July 12, 2013 at 12:18 pm #8555cookinParticipant
What are thoughts on Cold Thermogenesis. I’m guessing it goes against raising your metabolism, but damn I feel SOOOO GOOD after swimming in an ice river or jumping in the ocean. The best I have ever felt in my life was when all I had to bathe in was an ice cold river for 3 months.
Anyone have thoughts on whether it is beneficial or detrimental?July 12, 2013 at 12:23 pm #8556
Matt wrote about it in a recent post here: http://180degreehealth.com/2013/04/hot-water-vs-cold-water-thermogenesisJuly 12, 2013 at 1:58 pm #8580ThomasSeayModerator
@cooking, if you felt good doing it, then what are YOUR THOUGHTS?
I can’t say what the effect is over a long period of time. However, when I have done this, leap into a cold body of water, I feel so alive afterwards.July 12, 2013 at 2:29 pm #8582
I did the polar bear plunge on new years day this year in NYC, and it was great. I don’t do it all the time, and I’m not sure what the long term metabolic effects are, and I do think it can be fetishized a bit, but I do enjoy it from time to time.July 13, 2013 at 3:36 pm #8780The Real AmyModerator
Cookin, if it feels so good for you, maybe that’s the most important thing to listen to. The problem is likelyt when people push past feeling awful because they think cold thermogenesis will make them lose weight. A diet book came out last year full of metabolism-destroying “tips” and taking an ice bath was one of them. I can think of nothing less pleasant than being in cold water, and it would definitely increase my stress hormones, but if it’s a real pleasure for you, it is probably stress-reducing, and why deprive yourself?July 16, 2013 at 1:26 pm #9157RenaeParticipant
All I know is, it’s 90 degrees+ and humid in MN right now, and I still couldn’t get myself to take a cold shower after walking my dog last night. If you like it, I say go for it, but that is my idea of torture.July 20, 2013 at 12:51 pm #9597
99? here in NYC yesterday. Multiple cold showers yesterday and everyday. Then I get out into my AC-less room, and I immediately start sweating more. Summer time, yo. OyyJuly 23, 2013 at 2:08 am #9816
If you enjoy jumping in cold water, I think that’s a sign you’re in robust health. Weak, fatigued, and ill people don’t generally get any pleasure out of that kind of thing.
No doubt the cold is a stress, but stress can be healthy as long as you’re healthy and you don’t push it too far. For sick people, cold showers and the polar bear swim seem like a really bad idea.April 26, 2014 at 2:23 pm #16237napster4everParticipant
David, I think that’s a real bad idea for low T3 people wrecked by VLCing with cold hands and low body temperature. I mean, I know this one woman who started following Kruse, was doing CT religiously everyday, did leptin reset, got herself into a ketogenic state. Not only did she become euthryoid with T3 in the bottom quadrant, she developed systemic scleroderma. She probably was genetically vulnerable. I told her to stop but she wouldn’t. Why?
She was seduced by weight loss and her own perception that: weight loss = health. What she engineered was really starvation. She now has a serious form of esophageal dysmotility, which is a symptom of scleroderma; she can’t swallow food, has ice cold hands and skin tightens around her hands and face, she’s beginning to look like Jim Carrey’s sister in Mask.April 26, 2014 at 8:31 pm #16239
Huh? Are you replying to someone else’s post?April 26, 2014 at 9:03 pm #16240napster4everParticipant
Sorry, David, I was just referring to CT. Yes, I think it’s hormetic to some degree and you could reap some small benefit from it if your metabolism is healthy. However, it is not some key to “quantum biology,” as Kruse calls it and can be harmful when you’re hormonally wrecked to begin with.
You mix a little medical jargon with gibberish and these poor, gullible people will believe anything.April 26, 2014 at 9:19 pm #16241
NP. It sounds like we agree.
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