Vitamin D, as the great Charles De Marr might’ve put it, is ‘the hottest thing since sunburn! (Line at 7:05 mark in THIS VIDEO).
Mercola’s talking about it. Nora Gedgaudas is talking about it. Al Sears is freaking out about it. Even Joel Fuhrman is talking about it (at the expense of completely negating his vitamin D-less dietary recommendations). Everywhere I turn somebody’s going on and on about the power of vitamin D, and its absence from modern man’s menu.
When I read Weston A. Price’s Nutrition and Physical Degeneration, Price talks extensively about vitamin D being an important ?activator? of other nutrients. In other words, nutrients, which work as a team, depend upon vitamin D. It’s not just that vitamin D is important, or simply one of the team players. It’s like, the game can’t be played without it. Playing the game without vitamin D is like trying to play a game of baseball without a pitcher on the field (and you thought baseball WITH a pitcher was boring!).
But I gathered from reading Price that vitamin D was something you could get from a blend of key animal foods such as eggs, butter, whole milk, cream, liver, and so forth. When I did some research on the vitamin D content in most common foods however, I found the numbers not easily adding up to ?10 times the average American’s intake,? which is what Price reported of the vitamin D content of native diets free of degenerative and infectious disease.
To get thousands of IU of vitamin D per day, you’d have a lot of work cut out for you eating eggs (25IU per yolk), or butter, or liver, or? well anything really. Getting that much vitamin D is virtually impossible without consuming tons of cod liver oil, or fatty fish such as salmon, herring, or mackerel.
Most of our vitamin D, as it turns out, comes from the sun, but in winter at substantial Northern or Southern latitudes, vitamin D synthesis does not occur. On top of that, wearing sunscreen, which most idiots do, inhibits vitamin D synthesis on those rare occasions that we modern humans venture into the great outdoors. Even with proper, unthwarted sun exposure, vitamin D synthesis from sunlight is by no means a guarantee. Dark-skinned people, who have by far the lowest serum vitamin D concentrations on average (90% of African American women are thought to be vitamin D deficient ? and that’s based on the low bar set by modern medicine for what constitutes a healthy D level), need dietary D even more.
So yes, as we enter the dark days of winter in the Northern latitudes, it’s time to step up our vitamin D intake from food until spring arrives, and sunbathing can resume. You don’t have to be freaky about it. Weston A. Price said specifically too, for those that may recall, that native diets contained ten times the vitamin D of the average American diet at that time. That was before we had the wondrous invention of Kellogg’s breakfast cereals fortified with vitamin D, drowned in vitamin D-fortified milk, and D-fortified Flintstones viteys washed down with D-fortified orange juice. Today we still, even with that lengthy list, take in a couple hundred IU’s of Vitamin D per day per capita at most. Back then, who knows. Maybe getting 1,000 or even just 500IU per day was 10 times the typical amount.
But before you reach for the cod liver oil, try real, whole food. Whole food that comes with other key essentials like B-12, selenium, and protein. I’m talking about something that nearly everyone in decent financial condition can obtain with reasonable effort ? wild-caught salmon. They sell it at CostCo for Pete’s sake ($3.50 per portion).
Here is a video and article on making the perfect crispy-skin sockeye salmon (nearly 5,000IU per pound), at 180 Kitchen. Click HERE to check it out.
Do you realize what the street value of this mountain is?
Oh man, I came so close to linking to that clip instead, as it paints a better portrait of the man that is… Charles de Marr
Buck up little camper. We'll beat that slope… together.
I've been enjoying your salmon recipe at least once a day (not unknown for us to consume two or three servings of salmon a day. My two and half year old requests it for breakfast). We order it online from http://www.marxfoods.com (my husband calls it commie salmon). It's wild Alaskan pink salmon, the lowest level of mercury and PCB anywhere (.02ppm mercury!) Anyway, your recipe for salmon is very popular at our house:) Off topic, do you have any thoughts about buckwheat (as opposed to oats, ways to fix buckwheat, etc.) 100% buckwheat bread that doesn't taste like a briquette? Any thoughts?
