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I had a consultation with Matt a week ago. He seems like a good guy who means well. I did ask him if he has lost weight. After all there has been a lot of talk online that he is fat and shouldn’t be counseling people on what to do on a nutritional level if he hasn’t been able to get results himself. Well, he said that he has only lost 6 lbs!! How long has HE done his own program. I’m sure for more than 2 years. I know he abused his body, overexercising and dieting, but haven’t we all?! And we don’t want too stay fat indefinitely. I also don’t see many people on this forum that seem to be losing weight after the gaining phase. Is it logical to risk a fat body and the blow to self esteem if we don’t have proof of results? There are almost no pictures on the testimonial page. And I see older posts of people inquiring if there has been successes with no response! I might want to stick to dense but “healthier” foods that keep my temp. up but my weight in check since I would rather not be the one to fall on my face after trial and error with these consequences. And I understand those who will be annoyed and want to bash my post. I’m not interested in posts by those that run on faith and no logic. I want proof that is truly encouraging. Either along the lines of getting temp. up with “healthy foods” and staying relatively lean or from those losing weight after the initial gain. I see proof that people end up back on diets after eating for heat like cheese slave and a participant on here called David.
I think Matt recently said in an email he already met his health goals. I don’t think he cares anymore about weight or fat which is why he may be normal/fat depending on who you ask.
I was planning on writing up a long detailed post once I reach my own health goals so I will keep it short here. I have been eating for heat for a couple months now and health is definitely better. I am also fat now but if I could go back in time and do it again with everything I have learned I am fairly confident I could do it with a lot less weight gain if any. I have a fairly simple diet now that I have adjusted along the way after reading Danny Roddy and Andrew Kim’s blogs.
Sorry I don’t have any proof or pictures. I was skeptical initially also but the only way I was going to learn what worked for me was doing it and that stands for pretty much anything you read that is health related no matter how much research is behind it.
You say that if you went back in time you would do it again but somewhat different to avoid as much fat gain. May I ask what you would do differently?
I know that health is the focus here and in the books, but I keep holding out hope that I’ll be able to be healthy and not have to be a few sizes bigger than I already am to be so.
Weight loss is the goal, too. But healthy weight loss. After all the testimonial page is full of weight loss stories.
Blurg are going to tell what you would do differently?Sorry, I don’t have any answers – I haven’t even reached high temp nirvana. I have increased my calories, avoided industrial oils, decreased liquids and tried to get more sleep, salt, sugar, and starch but don’t know if I am willing to gain anymore poundage in order to get to the high 98’s. I am looking for ways to avoid more gain but still get the health benefits. Maybe just maintaining what I’m currently doing will eventually get me there. Doubt it though.
One thing I do advocate is doing at least some weight lifting – definitely helps in keeping all those calories being converted into fat. Without lifting weights, I’m sure all of the weight I have gained would have gone straight to my gut, thighs and knees – the places on me at least fat likes to go to.
Sorry takes me quite a while to type this stuff up sometimes.
The things I would do differently would be less “junk food”. I didn’t really have a plan when I started just calories calories and more calories. For me that meant fast food and crap in a box at the supermarket and eating way past fullness. After some more reading though these last six weeks I have a solid food plan for everyday.
Not telling everybody to eat like I do but here is a list of stuff I eat everyday :
fried eggs and potato in coco oil or butter + salt, I swallow the yolks raw
fruits mostly orange and lemon
coffee
milk
gummi bears
Bugles
Posada Steak Chimichangas
Sierra Mist soda
cane sugar – I could add this to pretty much everything If I felt like it but mostly the coffee milk and making lemon sugar water
baking soda – I add a bit to drinks 1-2 times a day
cacao powder – dump some in my coffee everyday
occasionally rice and w/e meat
I still eat fast food usually pizza or cheap Del Taco tacos 2-3 times a weekSo my diet is Matt Stone/Danny Roddy/Andrew Kim inspired. I think I would have been fine eating like this from day 1 and less fat. I don’t blame Matt for being fat though, just my initial interpretation from reading his books was I need more calories and sugar after being on a paleo type diet. I definitely needed that experience to figure things out.
So there, that took way to long to type and I think I made some kind of point
I actually confused blurg with pod there. that’s why I asked blurg what he did differently. sorry about the confusion.
Pod, that’s quite the diet (; I don’t know what I was expecting. Maybe advise like less fat or no packaged foods or something. Thank you for taking the time to write all that down. I like your advise reg. weight lifting. Thankfully exercise doesn’t seem to lower my temperature so I continue to work out. I cannot imagine not being physically active.blurg here – I’m not a he but a she. Ever since I’ve had kids, fat likes to go to my belly and lifting weights has been good in offsetting that somewhat. It is more efficient than aerobic exercising in keeping the body fat percentage down, at least for me.
I do find this video somewhat consoling in my battle of the belly bulge. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8JuJHGeuaf4
I forgot I also eat cheese. The idea behind my diet is I do not want to spend much time in the kitchen and getting all the nutrients that stimulant my metabolism
I picked up this nugget of nummyness from a paleo blog:
honey + coconut oil + cocoa powder + cinnamon and a pinch of cayanne
I warmed everything up a little in a water bath to get things to mix well.
I can eat this straight by the spoonful. Any time I feel cold, one spoonful will wake up all my systems and get me warm again.
It’s Awesome in coffee, too – makes it a Mexican mocha. YUM.
I’d be cautious of the cayenne and cocoa. It speeds up my metabolism but makes it worse in the long run. Years ago I used a lot of it and my adrenals suffered the repercussions. I felt high on it and it sped up my digestion. Sadly, at a cost. Matt also mentions somewhere in his book that cayenne, hot tea and exercise create a fake sense of heat that isn’t truly representative of the metabolic state.
Interesting!
I wonder if that’s why I’ve stopped craving it as much…
There’s only a pinch of cayenne to add some heat flavor, but it has a LOT of cocoa in it.
I would Skype Matt the question but he’s been very gracious answering them and I think I overstayed my welcome when I pressed him for more testimonials on weight gain and loss and expressed my lack of faith reg. weight gain. He hasn’t responded and I’ll leave him be until my follow up consultation. Would be interesting to find out what his take is on this.
I know that I’ve come a long way in healing my adrenals and I have read that all stimulants can be trouble esp. with those who have high cortisol levels and adrenal fatigue. Having coffee, cocoa, cayenne act like a whip on a dying horse. You squeeze out the last juice before you drop. High cortisol interestingly also leads to weight gain esp. around the middle. Since Matt points out that stress suppresses the metabolism, I wonder if he would warn against stimulants like these.
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