January 29, 2014 at 8:54 pm #14831godschildParticipant
Does weight gain stop once you hit a consistent 98.6+ throughout the day? Or is it dependent on each person? Will eating a surplus of calories like 5000 fix your metabolism faster than 3000 and cause less weight gain? Or can you only heal so fast that the 5000 would cause more weight gain?
I know that everyone is different and you can’t know for sure, but can anyone answer any of these questions?February 2, 2014 at 5:47 pm #14899mmmfoodParticipant
I wonder these same things. I was reading on Youreatopia the other day and Gwyn, the author of the site, I think is saying that the more you eat, the faster the process will go. That’s what I got out of it. I’ve been eating upwards of 4500 calories a day recently and I’ve been doing good. It’s hard to do though.
Here’s that article I mentioned on youreatopia
“The less you eat, the longer it takes to recover as the harder it is for your body to find any excess energy to repair the damage.”
Again, seems like she is saying more calories will heal you fasterFebruary 25, 2014 at 1:37 pm #15366annkullbergParticipant
I can’t seem to figure out how to start a new post, so I’ll ask my question here, since it seems a good place for it. I’m on day 3 of following Matt’s ideas. Having a hard time eating a lot…but maybe because I’m terrified of gaining loads of weight (already 80 lbs overweight) because of this question I have that keeps bothering me. If eating too much is “healing”, than why do the 600 lb people on My 600lb life not heal? They are eating pizza and chips and tons of calories, but they just keep gaining and gaining. They don’t seem to reach a set point at all? It makes me very, very nervous.
Has Matt addressed this anywhere?February 25, 2014 at 7:30 pm #15377ChristinamParticipant
I asked Matt the other day why there are fat people like Honey Boo Boo type families. They don’t seem to ever starve themselves. He said that people are born with certain genetic issues and they also probably eat lots of PUFAs which suppresses the metabolism. It’s true that they eat lots of packaged foods like potato chips that are fried in vegetable oil etc.
I wish there was more proof of this! It seems scary to go in the direction of an endless weight gain.February 25, 2014 at 8:53 pm #15382BrittneyParticipant
I can relate to your experience. It has been a little over a month since I became intentional about eating for heat. When I started, I was within my healthy weight range and a month in I still am (I think… I hope- I’ve not wanted to step on a scale), but I’m outside of my comfortable weight range. Initially I had to eat more calories to boost my temperature than I do now. Currently, I eat to appetite and make sure that every meal/snack I eat has some warming components. It’s not necessary for me to eat, let’s say, 600 calories of ice cream when I only need 200 calories’ worth to feel warm. And, I think it’s better to eat a smaller amount of calories if they’re very warming than a larger amount that doesn’t warm you up as much. I actually don’t count calories, though. Please don’t misunderstand me- I’m not recommending to cut calories down to the minimal, just that I don’t think you need to eat more than your body is craving. Matt did make a comment in DR2 that if your temps are low, you should make yourself eat even if you don’t feel hungry. (I don’t know what your situation is- is that how you’re feeling?) Experiment around and find what your body best responds to to warm up. And it’s REALLY helpful to cut the fluid intake.
I don’t know if any of this addresses your question(s), but I hope you can take away that I understand your concern and I think it’s good to be wary, like you are being. It’s probably going to take some time to reach homeostasis :/ I don’t like feeling thick and…blah about my weight, but I do like that I’m sleeping well, my mind is clear, my body is warm, and my pee is yeller :) Hang in there, when I was three days in I was not experiencing any of those things yet either.February 25, 2014 at 11:57 pm #15385ChristinamParticipant
I’m wondering if having smaller portions 5x per day but dense foods and less liquids would do the trick. To me, it seems, that large meals are, what makes me feel lethargic and gain weight.February 26, 2014 at 1:57 am #15398Aimee88Participant
Yes, I was thinking along the lines of what Brittney has said. It’s not just eating more, but eating strategically. It’s certainly not restrictive, but like Matt says, if you eat 2000 of watermelon, you won’t be raising your metabolism at all. I would say, people who are really, really overweight have really low metabolism and probably other contributing factors, including emotional and maybe other medical. I know I’m not thrilled to be gaining more weight, but I was aimlessly gaining weight back for the last few years. This feels different. My body is changing already, and I’m only a month in, too. I gave up weighing (myself or food) a couple years ago, so I only know that I’ve been buying bigger clothes and the waist measurement I took a few days ago to make a skirt was well, more than I thought it would be! But, I’m trusting. And I’m feeling better. And I just started reading Healthy at Every Size. I’ve been quite a few sizes in my 43 years, and I did not feel the healthiest at the smallest size, that’s for sure. I’m also doing a self-care course that follows A Course in Miracles. I mixing science and God. For me, it works. I don’t think we are just machine-like bodies (and I know Matt doesn’t think that either, from a great article in the newsletter recently), and I know that how I see myself and others means a lot, too. I want to feel good (strong, healthy, supple). I don’t know what size that will be for me. We’ll see. Here’s to new clothes! :)
Sorry, your question was when does it stop? I think Matt has said that when your temperatures get steady. And I noticed already that my cravings have gone. I’m back to the point in my cycle where I was when I started (just before my period) and again, no cravings. I’m eating. I’m enjoying eating. But I think it’s going to be a matter of just eating to hunger soon, and that will be amazing and fun. Oh, yes, I’ve also been hungry! Because I’m not eating so mindlessly or for boredom or cravings. That seems to be clearing up on it’s own, as I give my body enough. More than enough! And good food, and fun food. I made homemade mac and cheese the other night! Wow. And it lasted me two days. I loved it, but when I had had enough, it was easy to put it aside. That, for me, is amazing!
Just think about how many people Matt has helped. We are just adding to his numbers! Proving him right!
Christinam, I just took in what you said. Have you read Eat for Heat? That feeling tired after a meal can be your body saying, wow, thanks, let’s get to work. It’s not necessarily a bad thing in recovery, I don’t think.
From EFH, “Overcompensation Effect” – “For example, if you wait a really, really long time to eat, get super outrageously hungry, and then pig out….your stress system overcompensates and shuts down completely. Your eyelids feel like they weight a thousand pounds. At least most would notice this tendency.” He talks about sleep this way, too. then…. “Anyway, the overcompensation effect factors into the hot/cold, high-stress/low-stress, body fluid concentration equation. The overcompensation effect is why I find stockpiling your foods towards what is your colder part of the day so vital.”
Is that on the right track? If not, just ignore me. :)
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