To the person(s) wanting to know about the raw milk diet: I think it healed my borderline adrenal exhaustion (I tested right at the edge, with a host of mineral deficiencies and hypoglycemia pre-milk diet). I gained huge amounts of weight and looked 6 months pregnant (heavily pregnant). That part was demoralizing but my mood felt great otherwise. I also felt emotionally calm yet very tired. I can see why bed rest was required. In hindsight I wish I had used kefir instead of raw milk, or been diligent about only using grass-fed cow milk. Overall I'm glad I did it. The milk tasted extremely sweet to me, and the ease of having only one thing to drink was nice. The weight was very, very slow coming off for me. That put me into a mild panic. Really curious about other people's experiences!
Glad to hear you gained weight. That's what I'm looking to do, but I fear that I'm losing too many calories to running in the cold for 8 hours at work.
What do you think about urine therapy? A lot of the suposed benefits match up pretty closely with some of Ray Peat's hormone experiments/claims–specifically uric acid and dhea.
Bear in mind Price was born 1870 so 56yrs old when Vitamin D was being discovered.
History of vitamin D research
It wasn't until he was 61 (1931) that Vitamin D synthesis in skin was reported. It isn't surprising he concentrated mainly on dietary sources of Vitamin D3.
Don't forget
Fructose, HFCS inhibits Intestinal Calcium Absorption and Induces Vitamin D Insufficiency
While UVB is required for Vit D production UVA further processes D3 into suprasterols the body doesn't use.
Standard advice to lay naked in the sun for 20mins then apply sunscreen thus accelerates D3 depletion as many sunscreens work by moving UVB into the UVA spectrum enabling the faster processing of newly made D3 into suprasterols.
Glass blocks UVB not UVA.
Lay in the sun make vitamin D.
Go indoors, sit by a window, in the conservatory, under a fluorescent light and the UVA through the glass, from the tube, destroys that newly made Vit D3.
Thanks Ted, great input. I'm all about full sun with no sunscreen believe me. Haven't used it in over 5 years now, and I consider myself to be a semi-professional sunbather. That vitamin HFCS sounds like good stuff. Good thing everything is fortified with it (fructofied?!).
Thanks for the milk diet input Ingrid. I've gotten particularly interested in it myself lately, and I agree that adrenal health restoration could be one of its primary means of healing. Hope the weight gain turns out to be of the healing variety.
Good stuff, Matt. I was always curious about just where in the heck a person could get optimal amounts of Vitamin D from food without having to choke down cod liver oil!
Re That vitamin HFCS sounds like good stuff. Good thing everything is fortified with it (fructofied?!).
Just read this free full text paper and you too can enjoy a few of the benefits.
Consuming fructose-sweetened, not glucose-sweetened, beverages increases visceral adiposity and lipids and decreases insulin sensitivity in overweight/obese humans
Consumption of fructose-sweetened but not glucose-sweetened beverages for 10 weeks increased de novo lipogenesis, promoted dyslipidemia, decreased insulin sensitivity, and increased visceral adiposity in overweight/obese adults.
Now who would have thought that?
Couldn't possibly have anything to do with Diabetes Type 2? Could it?
Hi Matt,
I agree, Price's statement has been misinterpreted. Most of those groups weren't eating a lot of vitamin D, but when compared to what rickets-infested America was eating at the time, it was easily 10 times more for some groups. There were exceptions in both directions– the Inuit and Scottish groups were probably getting a fair amount of D from fish livers and oils. But some grain-based African groups like the near-veg Bantu probably got very little vitamin D in the diet.
This is off-topic but I didn't know where to ask it. I have been trying out the no-refined flour, no refined-sugar, no PUFA diet for a couple weeks now (actually the first week and half I was doing Zero-carb and had nearly-disastrous results). Anyway,I was wondering if, for an occasional treat, I would be better off making a dessert with straight powdered glucose rather than honey or something else with fructose.
I think glucose beats fructose to the ground anytime. Only problem is if you are insulin resistant, or if you consume too much, cuz it wll rob your body of nutrients (a la white rice… grrr).
Rice lover
'Half and half contains no additives, is not homogenized, and contains far less denatured casein and lactose – the big culprits of dairy problems.'
