January 4, 2014 at 5:12 pm #14494
@Fon2d2, a few anecdotal examples of individuals I’d guess that have higher CO2 levels: singers, swimmers and those that train in high altitudes. Maybe I’m seeing what I want to see, but singers (in spite of maybe crappy lifestyles) and swimmers typically seem quite attractive – great skin and hair. And we know about the performance of those that train in high altitudes.
January 4, 2014 at 6:58 pm #14497DutchieParticipant
- This reply was modified 9 years, 11 months ago by Scott_Schlegel.
@Scott_Schlegel So you’re also European and around my age.:) Isn’t it hard in Norway to find good affordable fruit?
I actually haven’t had carrot in a while anymore,bc my body is rejecting even the tiniest amounts,such as the tiny amount in ripe mango though I love it, of starch it seems(by trying to listen to intuition)…..so,this also counteracts the theory of increased metabolism means being able to eat more. Sure I can eat starchy things,but my metabolism&immunity immediately plummet and my tongue turns black nowadays which is something that never happened before….I’m like a walking iodine test!,not to speak about my mood and bowelmovements.
Alas there’s no PM option on this forum,so would it be ok to mail you sometime?
@Matt Is the woman in the picture perhaps a professional athlete,bc that’s the only type of woman I can think of consuming such amounts daily.January 4, 2014 at 8:07 pm #14498brainacidParticipant
@Scott_Schlegel Hey im 29 and my ancestors are from Spain and the Caribbean. I wanted to know if you felt a difference between consuming fruit (fructose) over starch (tubers)? You did mention you have less gas. Do you train with weights? Im trying to get into contest prep condition (3-5% body fat). Do you think that a low-calorie fuctose-based approach would give me an edge over my competitors? In the bodybulding culture they only believe in starches (rice, potatos, yams) and think fruit will make them fat and insulin resistant.
I already started drinking juice and keeping calories in deficit. I am adding salt to each drink. Also know that Im poor so I cant afford to buy fresh fruit and I can only get fruit juices from concentrate. I also thought of getting canned fruit but I dont know if they have HFCS which I read has starch. Being on a budget sucks. I will like your feedback. Thanks.January 5, 2014 at 9:13 am #14509jlharrison1234Participant
The chili recipe is seriously one of the best chili’s ever. I made a few modifications based on what I had available- I didn’t have an onion so I used a little onion powder, instead of the molasses and balsamic I added a bottle of double stout at the beginning and I added a little cumin. I also used 3 different cans of beans (kidney, pinto and black) that I soaked for about 8 hours with a few tablespoons of cider vinegar (I have read this is supposed to help with digestion of the beans but I have not confirmed that yet). Anyway- thanks for the super easy and fab recipe!January 5, 2014 at 3:13 pm #14519Fon2d2Participant
@Scott_Schlegel, What I’m gathering from this is that oxidative metabolism is preferable to anaerobic metabolism. Production of CO2 as a by-product, as opposed to lactate, is beneficial to the organism and anti-stressor. So it’s not about just increasing the ability to use O2, it’s about reducing stressors and creating a lifestyle that supports the health and hormonal environment overall.January 5, 2014 at 10:10 pm #14528
@brainacid, I don’t feel confident in my ability to tell you how to get into competition shape. I do lift (mainly legs and abs), but never tried to do a competition. Fruit typically contains varying amounts of fructose, glucose and sucrose, not just fructose (http://nutritiondata.self.com/facts/fruits-and-fruit-juices/1968/2 – expand the carbohydrate section). Starch contains chains of glucose. Andrew Kim wrote an article (http://www.andrewkimblog.com/2012/12/are-starches-safe-part-2.html) how this could cause yeast overgrowth in the gut, and as I wrote, starches seem to give me more gas than sugar.
The way I eat supports “healthy” body fat levels. My two lower abs have disappeared, and I’m fine with that. Some people aren’t.
