreciate some kind of response. I realize that whole foods contain tons of cofactors like vitamin C, B6 etc., but really, how in heavens name can you ignore the literature on fructose and AGE products (yes, you have to literally ignore it). I mean, primates? chimps?, you gotta be kiddin me right?