Are you talking about normal grocery store, nothing-special milk?? I suspected it might not, i was searching google the other night to see whether Dairyland homogenized all its products. i made whipping cream last night and it didn't cause the slighting irritation in my throat.
I sometimes get access to grassfed, extra-unpolluted cow milk from a ranch on a mountain, fed by a stream. Its good stuff. But, exactly how much does the animal's diet affect the product? Like, other than being obviously lower in nutrients, will the 'soy devil' still come to get me if i drink un-homogenised store milk? Same with eggs? I really want to know. I really think that fertile eggs makes all the difference between tolerating and not tolerating eggs. Just like raw milkpp and pasteurised, homo milk.But I had an argument with a 'health nut' the other day and he said there's no way fertile and unfertile makes a difference. He said the feed makes the difference. Can I have some support on this one? I've never actually found any written evidence supporting fertile eggs. If a chicken eats peanuts and one of those highly-allergic-to-nuts people eats the eggs of the meat, wtf will happen??
Irene: about going on to a high fat diet from low fat: I made that change a couple of months ago. I had seriously never eaten much red meat ever because it always gave me abdominal pain. I used to eat a high-fat diet by instinct when I was a child (fries..back then some restaurants actually used lard for deepfrying.., and summer sausage was my fav.) But in my adult life I was mostly veg, and I ate chicken or fish on occasion by necessity. Long story short, now I eat mostly beef and beef fat with NO trouble whatsoever. However, if I have carbs in my system (I'm also low-carbing.. i'm kind of desperate) I will get stomach pain upon eating beef. Again, I'm only a couple months into the diet and I yoyo'd a few times. I do think I've transitioned. The other day I ate half a loaf of bread because i couldn't help myself, and I crapped it out a little too fast.
Also, about this milk diet thing. I think it was Ingridknits who mentioned somewhere about the milk diet made her gain lots of weight. but Matt, you said it didn't. What's the story? I'm starting to think some of these diets have way different effects on people whether they have a healthy working system or if their body still has major healing to do.
And like i said, despite all the carb-ness that is going on in this site, I am deciding to maintain my mostly-cow diet for a while. For one thing, its winter so I'm too cheap to buy vegetables. For another thing, the beef and fat is readily available to me. And I want as little variety in my diet as possible because i'm sick of thinking about eating.
Thanks Stephan. I hope we don't have to get 4,000IU from our diets every day to be healthy.
April –
If your desserts are truly occasional, what you use to sweeten your foods doesn't really matter all that much. I like creamy desserts or desserts with coconut milk because they need very little sweetener to have a dessert taste. As for sweeteners, fresh berries and raw honey would be my top picks. I do make candied pecans at home once a month or so using honey. But don't sweat it. If you eat dessert once a month, have whatever sweetener you want and lots of it. In the meantime, focus on eating and living in ways that minimizes your desire for sweetness in foods. If you have cravings, don't fight them.
M-
What an animal is fed is important. One could probably come up with a list of 100 items of importance when it comes to health, but I usually end that list around 5 – because it fuels neurosis. Just eating a diet with no refined sugar or vegetable oils is a very tall order in today's world, but is so much more important than what a chicken is fed to produce eggs that it is pointless to even discuss a chicken's diet. That can be your tangent if you like, and I would agree that whether eggs or fertile or not does make a big difference, but not big enough to make the top 180 headlines. This is not Mercola, imprisoning people into thinking that danger lurks around every corner. Even Mercola himself has a classic metabolic syndrome body as was revealed in his recent workout videos that he published. His body is like a tater tot with 4 toothpicks sticking out of it. So much for obsessing over grassfed beef.
I'm sorry, but if you can't eat beef and carbs together, then you are unhealthy and your digestion sucks. Eat nothing but beef if you want, but that's not going to help you fix that problem any more than not driving your car will help to fix its engines or oil leak.
I did not say that the milk diet is not fattening. All milk diet authors said that it caused dramatic weight gain except in the significantly overweight, in which it caused dramatic weight loss. But adding body fat is not unhealthy. So yes, of course diets effect everyone differently, but a healthy and nourishing well-balanced diet is the most likely diet to return someone to better health, with or without weight loss.