Orange juice concentrate may be an even more “eat for heat” food than juice not from concentrate especially if you don’t add lots of water. I just follow Roddy’s recommendation on getting it not from concentrate. Read the labels. I personally avoid HFCS, Splenda, Aspartame, but haven’t researched it thoroughly.January 5, 2014 at 10:11 pm #14529
@Dutchie, try me on Facebook for PM. It’s easier for me to respond to FB messages than emails on the go.January 9, 2014 at 6:11 pm #14598DutchieParticipant
@Scott_Schlegel What’s your Facebook,bc I find many people with the same name on there.:)January 10, 2014 at 2:11 pm #14600January 11, 2014 at 2:10 am #14620blurgParticipant
It makes me very angry to see a picture of a woman that muscular and with that low in body fat held up as someone that has a body type that is not hard to achieve. I have never met a woman, even those blessed with athletic builds and work out a lot, that look like that (not that they would want to).January 11, 2014 at 11:02 am #14622fuckyeahsugarParticipant
It is unfortunate for you to feel the need to insult someone who can not defend themselves. I like to call this “talking shit.”
Perhaps you should take a step backwards and evaluate your jealousy.January 11, 2014 at 11:29 am #14623metabolizerParticipant
What picture is being referred to?January 11, 2014 at 10:21 pm #14634neeny meenyParticipant
metabolizer – see post #14464
blurg – immediately above that photo were the words “Of course, she trains very hard to obtain this type of physique.” So, not sure how you think it is being presented as “not hard to achieve”.January 13, 2014 at 2:46 am #14642blurgParticipant
The gist that I got from Matt in response to Dutchie is that is that if you are a woman and you eat over 3,000 calories there is no reason to fear fat. I don’t see any point to his post other than to say ” you too can be like this” otherwise WTF? Why even mention this woman who eats 10,000 calories and work out a lot if she can’t represent even 1% of the women out there. Dutchie had a very extremely valid point in that if a woman consume over 3,000 calories a day she is going to likely going to have a high body fat percentage. But Matt had to chime in that that doesn’t have to be the case and that it was a generalization. So yeah, I’m confused. If it so within reach to consume over 3,000 calories and not be fat then why post her photo? Every time I see a woman on this site it is either – see you can be, or should be, or could be like her only if you could have a fast metabolism: or if your metabolism is low you are going to look like this……
To fuckyeahsugar: my critique was to Matt who posted the woman picture not to the woman in the picture;. I am tired of women’s images being posted to represent what to not look like or what you should look like. My point was that, that woman in the photo is not realistic for anyone I know nor should it have to be. I do not consider her unattractive but I’m certainly not jealous. Now, the women that I’m am within 7 years of age of that have bodies that I am jealous of would include Jennifer Aniston, Tina Fey, Sharon Stone and Cate Blanchett. I have never been jealous of a woman who can compete in a body building competition in how they look – I would only be jealous a bit in how much time they have to spend building their physique and their dedication. Again, I am not saying the woman in the photo is unattractive but she doesn’t have a body I would try to have, even if I could – but since her photo was posted I feel like Matt was saying “See – you could look like this too” to which my response is “Bullshit” and “I don’t want to anyway”.
For some spending a lot of time working out is not something that is hard to do or is hard to do – you just need to prioritize. In media, including blogs or forums like here, it is sometimes a given that you need to work out ________ times a week for ______ amount of time or you are just not prioritizing enough. I just don’t understand Matt posting about her I guess.January 13, 2014 at 3:02 am #14643dsoheiParticipant
well blurg, you certainly have a lot of emotional outrage at this. a lot of assumptions, beliefs, etc. i think maybe you have to get clear with yourself on a shitload of concepts.
while you may not like or enjoy exercise as it is commonly portrayed i.e. “bodybuilding”, it’s true that active full range movement patterns and resistance is required for good health. you can be thin and old and not be able to do a full bodyweight squat, get off the toilet seat without your hands helping you, slip easily on wet sidewalks, hurt your back reaching for something… all of this is basic movements. the girl in the picture obviously takes it to an advanced level that took years of dedication and luck and skill.
look like tina fey if you want, its probably easy for tina fey – a lot of ENJOYABLE activity – writing, acting (acting classes and training burn tons of calories) playing with her kid, running around new york, maybe a few yoga classes from a private trainer. are you tina fey or cate blanchett? no, you’re not. you don’t have the resources.
wanting to look like them is just as ridiculous as NOT wanting to look like the girl in the picture.
why dont you focus on being a healthy and STRONG and resilient version of YOU, which would include being able to do some real pull ups.
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