Ted –
Fructose have something to do with type 2 diabetes??? Say it ain't so!!! I thought it was saturated fat!
My estimated saturated fat consumption per year for the last 3 years…
80 pounds/900 calories per day
My estimated fructose consumption per year for the last 3 years…
6 pounds/30 calories per day
Fasting glucose… 70 mg/dl
Okay.
I guess the honest approach I was trying to take was that I would go on a beef-fast until I had no more fat reserves, then I would resume normal healthy eating. Your driving car analogy really burns and this whole food thing is really pissing me off in general. I really don't know what to do. Seriously, every couple of weeks I talk myself into mixing the carbs in but its always a total, total disaster. I get mental problems. I sleep 16 hours a day. I'm sore.
You see, I have this fantasy idea that came from when I was a teenager and my health was very bad from eating food. so I starved myself and resumed normal high-calorie eating and all my issues went away. Now, whether or not that's stupid its all I've been able to hang on to because I feel like I need to get to 0 and start over.
On the other hand, the fact that I am able to eat beef proves to me that I do not have a certain ./inherited diet type and that my digestive tract can get used to anything if it has to.
Do you agree that a consistent diet is better or worse than a diet of variety?
I understand M –
For example, eating low-carb made me feel worse when I ate carbs, until I buried myself into a hole that I couldn't get out of.
But I was able to blast through it and now have better health on a mixed diet than any mono diet I've ever done. I'm getting stronger every day from all aspects, not weaker. It is an empowering feeling.
Granted, your situation is much more difficult and extreme.
But I do know that you won't be fully liberated until you can eat a regular mixed diet and have great health doing so. In order to do that, you really have to psyche yourself up for it and be resilient in the face of your initial struggles.
At least, that's my gut feeling.
Start more slowly if you have to, but focus on building strength and overcoming your challenges, not identifying them and avoiding them. That's what I would hope for you to achieve and experience that is. Whether it is possible or not is up to you to attempt and decide. We certainly wish you luck. Sounds like you've had some serious dietary restrictions and a hard time with food your whole life, and I truly hope that any insights you get from 180 will someday lead to you finally being free.
Let us know how it goes.
I agree that a consistent diet is easier to do and digest than a diet of varity. I don't agree that ease and consistency are better. Challenge and variety are two things that I think give the human body maximal development and progress.
Good luck M. Keep us posted. If some of the ideas floating around here can get you out of dietary prison, they can get anyone out of dietary prison, so I'm very interested in how you do over time. Please do us a favor and report back from time to time.
Ok I have a question. Were you on a very low carb diet before the high everything diet? how long were you doing it for? and what was the 'rock-bottom' you are referring to… low metabolism, low weight, low energy, what was it?
And yes, it is a dietary prison, although animal products seem way less limiting because i can eat large quantities without ever gaining sensitivity to them so it seems.
i am trying my hardest to make sensible decisions.
I don't think you could call it a rock bottom by any means. I was on a pretty low carb diet (100 grams per day give or take) for about 2 years. Then I cut it to 50-75 per day for a few months, then I went zero carb for 1 month and maintained a pretty low carb diet (less than 100g) for an additional 5 months.
Symptoms mirrored the opposite of initial improvements on a low-carb diet…
Gas, constipation, poorer skin health, emotionality – particularly being grouchy, tooth pain, bad breath, foul body odor, dark circles under eyes, low energy and endurance, acid ingigestion, sugar cravings, etc.
Zero carb did help with indigestion and tooth pain, but that's all.
The only "problem" I have now is gaining 10 pounds, but most of that is in reponse to overexcercising over the summer and doing a 2 week vegan diet. I'm no longer gaining and will slowly lose over the next several months until I'm fully recovered.
(and you thought baseball WITH a pitcher was boring!).
RAWR! HIGHlarious, Matt. But I thought you were a ball playa?
Also this salmon recipe is uncanny as I've been having total salmon cravings this past week. Funny how that managed to synch up perfectly with lack of sunshine here in MinneSNOWda.
I WAS a ball playa, and at one point could have given a dissertation on Kirby Puckett, but…
My experiences with the sport are akin to Chris Cooper's character in the movie "Adaptation." He collected tropical fish for a living and then one day he was over it.
"I never so much as set a toe in that ocean ever since… That's how much fuck fish."
If you get cold in MinneSNOWda, Jesse Ventura and Prince will be able to keep you warm I'm sure.
Okay, I misquoted it, but you get the idea…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y410SQD2mz8
M-
Diana Schwarzbein confirms that healing feels like crap for a while. All that sleep and soreness means you've finally given your body why it needs to heal, and so you've gone into "full speed healing mode". That's a good thing. You've got to get through that stage to make progress, not give up. Matt can vouch that I know what I'm talking about on this one.
Check out Diana's book "The Program"; it's really a Cliff Notes instruction manual on 180 living.
-Brock
Thanks Brock. You can see clearly in M's case that eating a mixed diet thrusts her adrenal glands into instant "restoration mode."
The ultimate healing program for her would most likely be something like HED or the milk diet with complete bed rest.
But when you eat well and your adrenals take a vacation, it feels horrible. That's just the physiology of rest. It is hard on the psyche as well, causing tremendous physical pain as downregulated hormone receptors take up so little beta endorphin, norepinehprine (brain fog), and so on. It's withdrawal symptoms from your own, previously elevated stimulatory hormones.
M's history of anorexia and extreme dieting and exercise, including zero-carb, is precisely what leads her to feel horrible following a diet that makes us feel amazing (but it took us time too).
She'll get there if she can get through the intro, but it'll be a bitch.
Good advice on "The Program." although it ain't perfect, it's in the right ballpark and is geared toward the right objective.
Would the milk diet work with SIBO?
Again, my experience with the milk diet is purely theoretical and anecdotal, but I could certainly envision HOW it might work.
The milk diet decreases stress hormones, raises the metabolism, improves circulation and body temperature, which in turn helps to eliminate bacterial overgrowth. There's no question that the milk diet seems to afford the patient with maximal immune system capabilities.
At the same time the milk, rich in lactobacillus while also creating the perfect breeding ground for lactobacillus with the sheer quantity of lactose passing through the digestive tract, should completely alter the bacterial flora of the digestive tract. If taken in a manner as recommended to insure maximal and complete assimilation, this further removes a potential undigested food source for bacteria that has overgrown the small intestine. It also removes what I consider to be the primary food sources for SI bacteria, fructose and fiber.
Hey Matt, question for you: What does it mean when burping ensues after a meal? Some meals cause me to have some burps (not tons by any means) for a bit after the meal, and sometimes they feel hot. That means there is an issue with my digestion, but what is it? Otherwise I seem to be digesting pretty well other than some gas on occasions.
Also, how many members do you have now? Im wondering how big our 180Degree Family (thats a great name for a family psychology book. You ever plan on going into psychology? haha) is.
-Drew
A little burping is to be expected after a good meal. I don't think it's a sign of poor digestion unless it's really chronic and severe. Same goes for a fart here and there. Gases are naturally produced by the digestion process, and they need to come out some time, hence the great invention of burping and farting, which are both relieving and funny at any age. I still don't think there's a comedian on earth that can compete with the fart.
The highly dysfunctional 180 familly is by no means huge. In relative terms, it's not a family with an only child, but more like a brother and sister and one small pet – like a Guinea pig. Mercola is like a Colorado City polygamist mormon family. I hope 180 becomes more like a polygamist mormon patriarchal family someday. It is growing pretty fast though, 10-20% per month. Hoping for 10,000 members by the end of next year. Maybe 25k a year later. Then 50, 100, who knowns. By that time I'll have some hard copy books, money to promote the site(s) better, and be more interwoven into the big health debate – not just a blogneedle in a bloghaystack.
I so agree with your thoughts on Mercola and his paranoia inducing websites! I can't read his stuff or I practically have a panic attack;)
I'm interested in learning more about the milk diet. I recently startred dring almost a quart of raw milk a day (not on purpose, I just started craving it) and I've been feeling good. For awhile I couldnt drink much cause it made me cough but not so now.
"I still don't think there's a comedian on earth that can compete with the fart."
Reminds me of growing up with my two brothers. Guaranteed laughs.
Good call.
Scott
Hey Matt, don't see you touch mental disease very often. It's quite the epidemic, and it is certainly the worst of the worst in the scale of pain and life screwing, I believe. This kid… Jose, one example. I know it's complicated ground… My uncle was a good man, till he went crazy, and we all just, well, cried and let him go. It hurts me as hell now, that I have read so much and know of a ton of ways to posibly help him, like b12 or thyroid. Hes dead, suffered like unimaginably, I think. Could something like the milk diet cure mental disease? Kid said goat's milk is too low in b12, what about that. If you raise the metabolism, can the body sort out those things without the need of megadoses? The books are old anyway. New problems new solutions, but which?
Anonymous –
I believe most cases of mental illness are caused by glucose dysregulation. This is particularly true of aggressive and depressive forms of mental illness. Read E.M. Abrahamson's Body, Mind, and Sugar, one of my favorites. Here's are most of my quotes from it…
?Persons who at last were found to be suffering from hyperinsulinism have been treated for coronary thrombosis and other heart ailments, brain tumor, epilepsy, gall bladder disease, appendicitis, hysteria, and every sort of neurosis. They have been told repeatedly that their trouble is ?all in the mind? and sent to the psychoanalyst.
p. 60
?There is no glamorous cure for hyperinsulinism that can be bought in a package. Its diagnosis and treatment demand pains from the physician and sacrifices from the patient, who must give up candy, sugar, pies, alcohol, coffee, and sometimes smoking.
p. 65
?As [Dr. Seale Harris] pointed out, overindulgence in caffeine is a common cause for [hyperinsulinism]. Harris conducted his research in Birmingham, Alabama, the heart of the South, where various beverages consisting of sweetened and flavored water ‘spiked? with caffeine are water substitutes. Hyperinsulinism may be induced in persons predisposed to the condition by the very combination of caffeine and sugar found in these beverages.
p. 67
?This means no sugar, candy, or other sweets, no cake with icing, no pies or other pastry, no ice cream, no honey, no syrup, no grape juice or prune juice. And regrettably, our string of ?no’s? includes cocktails, wines, cordials, and beer. Finally, if you have hyperinsulinism, you must avoid caffeine as you would the pest.
p. 98
?Americans are the largest consumers of coffee in the world. Not content with that excessive use of caffeine in the fine aromatic and ancient faffa of Abyssinia, we have concocted and popularized by stupendous high pressure advertising a host of soft drinks previously unknown to the civilized world. These sugar-laden and caffeine-containing carbonated beverages are imbibed by adult, teen-ager, and even children in an ever-increasing and staggering volume.
Abrahamson continued…
p. 102
?patients who?complained of all sorts of depressions, phobias, compulsions ? in brief, the psychic complaints ? were then subjected to the same investigation by means of the six-hour Glucose Tolerance Test. The results were amazing. Most of these patients actually had a mild hyperinsulinism. It was so mild that it could be discovered only by chemical test. The correction through proper diet of this purely metabolic condition alleviated the psychic symptoms of the persons in this group just as effectively as it had improved the condition of those who also had physical symptoms of hyperinsulinism. In other words, the psychic and somatic disturbances were the treble and bass of the same discord.
p. 109
?In EVERY case in which the Glucose Tolerance Test has shown that hyperinsulinism was present ? and these were more than 90 per cent of the total number ? the patient lost his purely psychic symptoms within ten days of initiating the treatment. But another month or more is required to make the treatment stick. Several patients have learned by bitter experience that they must never take caffeine in any form. In fact, caffeine is so much of a causative factor in this kind of depression that the condition might be regarded as a form of caffeine poisoning. The reputed and widely accepted harmlessness of caffeine must be thoroughly reinvestigated in the light of this new knowledge.
p. 156
?The young man’s drinking was due to the let-down feelings induced by his drops in blood sugar. No amount of scolding or pleading could possibly influence him to stop. Only when the dips in blood sugar were eliminated was he able to resist the urge.
p. 194
?While the usual therapy for the so-called psychosomatic diseases is sometimes effective, we believe that the steadily increasing incidence of these ailments is patent proof of the insufficiency of such treatment. We refuse to believe that Americans are becoming a people who ?can’t take it. We prefer to believe that they are a people who have been beguiled by a good deal of high pressure advertising into bad dietary habits and by an incredible lot of nonsense posing as science into bad living and thinking habits.
Kate –
Very curious about the milk diet as well.
When I've personally consumed a lot of raw milk it didn't go over all that well. I was fine, but felt it was an overall net negative.
I think much of this has to do with chugging it (making it digest more poorly)
Drinking it ice cold (poorer digestion once again)
Consuming it with lots of other foods
And consuming it with too much protein.
Most milk drinking cultures did not mix big portions of meat with huge glasses of milk, and it's doubtful that much milk was consumed at less than 40 degrees F. Most milk drinking societies were largely vegetarian, eating meat only once per week.
Anyway, something to think about. I would personally drink it alone as sort of a snack and hydrator between meals or drink it with a meal of starch and vegetables.
Then again, my digestion is much better now than it was then, and my secret has been to say "the hell with digestive ease, just throw it all down the hatch."
Maybe disregard that last comment. Just pound that milk Kate. Love it. Improve your digestive abilities by chugging it ice cold in huge amounts with a big meal!
Matt, That's interesting, i do drink the milk alone.I don't like it along with other foods, I'm using it more like water it seems.
I haven't had any digestion problems yet…….
I still have occasional sugar cravings. Not huge, but there.
What's your take on that? Meals not balanced? Not enough to eat?
I also quit drinking coffee, but two months later I still want it. What's the deal with that?
Anybody else have this experience?
Kate –
I think most of those cravings stem from lack of overall nourishment and/or overexercise.
I've cut out sugar many times and wanted it more and more and more every day until I binged when I wasn't making sure to eat plenty of food at even intervals while avoiding overexerting myself. Getting plenty of sleep is a strong factor to. I lump caffeine and sugar in the same ballpark together.
That's what I would suspect at least. But some people report the opposite. By stimulating beta endorphin naturally through exercise they get their fix without having to resort to the substances themselves. To me this doesn't address the root of the problem though. Anyway, that's my 2 cents.
I don't think I'm overexercising, So my guess would be lack of nourishment. Sometimes I forget to eat because I get busy with my six-month old.
How much exercise is over exercise in your book?
Kate,
I've also noticed a few sugar cravings recently (last ~20 days), and I even gave in once or twice (to bad results, digestively). This is odd for me as I went nearly a year without any sugar nor any desire for sugar. I think the root cause for me was lack of sleep. I have a 3-month old, so enough said as to the causes of THAT. This in turn caused me to up-tick caffeine consumption at work starting about 2 months ago, and sugar a month after that.
Needless to say, I've fallen back into stimulant use that I need to get control of. What I find scientifically interesting though is how the need for stimulants isn't limited to one stimulant (caffein or sugar), but goes to both.
-Brock
P.S. – What milk diet are we talking about? Is this a liquid diet (no food), or just milk as the only beverage?
Anecdotal Data – I love my raw milk (and as a English-Dutch-German I'm well evolved to digest it), and I find my appetite for protein dives when I have it in quantity, but appetite for starch, veggies and fat remains high.
A more appropriate reply would have been lack of nourishement/and or stress. Stress takes many forms though. Lack of sleep, calorie restriction, overexercise (I have a generally negative response to too large of a quantity or too high of an intensity – both are stresses), and so on.
If you crave sugar, I wouldn't fight it, but opt for natural sources over cookies, cake, and brownies. That's a good rule of thumb for the most part. Unless, of course, you start getting crazy with it.
I lump caffeine, sugar, and alcohol all together in one. Any can be substituted for the other, and each makes you want the other more. They all operate by similar neurotransmitter pathways.
And lack of sleep will create cravings as well or better than anything else.
The milk diet refers to a milk-only diet used by early 20th century physicians and health advisors to assist with many forms of disease. It shows a lot of promise. It's like HED on steroids.
As a very interesting note on the topic of Vitamin D, it could just be that low vitamin D levels are a sign and symptom of disease and not a cause. This site is very compelling, especially as I have continually gravitated towards there being an infectious component to every major degenerative disease, including the cancers in which vitamin D supposedly protects against:
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